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Here's the deal.

 

This is Mia's 25 year old son. She had him when she was with Woody Allen. However prior to her relationship with Woody she was married to Frank for 2 years. Apparently after the marriage was dissolved she and Frank continue rolling in the hay (while she was with Woody). Up until recently Mia denied it was Frank's kid but given those old blue eyes and smile she is now coming clean. 

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Based on looks alone there would seem to be no question it's Frankie's kid, but Sinatra's widow and a few other people have said that claim is ''absurd''.  Then he certainly got Mia's looks, 'cause Woody looks nothing like he does.

 

  Somewhere along the way he was blessed with some brains too , the kid graduated college at age 15! And is now studying at Oxford.   He can pretty much punch his own ticket, plus he's surely worth a small fortune by now in family money.

 

''Farrow first came to prominence when at age 11 he became the youngest student to attend Bard College at Simon's Rock in Massachusetts, an affiliate of Bard College that accepts high school-aged students wanting to start college earlyHe went on to Bard College, where he graduated at age 15. At 16, he attended Yale Law school, graduating in 2009, and later became a member of the New York Bar.''

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Was googling around to see if Frankie or Woody had the higher IQ and came up with this Off Topic list.

 

Name (First/Last)
    Description     Country     

IQ
(SB)
Abraham Lincoln     President     USA     128
Adolf Hitler     Nazi leader     Germany     141
Al Gore     Politician     USA     134
Albert Einstein     Physicist     USA     160
Albrecht von Haller     Medical scientist     Switzerland     190
Alexander Pope     Poet & writer     England     180
Sir Andrew J. Wiles     Mathematician     England     170
Andrew Jackson     President     USA     123
Andy Warhol     Pop artist     USA     86
Anthonis van Dyck     Painter     Dutch     155
Antoine Arnauld     Theologian     France     190
Arne Beurling     Mathematician     Sweden     180
Arnold Schwarzenegger     Actor/politician     Austrian     135
Baruch Spinoza     Philosopher     Holland     175
Benjamin Franklin     Writer, scientist & politician     USA     160
Benjamin Netanyahu     Israeli Prime Minister     Israel     180
Bill Gates     CEO, Microsoft     USA     160
Bill (William) Jefferson Clinton     President     USA     137
Blaise Pascal     Mathematician & religious philosopher     France     195
Bobby Fischer     Chess player     USA     187
Buonarroti Michelangelo     Artist, poet & architect     Italy     180
Carl von Linn     Botanist     Sweden     165
Charles Darwin     Naturalist     England     165
Charles Dickens     Writer     England     180
Christopher Michael Langan     Bouncer & scientist & philosopher     USA     195
Sir Clive Sinclair     Inventor     England     159
David Hume     Philosopher & politician     Scotland     180
Dr David Livingstone     Explorer & doctor     Scotland     170
Donald Byrne     Chess Player     Irland     170
Emanuel Swedenborg     thologian/scientist/philosopher     Sweden     205
Sir Francis Galton     Scientist & doctor     British     200
Friedrich Wilhelm Joseph von Schelling     Philosopher     Germany     190
Galileo Galilei     Physicist & astronomer & philosopher     Italy     185
Geena (Virginia) Elizabeth Davis     Actress     USA     140
Georg Friedrich Händel     Composer     Germany     170
George Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel     Philosopher     Germany     165
George Berkeley     Philosopher     Ireland     190
George H. Choueiri     A.C.E Leader     Lebanon     195
George Eliot (Mary Ann Evans)     Writer     England     160
George Sand (Amantinr Aurore Lucile Dupin)     Writer     France     150
George Walker Bush     President     USA     125
George Washington     President     USA     118
Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibniz     philospher / scientist / lawyer     Germany     205
Hans Dolph Lundgren     Actor     Sweden     160
Hans Christian Andersen     writer / poet     Denmark     145
Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton     US Politician     USA     140
Hjalmar Horace Greeley Schacht     President of the Reichsbank / Nazi Officer     Germany     143
Honoré de Balzac (Honore Balzac)     Writer / novelist     France     155
Hugo Grotius (Huig De Groot)     Jurist     Holland     200
