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20 hours ago, soiboy said:

like maybe Hai Karate?

Brut for men.

BRUT was introduced to Paris in the 1960's. Today, It is still one of the most well-known, fragrance-led male personal care brands preferred by men around the world. Since its launch, BRUT signature fragrances have empowered men across the world to wear its fragrances with confidence, charm and character.

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On 3/20/2021 at 7:11 PM, Cherjam said:

are you sure you are a poof? you seem straight to me 555

I am straight as in STR82NL women preferably, sissies will do.    The parts about me cocksucking and bottoming are rumours spread by PY to reassure their poofs-in-denial.

Nice discussion gentlemen.  Not many threads on our Board make it to page 2...

Tool kit and Justin Bieber funny stuff aside,... I would like to highlight 2 reactions posted above that made me think we may best self-ascertain our gayness on a deep instinctive level

1 - P&G suggested adding to the questionnaire whether we prefer to wake up in the morning with a GG or ladyboy.  As much as I like the rock hard morning erections of my ladyboy sleepovers, it does not compare to waking up with a GG wrapped around me.  The bonding is instinctive and I never feel like that with ladyboys.

2- In the same vein, PD ackowledged if he ever took a rolling brown out he would rather take it from a GG despite his general sexual preference for ladyboys. In this case what is instinctive is the added repulsion caused by knowing the shit is coming from a male, even though PD would not be able to tell the difference between GG and sissy shit...

How about other BMs?  would you not rather wake up in the loving arms of a woman?  or dowse yourself with a bucket of GG shit rather than a man's ?

Apologies for my bluntness, but I think we are making progress with the group therapy... remember to thank me when you see me ...

R

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3 hours ago, seven said:

Brut for men.

BRUT was introduced to Paris in the 1960's. Today, It is still one of the most well-known, fragrance-led male personal care brands preferred by men around the world. Since its launch, BRUT signature fragrances have empowered men across the world to wear its fragrances with confidence, charm and character.

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Hmmm.  That description of Brut sounds awfully masculine.  Would that be masculine as in suave Sean Connery as James Bond, or masculine in the Village People Crisco fist-fucking kind of way?  I'm thinking of maybe something delicately floral with fruity overtones....

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All of these posts are because we grew up in the West and we spent One Night In Bangkok......and we didn't just get fucked. We got 'mind fucked'.

We did things that are barely in the imagination of blokes back home and we pushed boundaries that are beyond how our world was framed during the first 20 years of our life. Our minds had difficulty processing it.

For some, it's too much to handle so they struggle and ruminate with the torturous thoughts "Am I gay".....

Some move on and just go with it.

 

Many many Thai guys bang ladyboys....especially in their early years. I bet they don't struggle with this thinking after. They get married. They have kids. And they fuck pussy and maybe an ass or two on the side. Whatever is available and whatever they desire. No stress.

Mai Pen Rai!!!

 

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On 3/22/2021 at 1:04 PM, The-Sith said:

All of these posts are because we grew up in the West and we spent One Night In Bangkok......and we didn't just get fucked. We got 'mind fucked'.

We did things that are barely in the imagination of blokes back home and we pushed boundaries that are beyond how our world was framed during the first 20 years of our life. Our minds had difficulty processing it.

For some, it's too much to handle so they struggle and ruminate with the torturous thoughts "Am I gay".....

Some move on and just go with it.

 

Many many Thai guys bang ladyboys....especially in their early years. I bet they don't struggle with this thinking after. They get married. They have kids. And they fuck pussy and maybe an ass or two on the side. Whatever is available and whatever they desire. No stress.

Mai Pen Rai!!!

 

 

Take it easy mate. We like to endlessly discuss and dissect the topic. The purpose doesn’t consist to find a definite answer but to talk about it again and again. This is our intelectual sport when we’ve got nothing to post in forums.

