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Ashoka Posted January 2, 2022 Share Posted January 2, 2022 Found this interesting.. answering a few questions I was curious about.. The vaccine still prevents against severe infection and death. If you have had Omicron.. the anitbodies protect against Delta If you had had Delta.. the antibodies DO NOT protect against Omicron. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted January 4, 2022 Author Share Posted January 4, 2022 IHU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka Posted January 4, 2022 Share Posted January 4, 2022 USA up to 1 million a day cases https://www.npr.org/2022/01/04/1070218466/1-million-us-covid-cases-omicron-surge Since we have 5 times Thai population.. 200k a day would not be unreasonable in Thailand in 2-3 weeks. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted January 5, 2022 Author Share Posted January 5, 2022 OMG, not even the royals are safe! I thought they had immunity. https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/swedish-king-queen-test-positive-covid-19-2022-01-04/ STOCKHOLM, Jan 4 (Reuters) - Sweden's King Carl XVI Gustaf and Queen Silvia have tested positive for COVID-19, the palace said in a statement on Tuesday, amid rising infections in the Nordic nation driven by the new Omicron variant of the virus. Sweden set a new daily record for COVID-19 cases, the most recent data from the health agency showed on Tuesday, registering 11,507 cases on Dec. 30. read more "The King and Queen, who are fully vaccinated with three injections, have mild symptoms and are feeling well, given the circumstances," the palace said in a statement. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke007 Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 France has found a I.H.U. variant now (Starts 6 minutes into this video) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bubba Posted January 5, 2022 Share Posted January 5, 2022 Fuck this! I'm off to watch some porn! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 15 minutes ago, Fenton said: The plot thickens. Not really surprising. You've probably heard of gays bashing other gay for being gay and wanting gay equal rights. They actually pay money to have SCOTUS overturns obergefell vs. hodges. Peter Thiel, Tim Cook and a few others come to mind. Tons of people do good stuff because they're intelligent but are then overtaken by political ideology. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 27 minutes ago, Fenton said: I'm sorry I was not aware of his sexual orientation. I do find another scientist interesting, A Nobel prize winner, who discovered/ identified the Aids virus. I'm not sure if its fake news or not. https://www.neweurope.eu/article/nobel-winning-scientist-says-covid-19-originated-in-wuhan-lab/ He has also commented since on the vaccines. No I didn't mean he was gay.. I just meant people create the stuff and then their political ideology doesn't support it and they come out against it after they shared it with the world already. As for covid lab theory.. we can't prove it beyond a reasonable doubt. However you should watch this video.. And then both scenarios are possible especially as there are more wet markets than wuhan labs so chances of that goes up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soiboy Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Robert Malone is not the inventor of mRNA vaccines. In the late 1980s he did some promising work as a student on the introduction of mRNA sequences into cells by encapsulating them in lipid particles so that they would retain their linear integrity instead of being immediately degraded by enzymatic activity before they could effect targeted protein production. Many people since then refined this basic approach. Malone has long been known for over three decades in science as one of those types whose personality has repeatedly made them their own worse enemy. That is why you don't hear his name except on dodgy news sources. https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2021/08/robert-malone-vaccine-inventor-vaccine-skeptic/619734/ https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-02483-w https://www.rwmalonemd.com/ Malone is a loon. But, hey, loons have made great contributions - Kary Mullis, for example, the inventor of polymerase chain reaction (PCR), had that particular breakthrough while tripping on acid but had idiotic views on many other things. https://elemental.medium.com/the-nobel-prize-winning-lsd-dropping-yet-problematic-scientist-who-invented-pcr-26b6678ccd46 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted January 6, 2022 Author Share Posted January 6, 2022 44 minutes ago, soiboy said: Robert Malone is not the inventor of mRNA vaccines. That Mickey Mouse news channel just stated he is. That lady news anchor is a very angry person , like Patel. I've yet to find a political spin on Wion but we're getting there going by whos been praising it. There's usually an agenda rooting for minorities, who they've been slagging