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  1. New LB twin Bar opened a short while back along from La Bamba.. one real cutie in there anyway last night and ill be going back to check it out Also another two bars near Soi 15 with 7 LBs .. called Silk Bar Also new LB bar near 69 Bar at back of the complex.
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  2. I had this drunken idiot coming on to a girl ( non P4P) I was with outside the Guess Bar a few years ago, despite her being very conservatively dressed and him being told by myself "she is an Accountant pal not a Hooker and so Not for Sale" he kept having a go, eventually he got the message after a while with a "you better Fuck Off mate" Funny thing was the poor girl was totally oblivious to what was going on as it was the first time she had visited this kind of establishment
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  3. Pin is stumbling drunk. When she bends down to refill a customer's Heineken, her hair dips into the beer. Her breath smells like menthols and fish sauce. She is shrieking advances in tortured English at any male who passes by. None of this is particularly odd in Sungai Golok, a gritty border town in Thailand. Pin is a 35-year-old sex worker in one of the city's countless open-air bars. Cooing at strangers and plying them with overpriced beer is part of her job. But nerves are extra raw tonight. The city is under attack. Again. One hour earlier, five bombs erupted in quick succession in various parts of the city. An innocent woman, killed by flying shrapnel, is sprawled in the street just a few blocks away. Soldiers have hastily draped a white sheet over her body. It covers all but her feet and a single manicured hand. Shopkeepers are yanking iron gates shut. Locals are hunkering indoors. Yet, in the city's red-light zone, the beer keeps flowing and the electro-pop keeps blaring. "I'm really scared," Pin says. "I'm also really drunk." You won't find Golok on the cover of any guidebook. It's a surreal sex destination that Thailand's tourism authorities don't like to talk about. It's a little bit Tijuana, a little bit Kabul. The city is located in Thailand's touristed south, sought out for its deluxe resorts and crystal-sand beaches. But few Westerners (or Thais for that matter) like to venture this far into the Thai-Malaysia borderlands — a region plagued by Southeast Asia's bloodiest insurgency. Everything that makes Thailand infamous is available in Golok: cheap booze, late nights, rented female company. But these parties just happen to be raging inside territory claimed by jihadis who pull off hundreds of bomb attacks each year. The jihadis are hell-bent on turning this region into an Islamic breakaway state. Since 2004, their war against the Buddhist nation of Thailand has tallied more than 6,200 dead. That's more conflict deaths in the last 10 years than in the Gaza Strip. And yet the tourists keep coming. Not from Europe or the United States but from Muslim-majority Malaysia just across the border. They are men escaping provinces where Islamic codes forbid booze and miniskirts. "When the Muslim guys get here, they drink hard," says Tip, a brawny 33-year-old woman who manages Pin and several other women at the same bar. She has the look of an enforcer: camouflage pants, wallet chain, forearms raked by scar tissue. Like many women on this strip, Tip has suffered from the attacks. She earned her scars right here, on the same strip, in a bombing several years back. For veterans of this city's sex trade, witnessing an attack is practically a rite of passage. "I just cleaned off the blood and brought out more beer," she says. "You have to get used to it." Pin — a slight woman in jean shorts — is still drowning her worries in beer. She executes a sloppy pirouette, trips, and plops into the laps of two male customers. The men look nearly comatose-drunk, oblivious to the bombings. Pin cracks open another Heineken and charges it to their tab. "Sorry, Pin usually doesn't misbehave. She's just scared," Tip says. "But we can't shut the bar every time there's an incident." "Very un-Islamic" Nightclub bombings are just another casualty in southern Thailand's guerrilla war, a conflict over land, power and religion. A woman strolls through the red-light district of Sungai Golok, a Thai city on the Malaysia border. Though largely unknown to Western tourists, a seedy party scene is raging in Thailand's deep south amid a violent Islamic insurgency. | (Courtesy GlobalPost) This is where Southeast Asia's Buddhist mainland, anchored by Thailand, merges uneasily into a long expanse of Muslim island nations. The conflict dates back to the early 20th century when Siam (now Thailand) conquered Patani, an Islamic sultanate. Its Muslim inhabitants were not thrilled to become subjects of a Buddhist kingdom. Their