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A few years back I was chatting to a Canadian guy I worked with in Bkk and the subject of prostitution come up.  He said that while he had no problems indulging in Thailand, as it all seemed so natural, normal even, given we hung out on sukhumvit rd most weekends, he would never think of going with a hooker back home, his words being "there is so much sleaze associated with it"

 

I found myself agreeing with him in the sense that it would never cross my mind to go with one back home, perhaps because it's just not in your face and easily available.  Just wondering how many guys do dabble back home, or is it solely something you do it foreign parts and forget about as soon as you are on the plane back to reality.

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I tried a few hookers over the years, but they are pretty awful about 90% of the time.

 

  We have been spoiled by the ''girlfriend experience'' we are so used to in Thailand; not sure what it's like anywhere else but in the states that's pretty non-existent.  Most girls or ladyboys will even say no kissing as a general rule; for those of us who need a little bit of intimacy and foreplay before we can actually fuck that is an automatic turn-off.

 

  Plus they are clock-watchers and generally have a horrible attitude.

 

   Haven't done it around here for 10 or more years and even with the popularity of places like Craigslist or the Backpage website [basically Craigslist for adult-only stuff] I don't see it ever happening again.  If I really want sex I will get it in Thailand or some 3rd-world country or just have sex with a non-pro.

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Some years back, I went through a brief phase where I would frequent AMPs (Asian massage parlors) for a massage with a happy ending.

Did that for a while and then got kinda turned off. Then, my first ever ladyboy experience was here in SoCal. I must say, I got lucky; it was a great experience with a very sexy Thai ladyoy, GFE and everything:). Saw the same girl a handful of times after that. Saw one other tranny here, but that was so, so. Now I just spank it to online porn. I save the mongering for the LOS form now on.

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My first experiences were here in the US in the 80s in the legal brothels in Nevada. Before AIDS it was all bareback. Mustang Ranch, Chicken Ranch (still have the menu), Cherry Patch Ranch, etc when it didn't cost an arm and a leg. Now the prices are so crazy it would be cheaper to fly to Costa Rica for the weekend. I look at the TS in my state on eros.com occasionally. But the prices are high and everything likely requires a condom. So I'm just window shopping until I get back to Asia.   

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After my second sojourn to LOS last November and a date for my return unknown I decided to see if I could find any genuine Thai LB's on my return to Cape Town............I had previously phoned some advertised as Thai but all turned out to be ugly and from other parts of Asia........anyway this time around I found 4 and decided to give 3 a test run......4th did not appeal at all.

All advertised under the specials section of sextrader.co.za.good 

Sandi who works out of a flat on her own like her pic was expressionless but prepared to top and bottom.....p4p 1200 bah...femboy,think the hair is a wig.......good sex.Not GFE.

Keen Teacher her name and not prepared to give me any other name stayed in a flat with 2 gay guyz.......real LB with bolt on's great on the phone disappointing performance.....re u to big....which I am not.......good wank and prostate massage......definately not GFE experience.p4p  1800 baht per hour.

Joy works out of an upmarket house with about 6 others at any one time for a boss.....2 of the girls including Joy pre-op...others claim to be GG's but I suspect all 4 are post ops.

Joy was an absolute Joy........hit it off with great sex and real GFE..........p4p was 1800 Baht an hour ,overnight possible at about 5000 Baht an hour.

However she volunteered that she did not work Sundays and would like to see me for the day..........subsequently have been out to movies,disco's clubs and pubs....lots of fun because she looks 22....is actually 28......I am in my early 60's and had young guys congratulating me on my beautiful sexy partner thinking she is female.

All the girls tell people they are from Taiwan because they know if they say Thailand they could be LB's.

6 months later Joy still sleeps over once a week but things have gone a bit pear shaped.

The Brothel involved has only Thais and because of limited stay visas there will be an ongoing turn over..

Sorry about being long winded...but I guess you could say I do dabble at home :happy0065: 

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My dabbles at home are sometimes recorded on a thread called Vietnam LBs in the Rest of Asia section.

Back in the old days when I lived in Australia I hired hookers quite regularly. Mostly GGs but LBs - or trannies as they called themselves - whenever I could find them. If I remember correctly one or two of those are mentioned in VN LBs too.

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I always say it's funny how life works.

 

My loving and committed relationship of 22 years ended back in 2006. I expected my reaction to be one of sadness and possible depression, instead I experienced an almost euphoric sensation filled with excitment for what the future may hold coloured with a sense of unbounded freedom ( no slight on my ex I loved her deeply). 

 

I also noticed I had a burning desire to catch up, so to speak, or a feeling that although we'd loved each other and our relationship was a great experience I'd been missing out on other things, namely shagging other women ( maybe a case of the grass in always greener).