I felt like creating a new topic : are we wankers ? Given what I discovered in this new topic, I believed it could be reluctant but I feared to be upset some one. So, let’s focus of what makes our life and interess : are we gay ?

 

Last night, I watched a programm dealing with gansters in a city in the 1980s and 1990s. Guys were thugs with no morals and no respect for their lives. Many of them were murdered and a couple of survivors described themselves as heroes or even as good people after 20 years behind the bars. I prefer the ladyboys mongers excitation. Maybe we will make a TV program in 10 years after the 100th strain of covid forces government to maintain travel bans. We will describe ourselves as heroes having found a crazy version of paradise in Bangkok and Pattaya. We’ll talk of the one having girlfriends in every South East Asia country, those who pushed to Malaysia, the Philippines or Vietnam. But when the TV program needs a higher level discussion, we will be ready to keep him complete his program asking us if we are gay.

Hoepfully, one of these days, Rom will post a cartoon he is the only one who can draw it dealing with the "Am I gay" theme. 

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I have gone the fully LB route. Met many fine specimens too, along with a few that did not pass muster.

Tend to go the long haul with most. Not into one nighters.

For a change I had a challenge. Was going to spend my last few days of one trip in BKK after my time in Pattaya, or as a lot of the English say, Pattire!..

Was catching the bus up saving myself a bit of dosh. While waiting in the bus terminal I sat next to a GG. A good looker. We chatted a bit then got on the bus. She sat next to me still chatting away. Mmmm I thought, wonder where this is going. She got a bit cosy, so I popped the question. Want to go out tonight?. Sure, so we arranged a time to meet at a bar on Soi 4. Turned up right on time looking like a real stunner!. Had a great night. How about coming back to my room says me?. Sure. Well off we trot. Now I am no Romeo as some of you might know, so that was a surprise.

Up to the room, I dim the lights a bit and whammo, the clothes come off. To say I was dissappointed is an understatement. Everything went south. What had been a 9/10 changed into a 3/10. Biggest letdown in my sexual life. I tried to act the part but ended up saying I think it best if you leave. Off she went. That was the last time I ventured into gg land. It was the only diversion I had in 5 years, 4 months and 2 weeks when I first dove into lb land. I am sure there many fine gg's around but I only have eyes for lb's now. My eyes do survey the gg's in the bars but I have to say that very few do anything for me. Most have now hit the tubby side of good. Turns me off. As does the thought of looking at a fanny with big flaps. Yuk. Also the smells like fish, tastes like chicken bit. Not always true!.

I can also say that I have no thoughts of doing an excursion to Boystown. The thought repels me.

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On 3/22/2021 at 5:04 AM, The-Sith said:

Many many Thai guys bang ladyboys....especially in their early years. I bet they don't struggle with this thinking after. They get married. They have kids. And they fuck pussy and maybe an ass or two on the side.

 

On my firlst trip to Philippines, and after being bombarded with ladyboys literally begging me to pick them for a date, I asked one of LB Girls why she went after foreigners.  She said she, and many other ladyboys prefer foreign men because we are more likely to want a relationship.  She said Filipino men always have pressure from family to marry a GG and have kids since it is a very Catholic country and having children is highly valued for being a complete man in society.   Thus, the Filipino ladyboys can get plenty of Filipino dick, but they know they can never really expect a real relationship.  

That was what I was told...so if may or may not  be true.

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7 hours ago, Woodie said:

I have gone the fully LB route. Met many fine specimens too, along with a few that did not pass muster.

Tend to go the long haul with most. Not into one nighters.

That was the last time I ventured into gg land. ...I am sure there many fine gg's around but I only have eyes for lb's now. My eyes do survey the gg's in the bars but I have to say that very few do anything for me.

I have come the conclusion that the emotional, social, and financial cost of dealing with GGs is now more than I want to pay.

