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4 minutes ago, Quietguy said:

He's looking rough there! 

:biggrin: This guy is serious. 

We had our prime minister do the same last night. I guess the only difference is that ours is sane, wants the best for our citizens,  and I trust him.

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We have an address by Boris in 9 minutes, rumour has it we are gonna be in Lock Down :rolleye0012:

 

Edit...  we in the UK are now basically on Lock Down :(

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16 minutes ago, Cherjam said:

lock down in the UK, they don't say the word in order not to cause panic

 

Hopefully  Nicola Turdgeon will sort your lot 'up the road' as not to panic you :biggrin:

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Still a tad vague what qualifies as essential, in terms of work?

I supply packaging for the pharma and food industries therefore would class this as essential, as these items can't be sold without appropriate packaging, however is it still classed as essential. I would have said yes, but no clarity. What about plumbers, electrician and boiler repair engineers, are these essential. If your boiler breaks down and no heat for the house, then also yes, but no clarity.

And then on the more trial things, will supermarkets still be selling things like alcohol and cigarettes? I can get by without, especially the beer as don't really drink that much, but others, especially as bars are closed, may believe that having a beer or glass of wine at the weekend is an essential part of life. Especially our NHS workers, who will most certainly deserve a wind down glass of wine a tough shift. Again no real clarity on this. As for review in 3 weeks - my arse, this will be 3 months minimum.

On another note, I think I read somewhere the Mr.Trump is already considering returning to normal after 15 days, as one of his advisory "experts" reckons that the overall cost would be more damaging than the death toll if current measures prevailed. Can any of our American friends confirm this, or is it just whispers.

 

 

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21 minutes ago, duke007 said:

Hopefully  Nicola Turdgeon will sort your lot 'up the road' as not to panic you :biggrin:

I hope that was a spelling mistake, as for the First Minister of Scotland, she has been immense through this,  A stateswoman of the highest order

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22 minutes ago, ciobha said:

On another note, I think I read somewhere the Mr.Trump is already considering returning to normal after 15 days, as one of his advisory "experts" reckons that the overall cost would be more damaging than the death toll if current measures prevailed. Can any of our American friends confirm this, or is it just whispers.

The Donald just had a press conference. He was talking about the future when things reopen. He said it would be sooner than a lot think but gave no date. But he says lots of stupid untrue things at these press conferences. 

He was again touting the malaria drug hydroxychloroquine along with azithromycin (generic Zithromax) taken at the same time as a possible help for the very sick. Doctor Fauci was not at the press conference. He usually steps in later and gives a more realistic view of whatever drug Doctor Trump says is going to be the next great thing. But Fauci was recently quoted  in an article saying in regard to Trump "I can't jump in front of the microphone and push him down." Reportedly Trump is growing a bit tired of Fauci. So we unfortunately maybe losing that voice of reason.

  https://news.yahoo.com/trump-reportedly-getting-frustrated-dr-142831198.html

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Yeah that pretty much sums up what I read. The truth is that if Trump does go ahead and reopen everything or most things well ahead of when it is safe to do so, other countries, including the UK will probably follow for fear of falling further behind in terms of their economy. Much as this lockdown/restrictions are pain in the ass, I am willing to go along for as long as it takes to make sure as many people as is possible can survive. There are going to be deaths, absolutely no doubt, but if they can be limited then that is good. Sadly some governments will view the old and sick as collateral damage and get back to business.

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Well we are locked down in the UK

I wonder how you feel.

This is real big time, no jokes , no this just a flu, no I am going on holiday whatever may.

Now you not even allowed out your house.

The question is not will we conquer the virus of course we will, but affect is this being in your home, especially if like me you live on your own, going to have both on your health and your state of mind.

You have 14 days to wait to see if you get the symptoms. Then one might feel a better.

I had to go and pick my meds up at the pharmacy today, even though I am in the high risk category, they could not deliver, so I queued outside for 30 mins, woman appears red eyed and coughing, I ask her why she was out, she said ‘I need meds to help me’. I thought great come and infect others.

The pharmacy had taken their phone off the hook, and of course left out my injection. Bloody wonderful.

So a bit of a rant from me.

I just feel, sad, worried and lost. But sure I will make it.

Final thought all this is being done to help the elderly as they are at risk, but Italy are having now to put young people at head of the queue and make the hard decision to let the old pass on.