 

After the dust from the break up had settled I was laying in bed one night when I had somewhat of an epiphany. I sat up in bed and realised I had complete freedom, I no longer had to discuss any decision I made with anyone and I could shag anyone who'd let me. 

 

I got out of bed and grabbing a local newspaper I looked up the location of the nearest brothel. On arrival I was met with a lineup of 6 or 8 asian girls. I'd never been with an asian woman and had even commented to the ex that I didn't find them attractive. Now standing in front of me smiling in their lingerie and high heels they looked gorgeous. I chose a malaysian girl and soon I was balls deep in my first asian vagina.

 

The rest is history and for the next couple of years I went nuts, Thai's, Chinese, Vietnamese, Japanese you name it. I got the yellow fever and have only been interested in asian women/lb's since.

 

I shagged my way around a lot of the brothels in Sydney and got too close to one or two of the girls forming relationships with them outside work but I had one hell of a time.

 

Then came my first visit to Thailand in late 2007. I think what gets a lot of us in trouble over there is the prolonged contact and GFE you don't usually get in a brothel and we tend to forget where we are.

 

Then came Ladyboys. I've tried a few privately in Sydney but of course you can't compare the experience you get in Thailand so I haven't bothered for a while. They also tend to charge $250 to $300 per hour and for 3 of those I could get a return to Bangkok.

 

I've calmed down now and don't need sex like I used to. Now it's the occasional rub and tug when I get a bit of flesh hunger and for the rest of the time the internet keeps me happy.

 

I think my answer to the original question is yes I used to dabble heavily at home but now just occasionally.       

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After I discovered Ladyboys in Thailand and slept with a few I was hooked, naturally, like we all are.

 

 Back then I could only allow myself 3 or 4 weeks a year in the Kingdom because I held a real job; the other 48 weeks I was stuck around here and jonesing really bad for some LB tail.

 

   Went to a drag bar in Boston called Jacques, an institution in the theater district since the 60's and now filled with hookers and ''escorts", many Asian LB's included.

 

One Viet girl/boy looked really good to me; slim, cute face, girly voice, etc.....seemed to be the whole package.  We agreed on 200 bucks for an hour or so [expensive, but when you are desperate you will pay that] and went to my car outside. She said she had a place in Dorchester, about 5 miles from the club - my place was 45 - in kind of a rough section right near Southie, so we went there; we even stopped on the way to get some liquid refreshments.

 

     Well, we get to the apartment on the 2nd floor of some old tenement building and go inside;  her older brother is there and awake [it was about midnight] because his baby was crying! His wife also lived there and they had another baby; basically a family of four and this ladyboy hooker/brother living in one small room, which we quickly went into.

 

Super-embarrassed and didn't know WHAT to think at this point, but OK, maybe this is normal?

 

    By now I am ready to ditch and get the hell out of there; the good-looking LB I picked up at Jacques has removed her long, blonde wig [why??] and is now just a skinny Viet boy with make-up and no tits at all. We played around for a little while  -kissing and anal were not even a distant dream - and I finally said "fuck it" and left without even getting off, allowing her to keep the 200 bucks I had already handed over.

 

On the way out I passed the older brother and the crying baby; talk about freaking weird.

 

     That was 2000; haven't done it since.

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Another brief one.....

 

Way back in the  early 90's I saw a girl advertising in the back pages of a Boston trade paper; back then photos on ads were not common so you had to pretty much believe what their ad said.  This one [for a real lady] said something like "Blonde bombshell, sexy body, only 21, ", etc, etc....... and the best part, she lived in my same town!  Literally 10 minutes from my house, and I have always been a sucker for blondes.

 

  I called her, we worked it all out at $120 for an hour, and she described herself again very similar to the ad and told me she would wear something sexy, as in stockings and garters, lingerie, you know.....  so I drive to her house and knock on the door; I am met by a skanky mess with frizzy hair not even combed out, wearing an Iron Maiden t-shirt and black jeans.  Huh?

 

    She had 2 large dobermans, she said for protection, and the whole place reeked of dog and cigarette butts and it was a fookin' mess; like, you can't even take 10 minutes to pick this place up a little bit? I did some quick thinking and asked to use her bathroom; once I was in there I was looking in the mirror saying to myself "You can't go through with this", but I had to work up the courage to walk out and had to avoid getting eaten by 2 huge dogs.  I took out a 20 dollar bill, exited the bathroom and handed it to her as I walked by her,  said am insincere "sorry" and made a beeline for the front door, with her yelling expletives all the way.

 

  Best 20 bucks I ever spent.

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Way back in 1985, the first time I ever paid for any sex, was for a tranny hooker in San Francisco, (this would exactly mirror my first night ever in Bangkok 10 years later when I grabbed a ladyboy at the Blue Sky Bar in Patpong just hours after landing). In '85 I was young enough that paying for sex was out of the question with any girls, no need, there were pastures a'plenty.