There is no such thing as free pussy. I always have to pay with by  taking the time get emotionally invested, or paying by the requirement that I introduce the GG to my social network, or paying (financial cost) actual money since most GG's I have dated expected me to pay full freight for anything we did from dinner to a whirlwind vacation in the Bahamas.

 

 

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I, like all other BMs, may be entangled in the "Am I gay ?" conundrum that dominates the multilogue in ladyboy boards.  But "Am I a party bottom" ?  No way Sanchai !   I will however hand out a Romscar to one of the BMs who admits to being one.   The-Sith:  do you want to add to your Romscars collection ?  RandiUno2: did I read you right that you are a self-admitted party bottom and proud of it ?

Regarding my own "Am I gay?" wonderings, I asked one of my ladyboy groupies in AC  and this was the answer I got:

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28 minutes ago, RandiUno2 said:

There is no such thing as free pussy.

Damn right.  If its just the pussy you're after you're better off just paying a one-off short time. 

Holy moly, Rom. Thats the nicest set of lowhang Ive seen in a long time.

 

re: party bottom sounds as camp as power bottom.
 

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 "RandiUno2: did I read you right that you are a self-admitted party bottom and proud of it ?"

Yes, I admit to being the designated bottom for a group of ladyboys on more than one occassion, although in my mind there is a distinction between being a "party bottom" and being "a party bottom on special occassions" ie, birthday, closing big business deal, or on ladyboy travel vacation.

But, for a self-diagnosis, i would say this behavior get me dangerously close to being gay....lol.  

There is a also a phenomenon in sexuality research known as "situational homosexuality".  This occurs when a person who is otherwise straight chooses to have sex with someone biologically of the same sex due to lack of sex partners of the other gender/sex, ie men in prison/jail; men in work camps/barracks; men working in communities with few women (gold rush/oil rush towns). same sex boarding schools as examples.

situational homosexuality – APA Dictionary of Psychology

 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Rom said:

 

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OMG! Look at those boy nipples! And that boy tongue! And that delicious slab of boy cock (with a surprisingly good circumcision for a Filipino). And those muy deliciosos huevos!

Whew! Good thing I'm only situationally gay. As in this situation....

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One time, about 17 years ago, I met up with Lusi Mustang.... one of the greatest Ladyboys to ever walk this earth. I did a threesome at the Nana Hotel with her and an LB friend of hers. 

I played some music and our session was intense. OH....If those dark green drapes could talk, the stories they could tell!!!

After the session, Lusi tells me she is throwing a party at her condo that night and asks if I want to join. Fuck right I do!!! The Sith is always up for partying with Femme Fatale with a cock.

So we first go to a multi level parking lot and score some favors for the night from one of those 50 year old dragon lady katoeys in sunglasses and rich woman's attire who has kept it going after decades of tricks and cabaret. If you want to know what favors.... it was 11th letters and 13th letters in the alphabet, which are the main two at raves.

Next we go to a club with about 10 of her friends.... some LB, some Femboys and some gay dudes. I was still somewhat fresh to the LB scene at the time so femboys were a new thing for me.

Later that night, we end up at Lusi's condo for a drug fueled party with side sex happening.

During the night...... I crawled up to Lusi on my knees....who was laying on the couch totally rolling from the favors. I asked her....."Lusi, am I gay?"

She immediately let out a laugh with a big "No!"

"No, you are not gay!"

The answer in its auditory delivery, words, body language was a super certain negative to my question.

She was actually amused and found it funny I would ask such a ridiculous question.

 

That was Lusi Mustang on truth serum. The 13th letter favor is super empathic and it's almost impossible to lie and get away with it.... and certainly is the truth when someone is laying on a couch rolling and just gives an instinctive answer.

 

Remember also that Lusi has since removed her breasts and lives as a gay man. She is ladyboy ostensibley (and one of the most foxiest ever), yet actually is and was back then too (presumably), a gay man with Boltons doing it for the cash.

