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Also woman that try to re arrange the seating order and try to shove you off your seat so she can sit with her extended family

 

Ive had that before TC and she was politely told to "get fucked"

 

I purposely get to airport early so I can get an aisle seat and I aint gonna give it up that easily :hi:

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Good stuff Willie. Couldn't agree more. 

most people don't agree with my rants Sam-are you feeling well?-55

 

Dont really agree about the seat on the airplane.  It goes back, what are they supposed to do be uncomfortable?

its like a domino effect tho innit? the first one who puts the seat back causes everyone else to do it...the first one is the inconsiderate prick.......if the guy in front does it-you more or less have to follow suit....i usually don't ....

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I disagree with putting the airline seats back, especially on a long flight. Even a slight recline can help make it easier to sleep.

 

What's much more rude is when the person puts the seat back during meal service. You don't have proper room for the tray then. Most airlines I've flown will ask the passenger to put the seat back up during meal service.

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the totally reclined seat thing usually bothers me more on busses. Especially when they spend the whole trip that way. NOW...I CARRY ON a small suitcase that fits END IN in the overheads. Some things I need to KNOW I'll have with me when I get into destination. I also carry a whackin big bag (this time a leather sport type bag) with 2 laptops, camera, power supplies, HD, Bodum coffee press, espresso, etc. Women have their big bags, some got baby bags. I'm gonna have MINE. Just wtf are do YOU think one is supposed to PUT in those overheads?

I'm with you about the general inconsiderate stuff...ppl standing in the stairway fiddling with cells, talkin with someone...them folks that KNOW they're gonna ride 5 stops on the skytrain that nail a spot right near the doorway making ME who is goin one or two stops move  In then OUT past a crowd later...

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Twitter's IPO was considered successful because institutional investors benefited.

 

Facebook's considered flawed because Facebook insiders benefited.

 

Seems Google's IPO was the only one that helped the little guy using the Dutch Auction method.

 

 

 

But the most prominent reason for the drastically different performance of Twitter's and Facebook’s public offerings has been identified as the former's adherence to the conventional IPO process and a respect for institutional investors, USA Today adds.

 

"Management at Twitter -- Dick Costolo in particular -- knew how to play ball with Wall Street

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most people don't agree with my rants Sam-are you feeling well?-55

 

its like a domino effect tho innit? the first one who puts the seat back causes everyone else to do it...the first one is the inconsiderate prick.......if the guy in front does it-you more or less have to follow suit....i usually don't ....

 

 

Just dont agree.  The seats go back for a reason and it is more comfotable that way some of the time.  You can blame the airlines for sticking so many seats in together but thats a different issue.  You know 90% + people pick the airline by PICE!!  In every survey I have seen, they ask would you pay more for more comfort i.e a bigger seat, more space people say NO.  You can argue the airlines are giving people what they want to an extent.  Now I know no one wants baggage fees and to be nickeled and dimed to death.

 

If youse want to go back to regulation, guess what??  Airlines will be like utilities and what kind of service do you get from them???  Also, flying was waaaaaay more expensive PRE regulation than POST regulation.

 

But as I said that might be a differet thread.

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Another rant to get the thread back on topic:  How about these assholes who walked around the city with these huge fucking backpacks.  They swing them around totally oblivious how they take out people.  I hate these jerkoffs on the BTS, especially.

 

Also on the BTS, the dickwit who leans all against the railing in the middle you know the one the OTHER PEOPLE are supposed to hang onto!!!!!

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Well, the prices out of North America to LOS just keep going up and up. It is really discouraging and makes me crazy. 

 

Not that long ago I could fly from eastern Canada to Bangkok for $1,200 CDN return (sometimes less) and the fare was a flex fare meaning you'd get 100% travel miles and could upgrade to business with the sufficient amount of bump up points. Now the price is double and the fares are "basic/steerage class" meaning you can't upgrade and you get 50% travel points. So currently you pay double and get considerably less value/service overall. AND the fucking flights are fucking FULL!!! The airlines have figured it out and have honed their greediness into to a fine science. They are all the same. No rebel among the bunch. Like gas retail companies. For the consumer I only see hard times for the foreseeable future. Sons-of-whores the lot of them. 

 

Now get this: When I book a ticket to Asia the change fee is a reasonable $50.00. I can accept and stomach this. However when I book a ticket to Europe (which I do every month or so) the change fee is a whopping $300.00!!! So if for any reason you need to delay your flight by a few hours or by a day they charge you $300.00 for the privilege. And that is even if the flights you want to switch to are wide open with tons of seats available. Absolutely highway robbery!! $300.00 to change your mind and even if you can do the switch effortlessly online and not engage another human being. Complete abuse.

