Cowboy (aka "Apeman") & Naughty Nigel: LEGENDS but NOT quite as in "Romscars Hall of Legends"

[Rom]

At PY, they periodically try to ensnare my stealth memberships there by starting threads on topics they know I have unique insights into that I would be itching to post.  If I did post, then they could take a closer look at the account as to ascertain if it's dreaded old me based on editorial form and content.  As a result, I don't post at PY on the very topics on which I could contribute the most.

All this to say that they have had a thread running on "Ape man (sic) from ladyboyguide.com" and while I do NOT think that particular thread was started to trap me, it might as well have been as some years ago I also started a similar thread myself in response to a couple of BMs there speculating that I was the "Apeman" for writing on ladyboys with markers same as he had done in one of his ladyboyguide/ ladyboycock pictorials.   In that thread, I posted what I knew about "Apeman" who was so-called only by disapproving farangs online (at PY and other Boards).  The ladyboys called him "monkey man" but the man himself wanted to be called "Cowboy" as self-presented on his websites.  I also posted what I knew about his Nosferatu-looking sidekick "Nigel" who branded himself online as "Naughty Nigel."

My thread was promptly hoovered by PY's rootadmin himself because, at the time (2013?) "Apeman" had been an advertiser and I guess the rootadmin wanted to protect him and/or possibly regain his business.  Not much of a chance of that as this was also after "Apeman" had ran into trouble with the Thai police, which was to be expected as more than a few of his "co-stars" looked underage.  According to my expat source, the police apprehended his computer and "Apeman" immediately left Thailand not to be seen for a while.   I don't know when exactly this happened but the ladyboy websites stopped being updated around 2008 (a sister GG site "ExploitedAsianTeens" also ceased and another "AsianStreetMeat" carried on a while longer with different farang performers, possibly having been sold).  The ladyboy websites are still online as of this date 12 years later, which suggests the models were old enough and someone--likely the Apeman himself--is paying the domain renewal fees and collecting whatever revenue it generates despite the lack of updates.

As regards Nigel he skipped town even sooner than "Ape Man" after having done time in the monkey house for the same reason ladyboys often do (see my next post below).   Years later, a ladyboy told me that the word out on the street was that Nigel was HIV+ and insistent on unprotected sex and somebody decided to beat the shit out of him into practicing safe sex.   In 2010 (?) I may have seen Nigel in AC (bald-shaved mongers are only too ubiquitous these days).  But I am sure I saw Apeman around Pattaya 3 or 4 times in the mid-late 2000s, but always with a GG.  A couple sexpats who said they knew him and Nigel told me they were regular fun guys.

Has any BM here seen "Apeman" back in Thailand since the late 2000s ???

I know that no one has seen Nigel lately, because, according to Stickman BKK, even though he did return to Thailand ... he passed away in BKK in 2014 from "skin cancer" at the age of 53 (RIP Nigel).

Cowboy/Apeman & Nigel are ladyboy mongering LEGENDS in their own right, but they are NOT Romscars-EXCELLENT Legends because they mongered not with flair and empathy, but rather as farang racial supremacists branding their native partners as "Exploited Asian Teens" and "Asian Street Meat."  Plus they are not known to have minimally fraternized online with other ladyboy aficionados be it here at LBR or at any of the other ladyboy Boards.  In the case of Nigel, his alleged illicit activities and disregard for his unprotected sex partners lives alone disqualify him from the Hall of Legends regardless of any other considerations.  Having said that, they were still remarkable enough mongers that they are worthy of public acknowledgment here at The Romscars Club, as well at PY where "Ape Man"'s dedicated thread has zero factual information and went off-topic, which is what happens when knowledgeable, outspoken BMs are systematically excluded.  So if anyone wants to post any of this info there on my behalf please feel free to assist them.

This is what I know, but there must be more to their stories.  Please post here in this thread any further info/anecdotes/opinions you may know already or in the future on these 2 compelling characters.

Cheers and here's to Cowboy & Nigel being their obnoxious selves:

[Woodie]

Have seen the Apeman in a few videos. Always turned them off. Not good to watch.

The bald headed one looks like he has been photoshopped. Head is too big for the unusual body shape

[strocube]

I find that ape man dude incredibly off-putting. Guy just always struck me as very creepy. Have never enjoyed his videos. Even when he is shagging a totally hot Ladyboy, his presence is so noxious, that I simply cannot watch. 