descendants have never quite assimilated into modern Thailand. Many feel their homeland is still run like a colony. Four out of five people in the contested region are Muslim. Yet Thai Buddhists hold almost all of the power. Obedience to the Thai state is enforced through never-ending martial law. The area is flooded with 60,000 armed security officers — about one for every 30 residents. Most don't speak the local language (Malay), don't follow the local faith (Islam), and don't hesitate to raid villages under dubious pretexts. Indignation has given rise to a shadowy network of jihadi cells with no unifying name or leader. In the war to reclaim their lost sultanate, the jihadis have rejected peaceful resistance in favor of extreme violence, often against civilians. They shoot monks, torch schools, and deploy roadside bombs. Their most sought-after prey: cops and soldiers, whom they call "Siamese pigs." But they will attack anyone linked to the Thai state, including teachers, bureaucrats, and Muslim collaborators. Also targeted are brothels, karaoke joints, and any place deemed an affront to Islamic values. The region's Muslim fighters are outraged at the spread of Thai sleaze, says Wan Kadir Che Man, an elder statesman of the insurgency. Now 73, he's retired from managing separatist groups. But he still maintains contact with active jihadis. "The [jihadis] say 'This is against Islam!' It's their duty to eliminate this," Wan Kadir says. "When you're Muslim, and you see other people in your area doing things against Islam, you should stop them." For Wan Kadir, a man tempered by a youth spent in the U.S., bombing brothels is a step too far. But he insists that Thailand must defer to Muslim culture by moving sordid venues into walled-off zones away from public view. Until that happens, he says, the nightclubs will continue to attract the wrath of hard-line jihadis. "For someone in the [Muslim villages] who just came back from Mecca ... this is very unusual," Wan Kadir says. "This is very un-Islamic." Abu Imad is a 55-year-old insurgency leader who claims he is actively ordering attacks. In his eyes, brothels are more than just a nuisance. They're a deliberate plot to pollute Muslim society. "The Thais want to destroy our young generation," says Abu Imad, who sits on the supreme council of the Patani United Liberation Organization, a separatist group founded in the late 1960s. "They use drugs and go to the prostitution house ... then they get HIV, go home and spread it to their wives." "Prostitution? No, no," he says. "This is not our culture. This is their culture." "We're not angels" The Marina Hotel dominates Golok's red-light scene. At $31 per night, it is the city's priciest attraction. That buys admission to a 15-story fortress of vice, with an in-house massage joint and two raucous nightclubs. There's even a ballroom where diners are treated to a middle-aged crooner in Tammy Faye makeup butchering love songs. A group wanders through a red-light district in Sungai Golok on the Thai-Malaysia border. Despite frequent jihadi attacks, including devastating car bombs, this party scene in Thailand attracts men from Muslim-majority Malaysia. | (Courtesy GlobalPost) The Marina Hotel is also a footnote in Asian terrorism history. In 2005, the insurgency's first-ever car bomb exploded here, destroying the ballroom and claiming five lives. The hotel has been bombed at least four times, most recently in 2011 when four Malaysian tourists were killed. And yet it's often packed. "You have to understand. We just want to be happy," says Eddy, a goateed Muslim dad who slips out of Malaysia to party at the Marina. "Our government bans nightlife. So we have to seek out happiness in Thailand." In the Malay tongue, Sungai Golok means "Sword River." A ribbon of neck-high water is all that separates the noise and squalor of Golok from Malaysia's most devout state, Kelantan, a sleepy backwater with 1.5 million people. The state is controlled by an all-Muslim political party advocating for strict Islamic laws. Forget about go-go bars; in Kelantan, cops can lock up unmarried women simply for making out. This is the sort of orthodoxy insurgents hope to enforce in Thailand's deep south if they ever emerge victorious. But many men living in Malaysia — namely Muslims and ethnic Chinese — seek an escape from this rigid society, at least for a weekend. Those with suspicious wives can even enter Thailand through back routes that don't require a passport stamp. "Yes, Islam says all this stuff is bad," Eddy says. "But we're not angels. Isn't it normal to like girls?" Like most male visitors to Golok, Eddy seems nonchalant about bombs potentially ruining his holiday. It's not like explosions are rare. The region, roughly the size of Connecticut, is hit by an average of 280 bombs per year, according to the independent organization Deep South Watch. In 2007, the jihadis inflicted 91 bomb deaths here — topping the number of U.S. and U.S.