Also, Boris is showing leadership qualities I did not think he had – well done to him


 

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6 minutes ago, ciobha said:

Yeah that pretty much sums up what I read. The truth is that if Trump does go ahead and reopen everything or most things well ahead of when it is safe to do so, other countries, including the UK will probably follow for fear of falling further behind in terms of their economy. Much as this lockdown/restrictions are pain in the ass, I am willing to go along for as long as it takes to make sure as many people as is possible can survive. There are going to be deaths, absolutely no doubt, but if they can be limited then that is good. Sadly some governments will view the old and sick as collateral damage and get back to business.

There seems to be more numbers everyday that it's not just the old. If hospitals get overwhelmed there are going to be a lot of deaths. The US numbers, now that we are actually starting to test a lot of people, will spike over the coming weeks. At this point days 15 days is likely a ridiculous time frame. I think a lot of these early reopen proponents don't really understand what is going to happen to the health care system. But just my opinion.

Right wing Fox News has been having an occasional guest on that suggests we should have never shut down the economy. Who knows what out commander and dumb ass will do.

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3 minutes ago, Annat said:

Also, Boris is showing leadership qualities I did not think he had – well done to him

I'm not in the UK but I think Boris like Trump's government is a month or so behind the curve. But better late than never I guess.

I'm watching a replay of Trump's news conference AND HE DID SAY they will reevaluate in 15 days. Be interesting to see if we even have a case peak in 15 days. 

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59 minutes ago, Annat said:

Also, Boris is showing leadership qualities I did not think he had – well done to him

Right. Do you honestly think these actions will help stop the spreading?

59 minutes ago, xyzzy said:

If hospitals get overwhelmed there are going to be a lot of deaths. The US numbers, now that we are actually starting to test a lot of people, will spike over the coming weeks. At this point days 15 days is likely a ridiculous time frame. I think a lot of these early reopen proponents don't really understand what is going to happen to the health care system. But just my opinion.

Right wing Fox News has been having an occasional guest on that suggests we should have never shut down the economy. Who knows what out commander and dumb ass will do.

Heres piece worth reading: https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-ever-away-heres-one-094824995.html

51 minutes ago, xyzzy said:

Be interesting to see if we even have a case peak in 15 days. 

Italy had 621 death the last 24 hours. 621!  64 000 infected total.  Spain is expected to be the next hotspot.

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Maybe herd immunity is a way out of this ... the virus is going nowhere otherwise . If the economy goes down the pan life wont be worth living anyway and civil disorder will follow... ( in the UK)

I think in three or four weeks they will relax the rules as in secret they probably want all the under 50s to catch it and hope it burns out( this was the  original plan).... 

 

 

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36 minutes ago, Tomcat said:

Maybe herd immunity is a way out of this ... the virus is going nowhere otherwise . If the economy goes down the pan life wont be worth living anyway and civil disorder will follow... ( in the UK)

I think in three or four weeks they will relax the rules as in secret they probably want all the under 50s to catch it and hope it burns out( this was the  original plan).... 

Very good post, tc, I fully agree.

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On 3/22/2020 at 12:34 PM, Pdoggg said:

Here In Pattaya it's pretty easy to buy gloves at most 7/11s.

You can also order from Lazada, an Amazon type business that is quite popular in Thailand.  What's nice is if you want you can pay COD (cash on delivery).  There are other payment options as well.  They also make it easy for you to sign up.

Yesterday I ordered 500 (not sure pairs or pieces) but the vendor was in China so the delivery date is in April.

Today I ordered 300 pieces (150 pairs) from Thailand which should arrive in a few days.

The one's in the 7/11 are cheap enough but the online ones are so really cheap.

For my purposes, one use and throwaway, I doubt quality matters much.

If for some reason they are not delivered, since it is COD, I don't have to worry about refunds. I'll post a link but not really sure if my link will bring you to the product.

 

The gloves using this link just arrived, quick 2 day delivery.  It was 129 baht total (99 +30 shipping) for three bags of 100 gloves each.  300 gloves for 129 baht.

These gloves are clearly not the quality nor the comfort as the ones I bought in 7/11 but are less than half the price.  More difficult to put on and even ripped one of the glove fingers.  But unlike condoms, a slightly ripped glove is not a big deal IMO, if you are just pushing a few button and opening a few doors and then throwing away after a few minutes .  I think I will use these gloves for very short trips, like to my 7/11 and the more expensive gloves for longer trips. I like the idea that for less than 50 satang I can push some elevator buttons, open some doors etc. and throw away after my 10 minute trip.

I bought two different brands at 7/11 and Family Mart. I see lots of masks on the street but don't see gloves.

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21 hours ago, Sustra4 said:

"And those who return home or leave the area will be arrested and imprisoned for 14 days because of violating and telling the infection to spread again.".....