 

But I had also spent the previous 10 years living in the conservative midwest US in medium sized cities with no outlet for my pervy notions & on a business trip to  SF I visited that city's legendary TG bar: The Black Rose. It was in the Tenderloin, a grim scary dive of a neighborhood then, but the Rose was a reasonably cool place to hang & connect with all sorts of transgendered whether on the game or not. 

 

"Kimberly" (not Kim!) was petite, young, & had pixieish short red hair & we went to her room in one of the many rundown SRO hotels that dotted the neighborhood. I was able to go back, or to L.A., occasionally in the next 4 years if business called.  I took a couple of long weekends there as well when I had some $$$ & went to the famous Finnochio's Female Impressionist Show (no hustling, all very old school night-clubby & the family who ran it for decades made a big deal how all the "girls" were "married" & had kids, etc,... I'm sure the families were the pics one gets when you buy a wallet. One filipina queen working there the night I went would never be mistaken for a Dad, she couldn't even walk straight).

 

Also in the 80s went to the Queen Mary when in L.A. but over in the Valley, that was quite some place: the front bar had the drag shows & tourists & the back bar was where the action was, totally buzzing with girls. It was funny how many recognizable famous TS porn stars would be here hustling as well as the local queens. It makes sense now that the Valley is ground zero for porn but back then it was a kick to see so many available name "stars" naming their price.  

 

In both SF/LA trips I began to navigate towards the Asians, it seemed to be mostly Filipinas, & in the 90's when I moved to the East coast I began a ltr with a filipina ladyboy. It was difficult since there were still a few bars to hang in then & I had to be careful that word didn't get around that I was pussyfootin'. (Word did) 

 

So I had 10 years of increasingly tg trade under my belt before I went to Thailand, but being surrounded by dozens of beautiful Asian ladyboys everywhere definitely sent me to another level, I almost never hit up a pro at home anymore I waited till the next trip, with only occasional lapses into local commerce.

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I've been a confirmed whore monger for at least 30 years now.

I got pretty burned out on the scene in Seattle at least 15 years ago, and now go up to Vancouver BC regularly to do my mongering. It's really sleazy up there on the Hastings strip, And I think I'm reaching the burnout point on this scene as well. Used to be, I could come up here (I'm writing this from my hotel room in downtown Vancouver) and the would be 30 or more girls working the Downtown lower East side at any one time.

Now, there are nothing but burned-out junkies, crackheads, and a few tranny's. I've never partaken of the tranny scene outside of Thailand, so that's never been on my menu up here.

I think I've become too spoiled by the Thailand scene. Most of the time now, I prefer fapping to porno rather then picking up any of the skanky hoes that seem to be the only thing around nowadays.

At first I thought this was going to be a thread about whether we partake in the TGirl scene outside of LOS, and in the past my standard answer had always been "no". But I find that my interest has progressed to the point where I now frequently watch TGirl porn. Not the slick studio stuff, I still find that very boring. This year I've discovered I have a hankering for the amateur TGirl blowjob porn that can be found on sites like X tube and X hamster.

I stumbled across some videos on X tube by a young 22-year-old mexican New York City TGirl named Lexi. She is an amazing deepthroat artiste, but the camera she was using was a crappy cell phone camera. Since I happened to have a spare HiDef camcorder (one of the $100 specials you can find on Amazon) I sent her a private message and said I'd be happy to send this to her if she would use it and post better videos in the future.

Long story short, she's been using the new camera for the last couple of months and has sent me about 15 videos over Skype in that time, and I'm going to New York in two weeks for my first visit to the Big Apple, and my first stateside tryst with a TGirl. I've long planned to spend a week in New York City seeing the sights and checking out Broadway shows, but I just never made it a priority in the past. The prospect of spending two or three nights (and five or six blowjobs from her) finally got me off my ass and motivated me to make the trip. I'll report back near the end of the month and let you know how things worked out.

I'll just say it's been a very interesting "friendship" so far. She claims she's not a working girl, but I am extremely skeptical about that. She also claimed that she was a waitress in a Mexican restaurant and was raising her eight-year-old younger brother by herself. I've already caught her out on both of those whoppers and after much protesting she has finally stopped trying to bullshit me on Jose accounts. I can only wonder how much else about her is fabrication is nonsense... If I hadn't seen the videos myself, I'd wonder whether she even really existed. Like I said, it will definitely be interesting, one way or another. Hopefully I get a couple of amazing blowjobs out of it, but even if I don't, I'll still get to finally make that long-awaited trip to New York City.