-led coalition bomb deaths that year in Afghanistan. Bombs have ripped through Golok's dance floors. They've exploded in karaoke joints and outside rent-by-the-hour hotels. But after multiple Malaysian tourist killings, the city's main red-light district is heavily defended. Closed-circuit cameras now scan every corner. Humvees rumble through every hour. Thai soldiers with M-16s stand guard outside neon-lit bars. It has become a Green Zone for drunken men on the prowl. The night ladies The Night Lady is a karaoke joint stranded on one of the city's rougher, second-tier party streets. The walls are painted Barbie pink. The squat toilet in back is accented by a disco ball twirling overhead. Kwanta Eakouan, a 26-year-old farmer, fires a pistol at a shooting range supervised by the Thai army. She belongs to an all-Buddhist volunteer militia that the government supplies with guns and bullets. She joined the militia after witnessing jihadis murder a car full of people. | (Courtesy GlobalPost) "We're open to everyone," says Bam, the bar's senior female employee. She is a twig-skinny woman with a ponytail and vigilant eyes. "It doesn't matter if you're a terrorist, a cop, or a soldier. We accept them all!" Ten years ago, Bam was a 20-year-old young woman seeking an escape from the rice fields. She came in search of a job indoors, away from the aching drudgery of field work and the skin-searing heat. She found it in a Golok dive bar more than 1,000 miles south of her village. Bam is now a 30-year-old sex worker with a head full of dark memories. She has taken shrapnel to the face. She has seen ambulances haul off the dead. "Once you have your second and third bombing," Bam says, "you start to get used to it." Most of the city's working women share Bam's backstory. The overwhelming majority migrate here from the rice-farming heartland in Thailand's north and northeast. "You don't have to force girls to come work here. Everyone likes money," Bam says. "People can say my dignity is more important. ... Well, can I buy food with dignity? Or do they take cash?" Bam's job requires daily binge drinking and sleeping with strangers. She witnesses the occasional patron-on-patron stabbing. Add to that the nagging fear of jihadi bombs. Yet Bam insists that, for Golok's working women, selling sex in an insurgency zone is often their least bad option in life. "The money's decent," she says. "It's more profitable than working in Bangkok." Men flocking to Thailand's high-profile red-light zones — in Bangkok and in coastal Pattaya, a notorious sleazefest — are fickle. They're from faraway places like Australia, Russia, or Japan. Their numbers ebb when the global economy slumps or Thailand suffers through a military coup. But the Malaysian guys are consistent, Bam says. They're always just a river crossing away, and so nightlife-starved that they'll wade into an insurgency for beer and sex. "Even if I found out a customer was a terrorist, I wouldn't say anything," Bam says. "I'm here to make friends. Not enemies." Coyote dancers Roughly 24 hours have passed since Golok and its surrounding districts came under attack. Authorities have tallied the carnage: more than 20 bombs, most of them small, targeting schools, markets, and shops. Baem, 30, downs a glass of Heineken at a red-light district karaoke bar in Sungai Golok. As a bar employee, she is required to drink, flirt and go home with paying customers. Baem has also witnessed multiple jihadi bombings, one of which raked her face with shrapnel. | (Courtesy GlobalPost) Pin, looking hungover, is back out on the strip. A blast-resistant military vehicle is idling on a nearby curb. The same model, a South African-made REVA, is also popular with the Iraqi army. Baby-faced troops with assault rifles are posted in the shadows. If the jihadis intended to scare away partygoers, they failed. City workers have yet to scrub the bomb char off the pavement. But the men who love Golok are undeterred. Most are drifting toward the Marina's upstairs disco. A doorman kindly encourages all guests to deposit handguns in lockers by the entrance. Inside, there's a stage of "coyote" dancers, Thai women in bikinis gyrating to electro-dance music cranked to gut-quivering volume. (The term "coyote" dancers draws from the U.S. film Coyote Ugly about women dancing sexily on New York City bar tops.) Everyone entering the disco is accosted by a Thai aunty in a lilac pantsuit. She cups her hand to customers' ears and screams instructions: Pick your favorite coyote girl, buy her lots of alcohol, and give aunty a tip. She recommends a 20-year-old, nicknamed Benz, who has a Samsung Galaxy 3 wedged into her bikini bottoms. Aunty boasts that she's imported all the girls from Khon Kaen, a farming