 

Something else interesting to note. I am an Air Canada Million Mile Super Elite 100K Member and have been for years. This means Air Canada values me as one of their best customers and they keep telling me this over and over again, blab, blab, blab. In fact they even sent me a 7 inch plastic desk top model of a Boeing 777 to show their deep appreciation for my business. However when it comes to change fees, open and reasonable flexibility I am the same to them as the guy who buys the cheapest ticket to fly 300 miles every 5 years. They do not discriminate. They dislike me as much as him. Couldn't give a rat's ass. 

 

The problem is I do not have an alternative. And they know it. 

 

I work in an industry which I've always considered to be the meanest, hardest, ugliest, greediest, most back-stabbing there is. However, I think it is being trumped most handsomely by the airline industry. Where else can you spend so much money to get so little and be abused beyond comprehension? 

 

Hmmmmm, that's my rant. Thanks for listening.

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I agree with SS's post. While I don't fly as often as he does, I am an Elite 50k member. In the past I could get the occaisonal business class upgrade if they hadn't sold all the business class seats and I could do it with a lower priced economy fare. Now as SS has decribed it can only be done from a higher priced economy fare - but the kicker is now I have to pay an upgrade service fee to get the business class upgrade. It would cost an extra $750 CAD for a one way upgrade from Asia to Canada or Europe to Canada. I sent a letter to the CEO of Air Canada expressing my displeasure, and that they would still have been making money with the old system, as the economy seat would have been sold. Now with the service fee, it brings the price up to just slightly less than buying a business class ticket - so there is not much point in using the upgrade system.

 

I did get a reply back stating that "financial necessities" made changing this part of the frequent flyer program necessary. Seeing their reports for the 1st quarter of 2014, they are back in the black - while this is good for their bottom line, it's not so good for their frequent flyer customers.

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I have lived long enough to know that everything is cyclical (not unlike the markets) and there will be another airline challenge within the next 3 to 5 years to make the correction. People cannot sustain the prices and the industry's abuse. It is truly miserable. You pay so much money to be treated like shit, hahahaha!! It's really beyond absurd. 

 

However to be fair it is not the airline companies to be blamed completely. Fuel costs; government bullshit taxes; security costs; landing access fees; safety; airport upgrade taxes, it goes on and on and on. It's all fucked up.

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The cost of living in the west is ridiculous. One day we will pay (excuse the pun) the price for spending , borrowing, consuming more than we have.  Half of my salary goes straight to monthly bills, and that does not include a mortgage or a bloodsucking ex-wife like many of my friends have. This can't go on. Paccers?

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The cost of living in the west is ridiculous. 

  Half of my salary goes straight to monthly bills, and that does not include a mortgage or a bloodsucking ex-wife

 

  No kidding, in America don't forget to add in health care costs;  I stayed home all of 2013 and paid more than 20 grand trying to get this ol' body working right, dealing mostly with lower back and sleeping issues.  20 K, which includes my co-pays and  $554 monthly premiums.  This also included 2K to remove a melanoma growth, a 30-minute procedure, I just finished the payments on that one last week.

 

  Had the ex-wife thing also, from '95 until 2010,  but if your friends were Dads like I am that expense really goes to the kids, which is of course worth it for their sake.  Just sucks that the money has to go through someone you now hate, her name is written on the checks; uggghhh. For me that price fluctuated between 900 and 1400 a month; that went out BEFORE my own rent, food, clothes, other bills, etc.....outrageous. Since 2010 it's been college, which is even more; the bills literally never stop coming with kids, as I am sure Sam can relate to. 

 

It's amazing I ever saved enough to see Asia at all.

 

  Living in the west IS indeed a joke.......and as Sam alluded to, getting to and from the west is now a joke as well. Northwest [now defunct] used to take me from Boston to BKK for under a grand and usually with an upgrade every 3rd flight based on miles and the 100% bonus.  Now I am with United and they suck ass and it costs around 1800 for the same flight.

 

Add this all up, plus the fact my kids are now fully-grown adults and I am pretty much done with the west. My ticket to Asia this time is a one-way and I have no idea when I will be going back and certainly in no rush.

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The cost of living in the west is ridiculous. One day we will pay (excuse the pun) the price for spending , borrowing, consuming more than we have.  Half of my salary goes straight to monthly bills, and that does not include a mortgage or a bloodsucking ex-wife like many of my friends have. This can't go on. Paccers?

 

Despite the high cost of living.....

 

            ............it continues to be popular.       :hi:

 

Man has complained about living costs forever. Capitalism doesn't cope very well with continuous inflation but as Karl Marx so sagely observed, it can only work if there is a continuous cycle of boom & collapse. Seven, you just need to wait for the next major recession to bring prices within reach again. The only problem then will be if everyone loses their job there will be massive deflation, or worse, stagflation.