off unfailingly prior, all of a sudden. Thanks for clearing this up,soiboy it didn't sound right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ashoka Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 13 hours ago, Fenton said: Sorry, I don't really accept the wet market theory, for the simple reason they are all over asia, not just China. The probability of it happening is most likely, but it has not happened since Hong Kong over 20 years ago. You would of thought this would of happened on a few occasions and the authorities would of banned wet markets for good. Just my take on this. As for authorities banning wet markets.. people don't always follow government rules. Look at smuggling, ivory sales, prostitution and such. And you'd be right that things have to come together in the right circumstance for it to be deadly as covid but it happens a lot more often than you think. AIDS and Ebola started that way. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke007 Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 I've just booked a week in Lanzarote from the 25th January after the easing of restrictions from Boris 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka Posted January 6, 2022 Share Posted January 6, 2022 Interesting.. it seems Omicron is not an offshoot of beta but seems it jumped into mice and back into humans 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustSumGai Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 I believe that guy knows his stuff and hits proper scientific sources, big on peer reviewed data, etc. I hope he's right, the damage done by the over reaction and misinformed LOS gov has been fatal to probably thousands of small businesses. Seems many either closed for good (while the big boys UPGRADED, hmmm). I believe the lockdown and restrictions have done more harm than the disease. Very sad. An end to all this soon would bring shouts of joy from the world. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rxpharm Posted January 7, 2022 Share Posted January 7, 2022 Trying to compare the Covid 19 pandemic with a 1978 Smallpox incident in Birmingham is not an equivalency. Smallpox vaccination was routine and required in the UK until 1971. It was then stopped as Smallpox was declared "eradicated" by the WHO in 1980 - although there are some countries that still have "pockets" of infection. A detailed description of the incident can be found in Wikipedia 1978 smallpox outbreak in the UK The photographer had her last vaccination in 1966, but did not receive the booster (recommended every 3 years). In the case of her mother who contracted Smallpox on September 7, 1978 she survived with minor symptoms having been vaccinated on August 24, 1978 (which was 4 days after her daughter was diagnosed). Apparently this was enough to boost the mother's immune system to protect her. In this case a significant % of the population had some some immunity to the smallpox virus - while in the case of Covid 19, most of the population had no immunity to the virus. This would reduce the transmissibility of Smallpox virus back then. However, if the same incident happened now, there would likely be a widespread epidemic until the vaccine could be produced in sufficient quantities. They keep 2 samples of smallpox viruses around just in case (at the CDC in the US and the State Research Center of Virology and Biotechnology in Russia). There are limited amounts of smallpox vaccine available. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustSumGai Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 check out this guy starting at 10:20. Thai Bound is stuck in Bkk. a day before he was set to fly back to UK after 3 weeks in LOS he came up positive and all they did was call him and tell him to stay in his room. Interesting stuff, he's a bit hoarse but otherwise not put out but the other info is good too as he reports in Pattaya at the girly bars it's not even the C team on, as in NOT good lookin birds. But at Nana the only ones all up and down the street so he reports if that's your thing you'll be happy. :) Believes they are overwhelmed (as to why they never got back to him). One girl reported ALL the girls at the bar have it, and other mates in Patters say it's all over the place "rippin thru Pattaya" so we shall soon see if the experts are right and it's weakened to almost bad cold level and giving immunity after a short bout of it. I believe Campbell is dead on. with World new cases at around 174% increase, deaths are at -7%. Should know soon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdoggg Posted January 8, 2022 Share Posted January 8, 2022 54 minutes ago, JustSumGai said: other mates in Patters say it's all over the place "rippin thru Pattaya" True. I know people who got it in the last 2 weeks. 