province in the far north. "Khon Kaen girls are light skinned and sexy!" she shrieks. "Everyone knows that!" Many of the customers are middle-aged men behaving like boys on spring break. They're pawing at dancers' tights. One guy keeps drunkenly ashing a cigarette in his friend's beer. Jihadis once managed to plant a small bomb behind the loudspeakers on this very floor. If they repeat their strike right now, it's possible these guys wouldn't notice. Downstairs, in the hotel's ballroom, the atmosphere is less abrasive. A plump female crooner belts out Celine Dion's "My Heart Will Go On." She appears to have applied an entire makeup aisle to her face. There are men here too. They're smoking, blowing nicotine storm clouds at the ceiling in between bites of mediocre Thai food. The only other entertainment is a wall-mounted TV running a local news program. The displayed image is startling: a dead woman, half covered in a sheet, under hazy fluorescent lamps. It's the woman who was killed last night just three blocks away. Like her attackers, she was Muslim. It wasn't a targeted hit, just the haphazard murder of a woman who passed by at the wrong time. Somehow, the bomb blast barely loosened her hijab. It was the shrapnel (possibly tiny nails, a jihadi favorite) that took her life. Her name was Sarika Mama. The news plays closed-circuit security footage of the bombing on a loop. Everyone in the ballroom can watch Sarika's killing — a blinding flash that flings her body out of the camera's right-hand frame. The Thai staff is staring at the screen. The male tourists look disinterested. The crooner on stage begins warbling through Eric Clapton's "Tears in Heaven."
    3 points
  4. It's been interesting reading posts from a few board members that Thailand is no longer the destination of choice, that it is finished and needs to be addressed with scathing indictment since they no longer "take care" of the lb oriented tourist or tourists in general Yes indeed, it is entirely all the fault of the Thais who force tourists such as these in the video below to visit LOS and behave in a way that they would not in their home country. http://youtu.be/NTSl_q_qUzw Right, so you now say that only a few tourists ever behave this way in LOS. Let me ask you how many of these tourists would you tolerate before your attitude would change if this was your own country? Ahh, but the reply is that it is your money and you should do as you please, and that you should be treated like a king. In actual fact the problem is on both sides. Before when the tourist numbers were lower, these kinds of instances were much less. Thais would overlook these, but now it has become much more common. So how many people who complain about LOS have actually said anything to these great high value tourists that they are free to behave in this manner? Probably very few. Of course it is much easier to blame the Thais, it is all their fault, they've become greedy, idiots, no longer interested in making tourists feel good about visiting Thailand. It is no small wonder that the attitudes of Thais have changed, looking at the incidents that have been occurring. So how long do you think it would take the Philippines to change if this started happening over there? With the strong influence of Catholicism, I think it would not take long. So then the answer is to visit another destination with lbs, like Columbia, Brazil, etc? The answer is not so simple, and may need to begin with a look in the mirror.
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  5. To be honest I think the problem began with the recession . The old style of tourist - British , European , American all but disappeared or at least their numbers dwindled . These were the people who drank in bars and spent their money in bars , its still that way just in lesser numbers . The tourists who replaced them - Russians , Indian's, Chinese etc just don't seem to have the same bar culture , that may or may not be a good thing but in resorts based solely on entertainment its gonna hit business . I believe in an ever shrinking market the Thai's have got greedy , prices have gone up instead of putting on offers , bill padding , rip offs and bad attitudes are all too common now , instead of encouraging people into bars many seem more content to make a fast buck and alienate them . Too many people believe we owe them a living . There have always been badly behaved drunks in Thailand the English lager lout or the American sailor has just been replaced with a clueless Russian , I don't believe that's the cause . That said I still love the place but its changing but then again in this world nothing stay's the same forever
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  6. Hard to tell from where we were standing but it did appear as if most if not all the staff got involved in the exposure.