 

Whatever happens, we're stuck with the system & even a Socialist-style country like you live in Seven relies on the markets to improve living standards. And Socialist governments have no qualms about taxing the shit out of anybody who has succeeded to amass a fortune. I don't know the answer & many economists work on this very problem. It's not a perfect system but the alternative, a subsistence lifestyle, would prove even less popular with the electorate. Once people have experienced all the trappings a free market can provide, they will fight to keep them.

 

But I don't know how bad it is in Sweden, somehow the government has to keep all those refugees in the manner demanded by the UN Charter for Refugees & that enormous impost has to be found somewhere. You may want to consider emigrating. 

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  Had the ex-wife thing also, from '95 until 2010,  but if your friends were Dads like I am that expense really goes to the kids, 

Of course the kids should get alimony, but i have friends who married and divoreced without kids and also without a prenup and wife decided HALF , to quote Eddie Murphys RAW.

 

This is brilliant:

 

Despite the high cost of living.....

 

            ............it continues to be popular.       :hi:

 

 

Whatever happens, we're stuck with the system & even a Socialist-style country like you live in Seven relies on the markets to improve living standards. And Socialist governments have no qualms about taxing the shit out of anybody who has succeeded to amass a fortune. I don't know the answer & many economists work on this very problem. It's not a perfect system but the alternative, a subsistence lifestyle, would prove even less popular with the electorate. Once people have experienced all the trappings a free market can provide, they will fight to keep them.

 

But I don't know how bad it is in Sweden, somehow the government has to keep all those refugees in the manner demanded by the UN Charter for Refugees & that enormous impost has to be found somewhere. You may want to consider emigrating. 

Socialist or capitalist doesn't matter. We are living way over our assets. No country is immune to what happens in the stockmarkets in NY, London or Tokyo. 

There is nothing socialistic about my country anymore, Paccers. The conservatives have been in powers since 2006, but that'll most likely change in Septembers election.

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Well, the prices out of North America to LOS just keep going up and up. It is really discouraging and makes me crazy. 

 

Not that long ago I could fly from eastern Canada to Bangkok for $1,200 CDN return (sometimes less) and the fare was a flex fare meaning you'd get 100% travel miles and could upgrade to business with the sufficient amount of bump up points. Now the price is double and the fares are "basic/steerage class" meaning you can't upgrade and you get 50% travel points. So currently you pay double and get considerably less value/service overall. AND the fucking flights are fucking FULL!!! The airlines have figured it out and have honed their greediness into to a fine science. They are all the same. No rebel among the bunch. Like gas retail companies. For the consumer I only see hard times for the foreseeable future. Sons-of-whores the lot of them. 

 

Now get this: When I book a ticket to Asia the change fee is a reasonable $50.00. I can accept and stomach this. However when I book a ticket to Europe (which I do every month or so) the change fee is a whopping $300.00!!! So if for any reason you need to delay your flight by a few hours or by a day they charge you $300.00 for the privilege. And that is even if the flights you want to switch to are wide open with tons of seats available. Absolutely highway robbery!! $300.00 to change your mind and even if you can do the switch effortlessly online and not engage another human being. Complete abuse.

 

Something else interesting to note. I am an Air Canada Million Mile Super Elite 100K Member and have been for years. This means Air Canada values me as one of their best customers and they keep telling me this over and over again, blab, blab, blab. In fact they even sent me a 7 inch plastic desk top model of a Boeing 777 to show their deep appreciation for my business. However when it comes to change fees, open and reasonable flexibility I am the same to them as the guy who buys the cheapest ticket to fly 300 miles every 5 years. They do not discriminate. They dislike me as much as him. Couldn't give a rat's ass. 

 

The problem is I do not have an alternative. And they know it. 

 

I work in an industry which I've always considered to be the meanest, hardest, ugliest, greediest, most back-stabbing there is. However, I think it is being trumped most handsomely by the airline industry. Where else can you spend so much money to get so little and be abused beyond comprehension? 

 

Hmmmmm, that's my rant. Thanks for listening.

 

 

Try being a frontline employee!!!!!  I could write a fucking book......

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Arch knows the score for sure.....and yes, I agree with Sam, a tell-all book would maybe sell very well because anyone who flies these days is absolutely disgusted.   And it's only going to get worse before it gets better.

 

Which means we just have to stay in Thailand longer!  :hi:

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I agree with you, Lance....and trust me, even though I still feel that living in America is a joke, expense-wise, if I was wealthy enough I'd much prefer to live there. Fact is it has priced me right out of the bloody place! And lots of other expats have told me the same thing. Health care alone, with premiums and co-pays and other assorted nonsense costs a fortune.

 

Thailand is OK, it's super-cheap and has a lot of good points to it, but it's too freaking hot and the food is boring.

 

BB, look at the 5:45 wake-up as a blessing in disguise; at least you could enjoy the coolest part of the day!  :biggrin:

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