I have this message regarding Pattaya...is it true?...can anybody confirm?

State of Emergency to be declared on Thursday, including a 'request' not to return home, and fines for non-compliance if violating quarantine or self isolation. 

Nothing about imprisonment, though I guess if people are found to have symptoms of coronavirus they are likely to be put into quarantine for 14 days, which could be interpreted as imprisonment.

 

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The conversation is starting as to whether the "cure" in its current form is going to worse than the disease itself.  I cannot answer that question.  Also if we are looking at this as a war, whats the acceptable causality rate?  Should that type of question even be asked at this time?

We just got our schedules for April and there is no flying to be had, well a little.  I might work 4 or 5 days in April but will get pain more than that as we have a contractual minimum. The minimums are not that much to be honest but its better than nothing or a little.

When i start getting down I just put throw on youtube and watch any part of a documentary about the siege of Leningrad during WW II.......talk about degradation!!!!

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11 minutes ago, ArchieBunker said:

The conversation is starting as to whether the "cure" in its current form is going to worse than the disease itself.  I cannot answer that question.  Also if we are looking at this as a war, whats the acceptable causality rate?  Should that type of question even be asked at this time?

We just got our schedules for April and there is no flying to be had, well a little.  I might work 4 or 5 days in April but will get pain more than that as we have a contractual minimum. The minimums are not that much to be honest but its better than nothing or a little.

When i start getting down I just put throw on youtube and watch any part of a documentary about the siege of Leningrad during WW II.......talk about degradation!!!!

I don’t know, Arch. From my perspective, it’s the political conservatives more concerned with corporate profits and the re-election of Trump next November who are beginning to use the talking point that the ‘cure may be worse than the disease.’ I think that is incredibly irresponsible and selfish. More deaths will occur, particularly those over 60 and those with compromised health, if we don’t drastically slow the infection rate. The situation is dire. Europe is being ravaged. Look at the death rates in Italy, Spain, etc. Britain just went on lockdown. It looks like we will see a spike in deaths in New York City in a week or two when their capacity to test and treat those afflicted will soon be overwhelmed. 

I suspect Trump’s strategy in dealing with this crisis is far more oriented toward political outcomes than with what’s best for long term public health and the economy.

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This forum has a small membership

So hope we can keep each informed if our health deteriorates.

May be just me but find it supportive to read all your comments and help (except for a few)

So I was pleased to here that Grunt is alive and well, many like him and me fall in the category of old and knackered

Yes I am alive and so far so good alive

a few old photos of pretty ladyboys to cheer your day up

 

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3 minutes ago, Annat said:

So hope we can keep each informed if our health deteriorates.

May be just me but find it supportive to read all your comments and help

The whole world more or less is in a similar predicament at the moment, unprecedented in our life time.  The member sitting in Pattaya, or anywhere in either of the hemispheres is sharing this, hopefully once off,  dreadful experience with everyone else.  So yes let’s give each other as much support as possible in these testing times. 

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2 hours ago, Sylvester said:

I don’t know, Arch. From my perspective, it’s the political conservatives more concerned with corporate profits and the re-election of Trump next November who are beginning to use the talking point that the ‘cure may be worse than the disease.’ I think that is incredibly irresponsible and selfish. More deaths will occur, particularly those over 60 and those with compromised health, if we don’t drastically slow the infection rate. The situation is dire. Europe is being ravaged. Look at the death rates in Italy, Spain, etc. Britain just went on lockdown. It looks like we will see a spike in deaths in New York City in a week or two when their capacity to test and treat those afflicted will soon be overwhelmed. 

I suspect Trump’s strategy in dealing with this crisis is far more oriented toward political outcomes than with what’s best for long term public health and the economy.

It comes down to if you believe in common sense or do you believe Trump at his word?

I'm sure there will be plenty of people still saying coronavirus is a democratic hoax while they're in the hospital waiting for ventilators and they'll still vote Trump anyways.

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So what can we do? Nothing for them and plenty for ourselves:

Wash hands, don't touch your nose/ face. Don't touch anything where another random person has touched in the last 3 days. That means mail, shopping carts, bus/ train hand railings, doors. Use gloves if absolutely necessary like with your mail, and then leave it alone for 3 days.

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Oh Bollocks, this whole episode is giving me the shits. So here goes, some photos of my GF I would not normally do this, but due to the circumstances!!!.

I hope she survives back in the village. I will help her out.

As you can see, there is nothing "naughty" about them. Just a great looking girl!.

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