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  7. .. also another new LB bar opened up at the back of the complex.. its the very first bar as you come up from the Soi Buk entrance.. didbt get a chance to check it out last night as i was rushing to the short time Hotel
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  8. Interesting read There's a raging Islamic insurgency in Thailand's strangest party town Welcome to the holy war in the city where Muslims indulge in sleaze forbidden back home 'Pin is stumbling drunk. When she bends down to refill a customer's Heineken, her hair dips into the beer. Her breath smells like menthols and fish sauce. She is shrieking advances in tortured English at any male who passes by.' http://theweek.com/article/index/273839/theres-a-raging-islamic-insurgency-in-thailands-strangest-party-town
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  9. All tourist resorts which have nighttime entertainment of any variety as their main attraction are, sadly, going to be open to an abundance of misbehaving, drunken louts, no matter what nationality they are. At first the pounds/euro/dollars, are enough for the locals to forget the bad behaviour that comes with tourists. A bit like the old story, they are so busy looking at the money in one hand, that they forget about the shit they have to clean up with the other. Think Benidorm, Tenerife etc in the early 80's. The locals were so overwhelmed with the influx of tourists, the bad behaviour was tolerated. Unfortunately, as numbers swelled the drunken misbehaviour increased dramatically, and so the locals got somewhat pissed off and their attitudes, understandably, changed for the worse. Now Thailand, Pattaya in particular is suffering the same fate, only with a different nationality of patronage in the main, and you could argue that a lot, if not most of these people are not getting drunk in the bars, rather from cheap booze sold in 7/11, and the locals are not getting the money in one hand to forget about the shit in the other. But, as Jimslim correctly points out, as numbers have dwindled within the bars and entertainment complexes, rather than introduce offers or attractions to regain some level of custom, as per the Spanish a few years back, they are more intent in going for the quick score. Rip off a farang or two, get a solid income for that one night, and see what tomorrow brings. To hell with the consequences and bad publicity, there will always be one tourist to rip off if things are quiet.
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  10. @Rxpharm Interesting read indeed , but it will take more then just a few drunk tourist to keep me away from any tourist destination...... First off all i dont worry to much with them , as long as they dont come and bother me or my girls then all is oke , but even if that happend i will not think for a split sec not to visit Thailand or The Phillippines or any other Asian country just because of that.... I will stop visiting a Asian country or part of it if that is a direct danger to my life , other wise they will still see my ass each year back again and agian , lol Greetz , Stealth
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  11. Jimslim, thanks for posting your opinion - while the recession and change in type of tourists also contributed, I do think that there has also been an increase in the number of badly behaved drunks as well, compared to say 7 to 10 years ago. Blaming it all solely on the Thais is a bit simplistic, and they are perhaps a victim of their own success in promoting tourism, and now getting the problems they have now. Last year Thailand had 22 million visitors, the Philippines had 5 million. What do you think would happen if the same number of tourists started visiting the Philippines? I seriously doubt that the current comments some make about the Philippines would still hold, especially if problems like the above video show start to become common place.
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  13. I don't know why but when some bloke is trying to undercut me I just look at him and they say sorry to the lady and me and go away......must be something in the water.
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  14. Yes I had this problem on my very first time to pattaya, was in peppermints on walking street, a cutey came over to talk to me, I bought her a drink, been chatting about 2 minutes and some biker guy muscled in, now im thinking ? This guy is twice my size and have my age, do I risk trying to take him on ? Hmm No ! I'm in a foreign country, this girl is not worth the risk of been beat up, thrown out the bar, and possible chance of been locked up and spending the rest of my vacation in some Thai cell, i payed my bill and left, went down to the beach club, and found a cutey there, pattaya is plentiful for GG and Ladyboys, now most people would think that was the cowards way out, i simply took the sensible way, and went on to enjoy my vacation, and discovered the sexual experience with a beautiful ladyboy
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  15. think of it as a compliment, if that doesn't work then thump'im :)
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  16. my 3rd trip i was in the pattaya beer garden eatting dinner with a good friend and 2 sexy GG freelancers got my attion after buying them a couple drinks we went off to play some pool a few doors down open beer bar we were drinking are beers one girl next to me at a time as we played the game and a guy came up and started hitting on one of my girls i guess a customer from before , she told him she was with a customer but he kept on. but when i stood up and bumped in to him to take a shot at the pool table he got the point leave or i mite bump him again. the 2 girls thought it was funny i stood up for them. lol
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  18. I would think the girls from the Issan factory whom chose to sell pussy or otherwise in this very dangerous border region are definitely the 'lesser lights' whom have previously tried their luck and fallen short in the more recognised cities/towns. Either that or they prefer the company of SE Asian men over farangs. Also I understand their is an island off the coast of Southern Thailand where the vast majority of the population are Muslims.......that must be a barrel of laughs.