[LbDabbler]

Agreed. Nay has never looked better than she did in her video with him, but I can't watch it because yeesh.

[bumblebee]

Never met them as far as I know, but those photos particularly of the Apeman being back memories of early days checking out lb porn on the net.   Seeing the photo with S in it made me laugh as it reminded me of the story of how she stole some guy’s bag of golf clubs and tried to sell them on Beach road.

[Rom]

Siiighhhh!  I can tell from the way the thread is going I am not going to learn anything I don't already know about either of the 2 non-gentlemen legends.  I am especially interested in knowing whatever happened to Cowboy/Apeman?  Has he been back to Pattaya?  Surely our resident expats would have run into him...

In this post I would like to properly document what I hinted in my OP had happened to Nigel.  At PY I was constantly a victim of the vilest slander and insinuations,  but here at The Romscars Club there is no room for false testimonies and so I better document my hints with public information on Nigel.  Makes for entertaining reading, especially the Stickman bit.

I realize I am sailing a bit close to the wind as regards moderation's understandable preference for narcotics-free topics, but this is as far as I will go. Also out of respect for a dead man.  But if anyone is interested in the juicier bits, it's not hard to find them on the net.

rom

Published Highlights of Naughty Nigel's Demise

3 arrests: Jan. 2009, Sept. 2009, March 2010    source: Pattaya News

 

Second arrest with picture  source: Pattaya Today

 

Death Announcement and Stickman Eulogy in 2014 source Stickman Bangkok  June 22, 2014 

[Jimslim]

Anyone got a link for the movie pictured above with S (orange haired one ) and the group of LBs ? 

Asking for a friend aaaaaahem ! He's never seen it 

[Rom]

It's the Apeman 's turn..  Any info anyone ?

OK I will post what I know, which isn't much:

I've heard he is Italian, but his English accent sounds to me like a native speaker's !   Italian-American ?   But I am not a native English speaker.  Would any of our American BMs  (or other native English-speakers) pls give his opinion on his accent and possible nationality ?

https://xhamster.com/videos/performance-thai-ladyboy-in-gold-pants-4182103   Apeman starts babbling at the 2 minute mark before he starts cocksucking:   

https://xhamster.com/videos/ladyboy-thailand-carpark-3856882#mlrelated   same-same at around the 5'15'''  mark:

Other than that, ... I already mentioned that his porn sites got him in trouble with the Thai authorities and his computer was apprehended and the Apeman got out of Thailand.  Did he ever return?  I never again ran into him in Pattaya or any new clips with him on the net ...

He had also done a few group sex clips for another ladyboy site extremeladyboys.com that has also not been updated for a while and where he renamed himself "The Bear".  But the star of extremeladyboys.com was another farang porn actor that went by "Double O"  (a lesser legend) and who also took over from Nigel sodomizing GGs at AsianStreetMeat.com. 

To conclude on a wild note, some pics from an extremeladyboys clip that is a classic with "The Bear" and "Double O" alfresco with 3 ladyboys (including May the youthful mini-diva from the Penthouse Hotel go-go right after she got the bolt-ons and disappeared from the scene).   Gotta hand it to him: the Apeman knew how to PARTY ON !

R

[Pdoggg]

2 hours ago, Rom said:

Would any of our American BMs  (or other native English-speakers) pls give his opinion on his accent and possible nationality ?

Perhaps a native speaker; perhaps not.  Could be Mediterranean.  He doesn't look like a Yank though. 

[globetrotter1]

He definitely has an  Australian accent 

[Woodie]

I am 99% sure he is from Trumpland from what I could hear.

Does not sound like anyone from around here. Mind you I dont hang around looking at his videos. They just turn me off. A strange character!.

[The-Sith]

4 hours ago, Woodie said:

I am 99% sure he is from Trumpland from what I could hear.

Does not sound like anyone from around here. Mind you I dont hang around looking at his videos. They just turn me off. A strange character!.

Anyone you calls US "Trumpland" is probably not qualified to determine whether this is a Yank.

No, he does not have an American accent. That's for sure.

It sounds South African to me. This gets mixed up for a lot of other accents too..... maybe a Dingo. But to me sounds like SA.

