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This thread is a spin off from another thread (not in the Romscars Club) where BMs were praising an iconic Pattaya monger who by any measure is legendary already regardless of whether I induct him or not in the Hall of Legends.  Which I haven't because he is controversial in other regards...

That BM is a proven ladyboy monger, off-and-on ladyboy bar owner and he starred on a British TV show about ladyboys with another controversial BM legend.  The 2 of them (along with Jimbo) are the reason Pyongyang became the dominating ladyboy Board.  Problem is they are are also disliked by many of their peers for what one did as a PY mod and the other as a business borrower.   The Romscars and the Hall of Legends concepts are not just about excellence in mongering but also about CHIVALRY, so no Hall of Legends so far for them, but I could be swayed ...

Let's set aside the PY mod for now.   Does any LBR BM feel enough love for Scott to nominate him to the Hall of Legends?  If someone does and more BMs support, I will bite the bullet and induct Scott praise drawing and all.  But I am not there yet to nominate him myself even if , as I said, he obviously belongs in there.

Thanks

Rom 

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Rom , Rom, Rom,.... why do you continue to mention Kendo? you must be well aware that he is not the favourite of quite a few on this forum. Deservedly so. He's a pratt, no matter how many times he has been on T.V

Can't we forget all about the tittle-tattle merchant? 

you are correct about Jimbo though. a good man indeed.

As for Scott...never met him. It's a shame though that Annat isn't around any more, this thread would be buzzing.

My only thought about him is that any guy who wears T.shirts two sizes too small to show off his muscles has got to be a bit 'suspect'.

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1 hour ago, stoolpusher said:

I agree with BBG , 

 As for kendon't , I would like to nominate him for the biggest asshole award ( yes even bigger than me ) ,if you have such an award. 

Do you guys mean the second hand car dealer?. Only saw him once at a contest at KRUs. He was the MC, and loving it. Bleached hair and all!. I was looking for the white shoes and the gold dangler.

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I think Scott is one of the good ones.
Met him a few times for a chat and a beer (In the old Sensations, I didn't like the indoor bar).
He even invited my to a volleyball training at Jomtien on a dry day.
Wasn't dry at all and I was charged nil. I just left a tip for the girls.

Jimbo is a grumpy old fucker and I know him from his old Phuket days. Hard outer shell but soft like an oyster inside. I like him.
Kendo I met only a brief time on a taxi ride. Can't comment.

T.


 

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Regarding Scott : all that I know about this asshole is that he PMed me threats after I had  posted a nice pic of the whore and porn performer who was his girlfriend. May he disappear forever from the memory of the mongers.

Same for Kendo UK who banned me from the "sister forum" of PY on request of One True Saxon aka Fievel at PY. This guy used to bond ladyboys and then bargain discounts while ladyboys where bonded. He added one of them on a blacklist since she had stolen his Iphone. I had contacted her to try to know another version of the story. 

Jimbo is just a rough asshole. Where did you see a bar owner criticizing and reviewing his customers ? Only in PY and that is a pimp. You'd rather nominate in your legends the guy who created C&D and passed away before Jimbo took the management of the bar and lead it to Bankrupcy (as 2 other bars after C&D). 

You shouldn't twist yourself in knots about this fistfull of assholes. 2 of them had their fifteen minutes of fame once on TV. WTF ? Everyone except their family and a few ladyboys mongers forgot about it. They didn't and will never change the history of ladyboys mongering. So forget about them. You'd rather think of new legends or find unknown mongers to create their legends. I thought of the actual creator of C&D. I forgot where I read about him. You could find someone similar to KenW or Stealth007 and tell his story. There should be no legend for those who chose to go to the dark side. 

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58 minutes ago, Pulci Gorgon said:

 This guy used to bond ladyboys and then bargain discounts while ladyboys where bonded. 

That's totally baffled me....???? :blink:

Maybe the Tennants and Shiraz has set in. :search:

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I met Kendo one time at KRU and he seemed pretty cool to me. And Scott was at LBWVB event and same with him.

I don't know them that well.... but they both had balls to get up on TV and irreversabley declare their fondness for cockyKatoeys in third world jungles. Just that deserves a prize. 

 

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Good post The-Sith.  It captures my initial friendly feelings when I first met those 2 that led to the angst I now feel for not inducting them into the Hall of Legends which I would like to be as representative as possible for the sake of its credibility.

But other than The-Sith, this thread is now sailing too close to the wind and perhaps I should not have started it.  But my intention was precisely what we are seeing:  to acknowledge fellow mongers who are legends in their own right, but that I (Rom) don't think belong in my made-up Hall of Legends because they are too controversial for so many other fellow mongers.  A few months back I had given the example of The Apeman & Nigel who are even bigger legends but were prone to illegal shit and humiliating ladyboys, which disqualifies them for the Hall of Legends as I envision it.

Ethicswise it's never kosher to badmouth our peers, but at least we are doing it in the open and they can defend themselves if they wish.  Unlike at PY where they still have whole threads badmouthing me in Advanced Members where I was not allowed.  When I defended myself in Retarded Members they just hoovered me.

I have redrafted my OP to moderate my language and would suggest if at all possible BMs do likewise and keep it understated if/when they post ahead.