    1 point
  19. I pull out my M9 and fully perforate the fucker...OK, OK, that's just the inner soiboy fantasizing... Actually, the only instance that came close to this was when it turned out there was a mix up on barfines - the girl had been barfined by me and some other guy by a mistaken communication between the girl and the cashier. The other guy had been there first, so the girl actually says to me, "Wait here. Just half hour." Needless to say I was annoyed, so just said, "No thanks. I go now." I paid my tab (but no barfine) and left. I recall that event as marking for the most part the beginning of the end of my patronage of the "big name" LB bars. The soiboy "wait?" The soiboy does not do "wait!" I can't really see it happening if your girl is in "civilian" dress and you are at a bar drinking and letting her visit some friends, unless the moron is both a moron and drunk. I can easily see it happening, though, if your girl is in full slut wear and you are out late at a disco, etc.
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  20. Don't you mean Lita's Bar is next to where Lita's Bar used to be....................
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  21. me too lefty...i always thought dylan overated,and cohen the opposite.....my favourite cohen song? depending on the day..."Thats no way to say goodbye" is currently my favourite.....
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  22. A member of Gen Y sent me this link. He says everybody is talking about it on Facebook. I didn't find anything new or surprising in it but I don't think I have ever heard it better put before. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16K6m3Ua2nw
    1 point
  23. For those of you not sure where Lita Bar and Soi BJ are located this should help. Soi BJ is about half way down Walking St on the left coming from Beach Road and walking towards Bali Hai. The bar is up Soi BJ about 50 meters on the left.
    1 point
  24. I've been following the story & it all appeared cut & dried until a recent update. Just prior to the plane going off the air, the pilot requested an "unusual route change". I don't know the significance of this but it will lead to speculation of another hi-jacking.... just saying.....
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  25. "Luk/Nuk" didn't go to Jimmy's Bar but now working at the middle bar on the front row of three on Rhompo. "Jam" still at Corner House but she tells me she now has "husband" and is off the market. ! Nearby is 'Mint Bar" with 2 or 3 LB's including Dao late of "Sally/Roadhouse" bar. (pic). Still a couple at "Piss Bar" and one spotted at "You Twat (2) Bar. !!!!!
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  26. Hang on there a minute PD 2 beers does not make this chappie mao mak mak. I managed to make it home safely thanks to my able assistant. Yes it was some night..so there was another bell ring or two after I left it seems. You forgot to mention the guy who got all the girls to line up behind the bar and show their boobs for a 1000 B each.
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  27. Hmm ! Well it appears this discussion is becoming a bit heated !
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  28. My 2nd favorite song by the old master. His best song for my money was The Stranger Song. Maybe because it was the opening theme for a wonderfully underrated western, McCabe and Mrs Miller. Some people say Cohen is the Canadian version of Bob Dylan but I like to think of it as the other way around.
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  29. Dixon, just my view in reply to attending LB bars and non LB bars. I enjoy variety in my life as a whole, be that people, bars, music or sex. I personally feel to pigeonhole yourself to a "scene" is not my thing at all. This is one of the reasons I enjoy both the company and banter of this forum in particular. When on the ground I am happy to meet the guys here as I have found that unlike a lot of the other forum appointed experts on the scene, don't expect to get their cocks sucked by having to tell them just how great they are! I do enjoy and spend a lot of my time and money in LB bars but I will not ever only go to LB bar as that only means I am restricting my own experiences/fun which I would not be inclined to do. Cheers
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