 

She is THE expert. With the expert Gaydar who doesn't need to delude herself into thinking her partners are straight because she doesn't give a fuck. She's not trying to make believe her partners are straight so she can believe she is a straight woman. She wants to fuck guys, gay or straight. 

Of course.... being like the other BMs on this site....i continued to debate the question in my mind for years after that.....but without the same intensity and care for it...... and eventually I matured to the point that I just didn't care and knew who I was, and who I am today.

 

So I know you guys are all experts on this and can call each other poufs. Mostly in jest, and sometimes it's projecting your own insecurities and mental anguish on others. But with all due respect, none of you guys are experts in this area.

I got diagnosed by an expert......who happened to be on truth serum at the time (and we were super connected so I could detect even the slightest thing that would not be congruent with her. Moreover, she knew me at that point because of the sex and favors.... She knew me super intimately at an emotional and physical level).

 

Around 11am.... I was the first to wake. My flight was in 20 minutes..... so I had missed it. I tip toed out of her condo, stepping over a couple of femboys sleeping on the floor. It was one of the greatest nights of my life. I masturbated to things that happened that day and night for the next decade. At that point in time for sure was the wildest One Night In Bangkok experience I ever had (with even crazier things to come in the years ahead!) And it opened me up to the world of lovely budding femboys too!

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, The-Sith said:

One time, about 17 years ago, I met up with Lusi Mustang.... one of the greatest Ladyboys to ever walk this earth.

Lusi tells me she is throwing a party at her condo that night and asks if I want to join.

Later that night, we end up at Lusi's condo for a drug fueled party with side sex happening.

You party bottom! :biggrin: 

For me about 14 years ago. Had been creaming over her on lb-69 in that nurse outfit for years.  She was on her way out of the scene, a bit jaded. She took me to some fancy place in Patpong then back to Dynasty Inn Grande for a helluva ride. Saw LongMint a few days earlier. They  were friends.

How I miss those days.

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13 hours ago, The-Sith said:

One time, about 17 years ago, I met up with Lusi Mustang.... one of the greatest Ladyboys to ever walk this earth. I did a threesome at the Nana Hotel with her and an LB friend of hers. 

I played some music and our session was intense. OH....If those dark green drapes could talk, the stories they could tell!!!

After the session, Lusi tells me she is throwing a party at her condo that night and asks if I want to join. Fuck right I do!!! The Sith is always up for partying with Femme Fatale with a cock.

So we first go to a multi level parking lot and score some favors for the night from one of those 50 year old dragon lady katoeys in sunglasses and rich woman's attire who has kept it going after decades of tricks and cabaret. If you want to know what favors.... it was 11th letters and 13th letters in the alphabet, which are the main two at raves.

Next we go to a club with about 10 of her friends.... some LB, some Femboys and some gay dudes. I was still somewhat fresh to the LB scene at the time so femboys were a new thing for me.

Later that night, we end up at Lusi's condo for a drug fueled party with side sex happening.

During the night...... I crawled up to Lusi on my knees....who was laying on the couch totally rolling from the favors. I asked her....."Lusi, am I gay?"

She immediately let out a laugh with a big "No!"

"No, you are not gay!"

The answer in its auditory delivery, words, body language was a super certain negative to my question.

She was actually amused and found it funny I would ask such a ridiculous question.

 

That was Lusi Mustang on truth serum. The 13th letter favor is super empathic and it's almost impossible to lie and get away with it.... and certainly is the truth when someone is laying on a couch rolling and just gives an instinctive answer.

 

Remember also that Lusi has since removed her breasts and lives as a gay man. She is ladyboy ostensibley (and one of the most foxiest ever), yet actually is and was back then too (presumably), a gay man with Boltons doing it for the cash.

 

She is THE expert. With the expert Gaydar who doesn't need to delude herself into thinking her partners are straight because she doesn't give a fuck. She's not trying to make believe her partners are straight so she can believe she is a straight woman. She wants to fuck guys, gay or straight. 