The one constructive thing that already came out of this trauma group therapy thread was P&G's suggestion to induct "the actual creator of C&D".  The name was Nick!  Nick Jackson!  He was a Patong beach pathbreaker with a remarkable story with a sad end.  He died! in regards to which the Hall of Legends is partial to departed mongers.  Nick is hereby nominated by me for the 2021 intake.  Anyone has anything to say about him ? ...  I have and it's all good.

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Nick was a good lad for a sure, a very amiable bloke. 

This pic and placard was on display in Cocktails & Dreams back in the day.  

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American guy Tom (left) was a real character too, ran his 'The Place to Stay' Guesthouse with military precision, there was a sheet of rules awaiting you on arrival :biggrin:, thankfully ladymen were not banned from his establishment. :spiteful:

 

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Nick Jackson is a great nomination.

Have many fond memories chatting with Nick over the years whether it was upstairs in his office at 'the place to stay' or being introduced to ladyboys in the old bar under tiger disco.

A man who recommended Eden club in Bangkok as a must do. :jig:

And amusingly said to me once

"Careful of the night monsters" 

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On 6/26/2021 at 6:42 PM, The-Sith said:

you mean Mark died?

No first hand knowledge,haven't been in BKK for over a decade (except the airport and visits to the embassy).
I read it on some Forum a while ago. I think it was Thaivisa, but not sure.
The website https://www.edenbangkok.com is offline too.

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Some 12 years ago, give or take two,Mark had a partner in his business, Francis.
Francis was eager to open a branch of the Eden Club in Pattaya.
Shortly afer opening it in Soi MK Metro he was found dead in his room.
Mark pulled out after Francis' death and the place were sold to an Englishman,  I believe, and renamed to Devils Den.
The new owner kept the Edens protocol; at least two ladies, the yellow line, and only one drink at the bar.

The Devils Den is still operational to my knowledge, but closed at the moment because, you might have guessed it, the Corona hysteria.

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1 hour ago, Duncan said:

The Devils Den is still operational to my knowledge, but closed at the moment because, you might have guessed it, the Corona hysteria.

The Devil's Den is no more

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On 6/28/2021 at 7:48 AM, Pdoggg said:

Any guesses as to the significance of the infamous Yellow Line?    :biggrin:

I do know the significance PD and it was a very good system imho :wink:, but I shall let someone else answer it :biggrin:

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On 6/28/2021 at 8:48 AM, Pdoggg said:

Any guesses as to the significance of the infamous Yellow Line?    :biggrin:

The Ladies who assenbled left of the yellow line were open for business at the rear entrance.  A friend told me. :rolleye0012:

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Reading this thread again, I am wondering what the OP means when he speaks of legends. I read about a supposed legend once in PY. A Chinese man had asked for tips and every one imagined he was lost in Bangkok. Meanwhile, He had reached Pattaya, barfined ladyboys and shot photos of the ladyboys wearing the Popular Army uniforms. That Chinese man was known under the name of Lengcj. The guy made another attempt to monger in Vietnam. He’d headed to Đảo Cát Bà and found no ladyboy. There is no ladyboy hanging in Hạ Long bay unless you manage to invite one from Hanoi. The guy remained as a «legend» although he turned up to be a neurotic with a strong pathological case.

 

So I don’t understand why you want to celebrate legends that are people who decided to be your ennemy in this virtual world. So far, you had been interesting with your cartoons since they seemed to come out on the spur of the moment and they surprised everyone. IMHO, you should keep on drawing your cartoons without thinking too much and keeping in mind how you find a situation funny.

 

Regarding supposed legends, have you ever made a cartoon with Lursarluces who shot so many ladyboys or Teppis (Helsinki) who admitted himself his adventures were those of a madman (see «diary of a madman» by Teppis Helsinki). Back to Nicholas Jackson, I had read about him a few years ago in a web page. As soon as you posted his name, I looked for the webpage and found nothing else than a couple of pages from which you copied and pasted the photo you posted above. (BTW here’s what was posted about Nick Jackson after he passed away : After moving to Phuket nearly 12 years ago, he opened the famed cabaret restaurant Cocktails & Dreams, then went on to run successful bars in the Tiger complex on Soi Bangla.

In recent years, Mr Jackson became better known on the island as “Captain Nick”, operating game-fishing charters off Phuket.) Although I looked for another page again and again, I had to come to this truth: the page had vanished from the net.


 

This brings me to an off topic idea.  About 3 weeks earlier, I had spent time looking for informations on ladyboys in a city in Annam and found nothing. Half a decade ago, I would have thought there is no ladyboy to find there, definitely. But my 6th sense told me I had to keep on searching. I remembered how I had found ladyboys in another city of Annam a few years ago as well as near a beach on an island in Cochinchina. I looked for te webpages with the precious information and actually found … nothing. I tried again using all kind of search engines and browsers but couldn’t find the source of information. (Thanks heaven, the info has been well anchored in my brain since I found it, verified and jotted down in one of my secret web pages).

I noticed that my searches were brought to porn pages (ie xnxx,com) or posts dealing with ladyboys in Bangkok or Pattaya. Neither PY nor google are involved in this result. I don’t know why well targeted information can no longer be found on the web. This is the breeding ground for false legends and fake information. At least, forums were supposed to bring the community to share true information in the past. That's all very well to cultivate legends, but it came to my mind that it becomes urgent to go back to the fundamentals and cultivate simple and clear information sharing too.

 

 

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