 

 

[seven]

11 hours ago, globetrotter1 said:

He definitely has an  Australian accent 

Agreed. Or NZ or south african. I can't tell the difference between those languages. Not  American.

 The other guy in the pics is Finnish.

[Jimslim]

One LB I knew who did a few movies with him said he was Australian 

Then again if he was wary of covering his tracks that could have been a cover story 

One thing we do know for sure he was very hairy 

[Woodie]

3 hours ago, The-Sith said:

Anyone you calls US "Trumpland" is probably not qualified to determine whether this is a Yank.

No, he does not have an American accent. That's for sure.

It sounds South African to me. This gets mixed up for a lot of other accents too..... maybe a Dingo. But to me sounds like SA.

 

 

Well if you say so, you would know re Trumpland.

You definitely do not know a South African accent. And what is a dingo accent?. You are probably not qualified to determine that one.

[Pdoggg]

15 hours ago, Pdoggg said:

Could be Mediterranean

He reminds me of a guy I knew from Malta.

[globetrotter1]

I lived in London for a few years and got pretty good with picking out accents as I worked with loads of Kiwis,  South Africans, and Australians so I know the difference and  that guy definitely has an Aussie accent 

[Rom]

 

2 hours ago, seven said:

 (...)  The other guy [ Double O] in the pics is Finnish.

Are you sure 7 ?  I had heard he was DUTCH ...

Thanks gentlemen.  I appreciate your interest in helping identify Apeman's English accent.   To me he does sound Aussie but also sounds a lighter South African accent than Afrikaner.  NZ no idea.  Malta is also a possibility as they have a slow paced accent like Apeman speaks.  Malta would also explain the "Italian" attribution due to proximity.

Let's try it again with another clip where from 0:30-1:00 Apeman pretends to be on the phone and we can hear him pretty well.  The way he said "sooner" and "horny" sound Aussie to me.  Any Aussies in the house?   What do you think?  He speaks a little more from 2:30-3:00 and from 8:00-8:30 when he is sodomizing the sissy and howls like an American !!! ???

https://xhamster.com/videos/thai-ladyboy-zarah-3786411#mlrelated

I would like to add that I had to watch like 20 ladyboyguide/cock clips of the Apeman until I found this one because in all the others there was too much background music or TV and/or static from the camera microphone.   Those clips were done in the early 2000s when 90%+ of the farang-ladyboy action was concentrated in 6 or 7 bars in BKK and Pattaya and I remember seeing in the flesh ALL those 20 or so ladyboys in the clips and fucking at least half of them myself.   I even remember the real names of most of them (the Apeman gave them new ones).  My friends: the early 2000s , when those clips were shot, were the GLORY DAYS OF LADYBOYS when the scene was exploding on the ground and on the internet, but there were still not so many of us players.  Ladyboys numberswise, the scene peaked in the early 2010s but the growing numbers of dabblers and nouveau mongers took away that feeling of being part of an exclusive secret world of forbidden pleasures...

r

[The-Sith]

Instead of guessing what nation this guy is from, perhaps we should first settle whether this fur ball is human.

Great thread Rom. Old skool!

[Woodie]

7 hours ago, Jimslim said:

One LB I knew who did a few movies with him said he was Australian 

Then again if he was wary of covering his tracks that could have been a cover story 

One thing we do know for sure he was very hairy 

I have had another listen to it. It was a bit hard trying to decipher what he was saying, with all his mutterings of how sexy the girl is, but I do agree now that he is Australian. Accent wise anyway!.(I think he might have been a crossbreed from some experiment).

Definitely not Kiwi or South African. Having lived in NZ and Australia and spent time in most areas of the World, I think I have a grasp on most accents.

My first judgement was made when the volume was turned down. Anyway that's my spin on it.

[seven]

11 hours ago, Rom said:

Are you sure 7 ?  I had heard he was DUTCH ...

No, not 100%.   He was in many  LB-69 videos and I think I remember him talking in a few. Fins speaking english are easy to spot for me.

 

[Duncan]

On 7/9/2020 at 6:06 AM, Rom said:

It's the Apeman 's turn..  Any info anyone ?