If you're curious, you can check out one of her videos here: http://www.xtube.com/watch.php?v=surnk-G878-

(Fucking iPad! I just reread this post, and found so many auto correction errors, I can't even begin fixing the mall. Oh well)

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I've been a confirmed whore monger for at least 30 years now.
I got pretty burned out on the scene in Seattle at least 15 years ago, and now go up to Vancouver BC regularly to do my mongering. It's really sleazy up there on the Hastings strip, And I think I'm reaching the burnout point on this scene as well. Used to be, I could come up here (I'm writing this from my hotel room in downtown Vancouver) and the would be 30 or more girls working the Downtown lower East side at any one time.
Now, there are nothing but burned-out junkies, crackheads, and a few tranny's. I've never partaken of the tranny scene outside of Thailand, so that's never been on my menu up here.
I think I've become too spoiled by the Thailand scene. Most of the time now, I prefer fapping to porno rather then picking up any of the skanky hoes that seem to be the only thing around nowadays.
At first I thought this was going to be a thread about whether we partake in the TGirl scene outside of LOS, and in the past my standard answer had always been "no". But I find that my interest has progressed to the point where I now frequently watch TGirl porn. Not the slick studio stuff, I still find that very boring. This year I've discovered I have a hankering for the amateur TGirl blowjob porn that can be found on sites like X tube and X hamster.
I stumbled across some videos on X tube by a young 22-year-old mexican New York City TGirl named Lexi. She is an amazing deepthroat artiste, but the camera she was using was a crappy cell phone camera. Since I happened to have a spare HiDef camcorder (one of the $100 specials you can find on Amazon) I sent her a private message and said I'd be happy to send this to her if she would use it and post better videos in the future.
Long story short, she's been using the new camera for the last couple of months and has sent me about 15 videos over Skype in that time, and I'm going to New York in two weeks for my first visit to the Big Apple, and my first stateside tryst with a TGirl. I've long planned to spend a week in New York City seeing the sights and checking out Broadway shows, but I just never made it a priority in the past. The prospect of spending two or three nights (and five or six blowjobs from her) finally got me off my ass and motivated me to make the trip. I'll report back near the end of the month and let you know how things worked out.
I'll just say it's been a very interesting "friendship" so far. She claims she's not a working girl, but I am extremely skeptical about that. She also claimed that she was a waitress in a Mexican restaurant and was raising her eight-year-old younger brother by herself. I've already caught her out on both of those whoppers and after much protesting she has finally stopped trying to bullshit me on Jose accounts. I can only wonder how much else about her is fabrication is nonsense... If I hadn't seen the videos myself, I'd wonder whether she even really existed. Like I said, it will definitely be interesting, one way or another. Hopefully I get a couple of amazing blowjobs out of it, but even if I don't, I'll still get to finally make that long-awaited trip to New York City.
If you're curious, you can check out one of her videos here: http://www.xtube.com/watch.php?v=surnk-G878-

Hey DT , not sure you remember us meeting , we met in Patts (on way to Action street)then again on Soi 4 (Dan, the big guy) anyways I live here in Van , so if you feel like getting together for coffee and chit chat I guess reply in this rhread and we can sort something out , at work till 4 today btw
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Hey DT , not sure you remember us meeting , we met in Patts (on way to Action street)then again on Soi 4 (Dan, the big guy) anyways I live here in Van , so if you feel like getting together for coffee and chit chat I guess reply in this rhread and we can sort something out , at work till 4 today btw

 

 

Yes, of course I remember you. Sadly, I didn't read this until getting back home. PM me next time!

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Yes, of course I remember you. Sadly, I didn't read this until getting back home. PM me next time!

Shit didn't even realize there is a PM function oh well till next time, just curious where did you end up staying and what did you end up doing anyways ?

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I always stay at one of the 2 Best Western's downtown (I get points toward free stays) and I ended up buying nearly 200 Industrial/Techno CD's at the Value Village for around $2 each. Apparently Nettwerk Records moved their offices and dumped a shitload of their in-house play discs.

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I always stay at one of the 2 Best Western's downtown (I get points toward free stays) and I ended up buying nearly 200 Industrial/Techno CD's at the Value Village for around $2 each. Apparently Nettwerk Records moved their offices and dumped a shitload of their in-house play discs.

I love the location of the BW on Davie , my favourite area of the city, right near the bay, the park and restos on Denman and when I think of Nettwerk 3 words come to mind Skinny Frick'n Puppy (not Sara Frick'n McLaughlin) .Btw whats the mongering like in Portland ?

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I love the location of the BW on Davie , my favourite area of the city, right near the bay, the park and restos on Denman and when I think of Nettwerk 3 words come to mind Skinny Frick'n Puppy (not Sara Frick'n McLaughlin)

 

Yeah, I skipped the Sara and got a few cool items. More KMFDM and S.P.O.C.K. and Assemblage 23 and Front 242 and Frontline Assembly than Skinny Puppy (only 4 of their releases) but I found a couple of autographed items as well - Psyche "Love Among The Ruined" and And One "Monotone EP". I'm not complaining at $1.99 each!

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