bumblebee Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 About 8 or 9 years ago there were ladyboys and then there were the big names, Areeya perhaps being the main one. But nowadays there are perhaps even more ladyboys in p4p scene than back then but none REALLY stand out in my opinion. Is it still possible today for some special ladyboy to make her mark and distinguish herself from the rest, or has that situation changed irreversibly over the years and if so why? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deepthroat Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 BB, I don't see any reason that a "superstar" could never again emerge from the primordial ooze that is the current LB scene. Jar Jar from Fantasy Bar on Soi Buakow seems to be the current "hot thing" on the Pattaya ladyboy circuit. I can't see her ever reaching the exalted level of reference that many of the past "superstars" achieved, but then again I could be wrong about that. Only time will tell. All it will take is one truly stunning girl to appear on the scene and the whole "superstar" phenomenon could be repeated. This reminds me of the old story about someone proposing that the patent office be closed early in the 20th century because "everything that could be has already been invented". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblebee Posted January 29, 2014 Author Share Posted January 29, 2014 Not familiar with Jar Jar, and maybe that says something. I don't follow the bar threads too much anymore or remember names from TRs, so in my mind there are no knockouts around just now. Maybe it's different for single guys who keep any eye on their next target when coming to Los. But like you say, I cannot see many reaching the heights of Areeya, Mint etc for a protracted time although they might be one week wonders. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KendoUK Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Jar Jar is still pretty fresh I think hence why you may not have spotted her yet, The hot new girls get spotted pretty quickly and before you know it, boyfriended up, tits done, cock cut and then drift out of the scene. I'd put this down to a mixture of forum exposure they get through bar threads and the way they are able to market themselves on social networking to find sponsors. Darly's name seems to come up quite a lot and she's always been freelance(?), she only really pushes herself through Thaifriendly and Skype webcam sessions. The girls in Obsessions BKK are cream of the crop but at the same time look they've all been cloned with a Japanese makeover stick, since I can't really name any particular one of them from memory. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ciobha Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 In my opinion, if Big Nancy had the will and desire to follow the "superstar" path, she could probably eclipse all who have gone before her. But I don't reckon that is in her nature (and her old mum would clip her ears) and she is happiest living a relatively quiet but profitable life out of La Bamba with the odd side trip to BKK and beyond! Of course, the fact that there are so many hotties now, and they have free exposure on a daily basis, it would take someone extremely special to emerge head and shoulders above the rest as the most desirable/wanted/lusted after LB on the scene. The likes of Areeya and Mint marketed themselves at a perfect time, when this little niche was only becoming popular, and it was timed in direct relation to the growth of the world wide web. That's just my thoughts, I am sure Paccie will shoot me down and enlighten us all with some of his otherworldly insights to the real reasons behind it all!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiamSam Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Yes, Areeya and Mint were the bitcoin of their day. Curious to know if they handled their own campaign of self-promotion or were they managed. If managed, by whom and at what percentage? Anyone know? Also where are those legendary lasses today? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimslim Posted January 29, 2014 Share Posted January 29, 2014 Back in the early internet forum days when all this was new these people were a novelty to many . Now its a case of overkill for the sake of it , how many different hardcore websites are kicking around ? There are still plenty of beauties around and some who do very well but because of the mass exposure of our scene now I doubt anyone will capture the interest as much as those who went before . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke007 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Bow for me these days, shes good looking, has tan skin, no silicone , slim body , petite butt, a big cock and versatile..damm perfect imho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiamSam Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Once upon a time Bow and I had a session during her EZY days. She is indeed lovely and comes well equipped. I would drink her bath water. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gutsy Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I reckon it's all down how you define superstar. I don't care for that term or the term star. Personally I look for star performers and they usually come from the unknown ranks. What qualifies them a star or superstar status? They have their own website? They have made movies? They have done several professional photo shoots? They have worked/toured other countries? How much they make? They have thousands of followers/friends on facebook? Some would argue that we make them stars with all of our amature photos and positive reports. I have to agree with the previous mentioned comment how the market is saturated with movies and other media so we won't have the standouts like Mint, Areeya, etc, For every fresh faced hottie with "so called star potential" hits the scene it seems there is a sponsor waiting to take a year or two of her prime earning years. so she doesn't have that time to build up growing fan base if she had stuck around at the same bar. I don't know how much Mint or Areeya were pulling down in their prime, but I do know of one ladyboy who some of you may know too who pulls in 80,000 baht a month to quit work at Temptations or at least she told a friend this and did indeed quit. Then just a couple weeks later I meet a BM from another forum who tells me he went with her the night before. I told him I thought she quit Temptations. Then he said he had her number from previous trips. I'm sure she built enough of a customer base that she can collect a nice second income that would rival other bar girls main income. Doesn't really increase her fan base by only servicing old customers who have her number and her boyfriend when he comes to town. Christie formerly of Temptations now on her second LT boyfriend. Could be making over a million baht a year. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiamSam Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Yup, I suppose you're right Gutsy. Good point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azza33 Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Gutsy good choice there too. Ive been with Christie and she was as attractive as any lb ive met. 80,000 a month you say... Hmmm now i know why she seemed a little pissed when i gave her 1500. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaiDee Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Yes, Areeya and Mint were the bitcoin of their day. Curious to know if they handled their own campaign of self-promotion or were they managed. If managed, by whom and at what percentage? Anyone know? Also where are those legendary lasses today? If you go back even a little further than these 2 you would have Natalie and Nat, both from Kings Castle 3 and in my mind the first true, real "superstars" on the internet. Nat was on Ladyboy-Ladyboy in the late 90's and early 2000's and was their hottest LB by far; Natalie came along on AsianTS in 2002 and was THEIR hottest, also by far. So those 2 dominated the LB's on the internet superstar status for probably 5 years between them, a really impressive run, and anyone who viewed Asian Ladyboy porn back in those days surely remembers them. Areeya and Mint were the next generation superstars, again in my opinion, and that started around 2005 and 2006. Both of their sites seem to be defunct now, I just tried to pull them up. Their campaign of promotion were handled by the same guys who handled LB-69 and ExtremeLadyboys, the Exotic Gold group. You can see their home page for affiliates and their many sites here; http://exoticgold.com/ Clicking on Areeya's and Mint's page leads you nowhere, but for some reason Hung Helen [?} is still active. Just goes to show that ''superstar'' status doesn't last all that long, and same as Natalie and Nat their time may have come and gone by now. Where they are today Sam is anyone's guess, and I would have no idea what the percentages were; but Exotic Gold ran the sites, promoted them, paid for the bandwidth and most likely took all the pics and videos so I'd say a 50/50 split on all net revenue from memberships would be a good guess. Sponsors, 'boyfriends', e-mail fans sending cash, etc.....would have been 100% theirs to keep, of course. Teresa/Talisha from Casanova would have to be considered a Superstar also; she was huge on the 'net for 2 or 3 websites in the mid-2000's and very popular with her blonde hair and huge tool. While I have no idea who the new Superstars are these days, Jim makes a good point in the sense that there is so much smut out there on the internet these days that there may be no one, pure superstar anymore. The punters have their own favorites, and some of the hottest make it on to forums like this one or the Pattaya LB Forum, and those are probably the Superstars of this era. I think Amy/Emma is the last of the true internet Superstars, she was huge 4 or 5 years ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaiDee Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I do know of one ladyboy who some of you may know too who pulls in 80,000 baht a month to quit work at Temptations or at least she told a friend this and did indeed quit. Christie formerly of Temptations now on her second LT boyfriend. Could be making over a million baht a year. I think there is a difference between a Ladyboy 'Superstar' and ''some ladyboy from Nana Plaza who has saps from Europe and America sending her money.'' Those are a dime a dozen, some making more, some making less. Hell, if someone is making a million a year, around 80K a month, good for her; but she may not be a superstar if only a few dozen punters even know who she is. Noon from Cascades circa 2005 or 2006 was one of these; she surely made somewhere between 60 and 100K a month just on bar fines and sponsers and was very famous amongst the denizens of Nana Plaza. Guys who frequented Pattaya or Phuket would have no idea who she was however, as her smallish cock didn't translate into a huge internet presence. Same-same Chompoo from Obsessions, who probably made as much as any LB ever did in her prime, but never was that big on the 'net and again because of a small cock. Guys want the big monster cocks.....which is why Nancy and Mint and Teresa were so popular.....Areeya was medium and could pull it off because she was so exotic-looking; Amy/Emma was very small but could also pull it off because she was extremely beautiful in her prime and had a great smile. I hope every girl mentioned in this thread has a nice healthy bank account by now, I'd hate to think they have blown all their earnings on ice and the latest handbag. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snick Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I can't think of any superstars, maybe some 'stars' ( Almond, 20cm Noon, etc..) One reason is the quality of these girls these days is amazing. Back when Areeya was 'famous' she was clearly more attractive than other LB. Now their are 10+ girls in Obsession who look just as good / feminine and another 20 who are close. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaiDee Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I've always said that Obsession was/is the best Ladyboy bar in the world; where else can you find 50+ gorgeous ladyboys on a small stage, all of whom would be the hottest TS in whatever city you have come from? Last time I was in there must be 5 years ago now.....sat by myself for an hour and had a couple beers, and not one girl approached me or even looked in my direction despite trying to make eye contact; oh, how times have changed. I guess these days you need to be Japanese to attract one of those cute little 19-year old hotties, but I doubt I will ever find out; that night was enough to sufficiently crush my spirit and keep me away, probably for good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snick Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 I love these tourist disasters !!! Lots of attention from the Obsession and Cacscade girls. I'm going to schedule a bird flu-coup-flood for next year and have 'em all to myself !!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnykey Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Yes Jaidee Nat and Natalie bring back memories. They were the first Thai ladyboys I encountered on the www. I still have some pics I collected somewhere. Cheers DK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaiDee Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Yeah Donny, most people wouldn't remember Nat but she was surely the star of the internet LB community back in the late 90's and one of the first ones I ever really got into. I have vivid memories [but alas, the photos are long gone] of her on a Bangkok balcony in a white outfit, as well as her dressed up as some kind of Indian harem girl in a silky blue outfit; super-hot. She and Natalie were friends and worked together in Kings 3, I remember having some chow with them both at some late-night noodle-stand around there back in the day, I felt like I was hanging around with celebrities. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcat Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 . Now their are 10+ girls in Obsession who look just as good / feminine and another 20 who are close. Obs BKK I think Gow is a Superstar.. she is IMO anyway.. she is cute and clever. I dont think she will ever be on any site soon which is why she isnt so well known... also gets around3 customers a day . She must be the richest LB around , or getting there soon. Think she is still at Uni. but wont getting a proper job any time soon thats for sure. as soon as one of the LB sites gets her she will rise up to Goddess Status She is superrrr cute and thanks to TT Chang for the intro , not that im shy The last three days i was in Town the JapTourBus pulled up and a queue was forming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnykey Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Jai dee just had to have a rummage around... Found this one of Nat. I've got many more of her and Natalie amongst others on old dusty CD's but would take me too long to find them. And I do have to fly out tomorrow. Cheers DK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JaiDee Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 Thanks, DK .....I would say she was for sure the first internet superstar for Asian ladyboys.....there were a few TS from Brazil and the States and Argentina before her, but she put LB-LB on the map for good, and I am sure Seanchai would agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblebee Posted February 1, 2014 Author Share Posted February 1, 2014 I remember seeing her photos at the time and thinking this is what I want. Such a face and I guess that's how new guys feel when they see today's girls plastered all over the net. She was on a few of the dating sites up until recently, probably still is, and from chats with her a few years ago she mentioned she loves to top, if you are into that stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdogg Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 Jai dee just had to have a rummage around... Found this one of Nat. To see more of Nat and lots of other Ladyboys, here's the link: http://join.ladyboy-ladyboy.com/track/lbrlbr.2.7.7.0.0.0.0.0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JustSumGai Posted February 7, 2014 Share Posted February 7, 2014 there's SO MANY. It's become an industry. I thought they were all superstars. They sure throw out superstar prices. The concept is obsolete now I think. For me Nancy and Sindy will always be superstars, maybe among the last of the true ones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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