54 minutes ago, JustSumGai said: we shall soon see if the experts are right and it's weakened to almost bad cold level and giving immunity after a short bout of it. I think most double vaxed people who also have a booster will not need the ICU though, much less enter hellfire populated by the Sodomites (this year). But what I think doesn't really matter much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustSumGai Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 well, a Nation article (if you can call the snippet short blurbs on it an article) quotes Vichaiyut Hospital respiratory specialist Dr Manoon Leechawengongs as saying....The new virus strain also causes milder symptoms and is more like a normal cold... It easily infects the upper respiratory tract but rarely leads to dangerous lung infections. The Omicron surge will likely result in widespread infection of both the vaccinated and unvaccinated, leading to herd immunity that brings the pandemic to end, Manoon said. Booster jabs may be unnecessary in the future because Omicron infection will work as a live attenuated vaccine that boosts the immunity more effectively than any vaccine, he added. Believe we'll see if this is true soon. If so it'll pretty much make the I of antivaxers a moot point . Currently a running updated daily data site on the New York Times has 14 day change stats of 195% RISE in new cases while at the same time a DROP of deaths at 6%. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-cases.html Not sure about only vaxed having that low impact PigDog, search for death stats worldwide. I could only find one in Texas USA, who'd previously had Covid, possibly Delta, and has serious underlying conditions. UK had less than 50 last I looked and their growth of new cases is like the USA and Australia. I would think the hysteria mongering media would be shouting DEATH loudly if it was possible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTel Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 The sooner they stop hyping up the Omicron fast spread the better as can be seen below. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustSumGai Posted January 9, 2022 Share Posted January 9, 2022 https://www.aljazeera.com/economy/2022/1/7/omicron-exposes-east-west-divide-on-living-with-covid Jayant Menon, a visiting senior fellow at the ISEAS-Yusof Ishak Institute in Singapore, told Al Jazeera “overreacting” to the virus could no longer be justified at this stage of the pandemic. “Yet, we continue to see responses from governments that cannot be justified in any cost-benefit sense, even allowing for a broad margin of error,” Menon said. Asia’s cautious stance stands in contrast with countries such as the US, the UK and Australia, where record-breaking case numbers are fueling perceptions that tightly controlling the variant is either practically impossible or not worth the economic and social costs. In South Africa, where the variant was first discovered, excess deaths during its Omicron wave peaked at less than one-fifth of the toll suffered during the country’s Beta variant-fuelled wave in January last year. Paul Glasziou, the director of the Institute for Evidence-Based Healthcare at Bond University in Australia, has estimated the variant to be about one-third as deadly as Delta for people who are unvaccinated and less deadly than the flu for the vaccinated. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted January 9, 2022 Author Share Posted January 9, 2022 1 hour ago, JustSumGai said: Asia’s cautious stance stands in contrast with countries such as the US, the UK and Australia, where record-breaking case numbers are fueling perceptions that tightly controlling the variant is either practically impossible or not worth the economic and social costs. Excellent piece. Covid is everywhere in Europe now and the herd community we’ve been aiming for is hopefully here. When Asia and Thailand will understand this is another question. Meanwhile Thailand is spraying their streets with disinfectant and locking people up. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustSumGai Posted January 10, 2022 Share Posted January 10, 2022 oh good the feet of the people will be safe from Covid :) what got me in that piece was... Although Omicron, which is believed to be 2-3 times more transmissible than Delta, has put pressure on hospitals in both countries, deaths and intensive care cases remain below previous peaks. In the UK, where the first Omicron case was discovered six weeks ago, the number of patients in mechanical ventilation beds is less than one-quarter of their January 2021 peak. In South Africa, where the variant was first discovered, excess deaths during its Omicron wave peaked at less than one-fifth of the toll suffered during the country’s Beta variant-fuelled wave in January last year. Paul Glasziou, the director of the Institute for Evidence-Based Healthcare at Bond University in Australia, has estimated the variant to be about one-third as deadly as Delta for people who are unvaccinated and less deadly than the flu for the vaccinated. I mean has NO ONE in gov there read this kind of thing???? did not know where to put this exactly but it's Covid related I think... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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