Of course.... being like the other BMs on this site....i continued to debate the question in my mind for years after that.....but without the same intensity and care for it...... and eventually I matured to the point that I just didn't care and knew who I was, and who I am today.

 

So I know you guys are all experts on this and can call each other poufs. Mostly in jest, and sometimes it's projecting your own insecurities and mental anguish on others. But with all due respect, none of you guys are experts in this area.

I got diagnosed by an expert......who happened to be on truth serum at the time (and we were super connected so I could detect even the slightest thing that would not be congruent with her. Moreover, she knew me at that point because of the sex and favors.... She knew me super intimately at an emotional and physical level).

 

Around 11am.... I was the first to wake. My flight was in 20 minutes..... so I had missed it. I tip toed out of her condo, stepping over a couple of femboys sleeping on the floor. It was one of the greatest nights of my life. I masturbated to things that happened that day and night for the next decade. At that point in time for sure was the wildest One Night In Bangkok experience I ever had (with even crazier things to come in the years ahead!) And it opened me up to the world of lovely budding femboys too!

 

 

 

 

I can't say that I agree with what you say but I don't disagree either. 

I'd rather focus on Lusi Mustang. I didn't know this ladyboy till I read your post. I had probably seen her pics at the time she was doing porn when porn stars were Areeya or Longmint but I hadn't memorized her name. For those who don't know her, it seems that many of her vids had been removed from ladyboy69. However here is her page at shemaledb Lusi free galleries at ShemaleStarDB.com

a couple of her videos Lusi - Shemale Pornstar Model at aShemaleTube.com 

and a couple photos found  on the net :

 

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I liked your story. I hope these pictures will elp those who didn't know her. 

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6 hours ago, P&G said:

 

I can't say that I agree with what you say but I don't disagree either. 

I'd rather focus on Lusi Mustang. I didn't know this ladyboy till I read your post. I had probably seen her pics at the time she was doing porn when porn stars were Areeya or Longmint but I hadn't memorized her name. For those who don't know her, it seems that many of her vids had been removed from ladyboy69. However here is her page at shemaledb Lusi free galleries at ShemaleStarDB.com

a couple of her videos Lusi - Shemale Pornstar Model at aShemaleTube.com

The Sith is correct, Lusi Mustang did revert to being a gay man as posted on The Ladyboy Forums back in 2014.

Now going by the name of Louis Mustang - I do not have any photos of him.

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I am not going to argue on Lusi Mustang. I don't know her. I probably saw her pics at the time I was discovering Areeya, Longmint or Natalie. But the Sith explained us this ladyboy told him at the end of a sex party he isn't a gay. Very well, he's glad she said that. I don't really care of ladyboys' opinions, especially Thai ladyboys. I remember my first ladyboy. When I stayed with her for our first day,  I sometimes wore cargo pants and sometimes bermuda jeans. She complained that bermuda jeans were for gay,so she didn't want me to wear bermuda jeans. So far, I had thought that bermuda jeans were usefull and money saving. I would take worn jeans and the whole, then use it when traveling and throw them to the rubbish before leaving the LOS. Regretfully, if I do that, according to this ladyboy I am gay. I see no reason why a ladyboy could be an expert to judge whether we are (or I am) gay or not, even though she's a porn star. ladyboys are no better expert than we are. 

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Mostly in jest, and sometimes it's projecting your own insecurities and mental anguish on others. 

this point would deserved to be developped. I guss this is the point. Why do we wonder so often "are we gay ?"

 

 

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Soiboys posting about the F1 driver being tasty brought me to a shuddering halt re this subject.

When I read it and saw his angle I took a complete 180 deg turn,(excuse the pun), and said to myself ,"no way am I attracted to that driver". End of story!.

No I am not gay, just like Ladyboys!!!!!. 

Would sooner fly to the moon than visit Boystown.

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