OK I will post what I know, which isn't much:

I've heard he is Italian, but his English accent sounds to me like a native speaker's !   Italian-American ?   But I am not a native English speaker.  Would any of our American BMs  (or other native English-speakers) pls give his opinion on his accent and possible nationality ?

https://xhamster.com/videos/performance-thai-ladyboy-in-gold-pants-4182103   Apeman starts babbling at the 2 minute mark before he starts cocksucking:   

https://xhamster.com/videos/ladyboy-thailand-carpark-3856882#mlrelated   same-same at around the 5'15'''  mark:

 

In the first video there isn't the Ape man starring. Another hairy dude but not the Apeman. IMHO

[Rom]

I rest the case gentlemen.  I think we can ascertain Apeman is highly likely to be Australian based on his accent and word-of-mouth from a ladyboy.  I have been keeping an eye on the parallel PY thread, but there is nothing but unsubstantiated drivel.   If anyone ever finds out something else about Apeman or Nigel please post here... 

1 minute ago, Duncan said:

In the first video there isn't the Ape man starring. Another hairy dude but not the Apeman. IMHO

Hi Duncan.  The plot thickens... Is it possible he has a twin?   I am pretty confident it's the same one.  In his earliest videos he wore a Zorro mask rather than the cheap hairpiece.  And it sure looks AND SOUNDS like him.  Trust me: I have seen 20+ clips of him in the past 24 hours.

 

12 hours ago, The-Sith said:

(...)   Great thread Rom. Old skool!

Thanks The-Sith.  Old skool indeed.  That's me.  I started in the 1990s and I laugh at the self-declared PY pundits who act like they invented ladyboys just because they got advanced after being to Thailand much more recently and kissing a bar owner or two's asses.

I remember you (The-Sith) once reacting at PY to a TR post I made about me running into Noon(pink) from Cascades after like 10 years, so I will share a personal anecdote that involves her, me and the Apeman.

I met Noon at Cascades when she was 19 and I must have done something right as she fell for me, at least that's what she said and acted like crying like a baby when it was time to say goodbye.  I never gave her hopes or extra-cash, so I like to believe it was not an act.   When I met her she had already done the obligatory ladyboy-ladyboy.com debutante shoots, but I pleaded with her not to let herself get fucked by the Apeman and "loose face" (a paramount concern for Thais) on the Internet.   I described to her what the Apeman and Nigel looked like and she said she had not met them.  She was pleased by my concern and promised not to do XXX movies with any farangs (but me!).  She had already done one XXX for a jap studio (very good quality btw).

But sure enough a few months later, there was Noon on the internet being fucked by the Apeman.   I don't want to post here her pics being desecrated by that troglodyte, but if you must see them google "Nongsao" which is what the Apeman called her in the clip.  When I told Noon (by e-mails) that I had seen her, she responded she was tricked and begged me not to dump her.  I did not.  I saw her a couple more trips as my main lady and even took her to Patong, which was like taking coal to Kentucky... With time we drifted apart but not before she did another XXX with the Apeman.   It was another group sex clip with him, Daddy O and another ladyboy from the golden era;: "Aum" i think her name was.

Here are some pics of the happy pool table fuckers to liven up the thread:

 

[seven]

2 hours ago, Rom said:

Noon(pink) from Cascades after like 10 years, so I will share a personal anecdote that involves her, me and the Apeman.

Ah, she was one of the first lbs I saw on www. Never met her. Gorgeous!

Wonder what ever happened to her.

 

[JustSumGai]

it's interesting that he has such a SLIGHT accent.  Here in the USA the mid west is known for that, with news anchors being chosen for that "no" accent sound.  In that first clip, unless you have a for sure date I'd say it IS him but just years ON and weight gained AND he's dumped the silly wig (maybe in an attempt to obfucate) and is wearing a shirt as either he's got hip to the hair being a big turn off or again to hide.  He's working on a double chin too, i'd say years after his heyday.  Now, in another later clip he's wearing a t shirt but the weight is not there, and some sort of mask, so I see him morphing his style a bit.  Whatever you think of him he surely procured the hottest, sexiest and cute-ist ladyboys and femboys of the time.  That last one looks MOST uninterested, maybe she's thinking what to buy with the vid money.

I don't know about that first one, on the phone it sounds like him, but looking again don't seem as hairy.  If he goes onto fucking her that's his M.O. I don't recall ever seeing him get fucked by a ladyboy, but he sure as hell liked to suck on them a little then fuck them and cum on their face.