Hypatia of Alexandria     Philosopher & mathematician     Alexandria     170
Immanuel Kant     Philosopher     Germany     175
Sir Isaac Newton     Scientist     England     190
Jakob Ludwig Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdy     Composer     Germany     165
James Cook     Explorer     England     160
James Watt     Physicist & technician     Scotland     165
James Howard Woods     Actor     USA     180
Jayne Mansfield     
--
    USA     149
Jean Marie Auel     Writer     Finland/ America     140
Jodie Foster     Actor     USA     132
Johann Sebastian Bach     Composer     Germany     165
Johann Strauss     Composer     Germany     170
Johann Wolfgang von Goethe     
--
    Germany     210
Johannes Kepler     Mathematician, physicist & astronomer     Germany     175
John Adams     President     USA     137
John F. Kennedy     Ex-President     USA     117
John H. Sununu     Chief of Staff for President Bush     USA     180
John Quincy Adams     President     USA     153
John Stuart Mill     Universal Genius     England     200
JohnLocke     Philosopher     England     165
Jola Sigmond     Teacher     Sweden     161
Jonathan Swift     Writer & theologian     England     155
Joseph Haydn     Composer     Austria     160
Joseph Louis Lagrange     Mathematician & astronomer     Italy/France     185
Judith Polgar     Chess player     Hungary     170
Kim Ung-Yong     
--
    Korea     200
Kimovitch Garry Kasparov     Chess player     Russia     190
Leonardo da Vinci     Universal Genius     Italy     220
Lord Byron     Poet & writer     England     180
Louis Napoleon Bonaparte     Emperor     France     145
Ludwig van Beethoven     Composer     Germany     165
Ludwig Wittgenstein     Philosopher     Austria     190
Madame de Stael     Novelist & philosopher     France     180
Madonna     Singer     USA     140
Marilyn vos Savant     Writer     USA     186
Martin Luther     Theorist     Germany     170
Miguel de Cervantes     Writer     Spain     155
Nicolaus Copernicus     Astronomer     Poland     160
Nicole Kidman     Actor     USA     132
Paul Allen     Microsoft cofounder     USA     160
Philip Emeagwali     Mathematician     Nigeria     190
Phillipp Melanchthon     Humanist & theologian     Germany     190
PierreSimon de Laplace     Astronomer & mathematician     France     190
Plato     Philosopher     Greece     170
Ralph Waldo Emerson     Writer     USA     155
Raphael     Artist     Italy     170
Rembrandt van Rijn     Artist     Holland     155
Ren Descartes     Mathematician & philosopher     France     185
Richard Nixon     Ex-President     USA     143
Richard Wagner     Composer     Germany     170
Robert Byrne     Chess Player     Irland     170
Rousseau     Writer     France     150
Sarpi     Councilor & theologian & historian     Italy     195
Shakira     Singer     Colombia     140
Sharon Stone     Actress     USA     154
Sofia Kovalevskaya     Mathematician & writer     Sweden/Russia     170
Stephen W. Hawking     Physicist     England     160
Thomas Chatterton     Poet & writer     England     180
Thomas Jefferson     President     USA     138
Thomas Wolsey     Politician     England     200
Truman Cloak     
--
    
--
    165
Ulysses S. Grant     President     USA     110
Voltaire     Writer     France     190
William James Sidis     
--
    USA     200
William Pitt (the Younger)     Politician     England     190
Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart     Composer     Austria     165

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Was googling around to see if Frankie or Woody had the higher IQ and came up with this Off Topic list.

 

How would anyone know & what would it prove anyway? IQ measurement doesn't take into account things like emotional intelligence, etc. Some people score highly in tests but can't utilize their gift in real world situations. And we all know dumb bastards who have pulled off very smart financial moves. They only appear dumb, they have plenty of the stuff that can't be measured. Not yet at least.

 

The picture isn't conclusive either IMO. Though the eyes do favour Frank. I am not talking about their colour either, he just doesn't have that 'hang-dog' look of Woody. But a case could be made for the lips & nose being Woody's. He's a strange lookin' dude either way.

 

I think the Sinatra families attitude towards him tells us more than anything else. They have always welcomed him in as one of their own. Seems Miss Farrow wanted her cake & eat it too.

 

The list is nothing if not amusing. Da Vinci scores highest, no surprise there, Andy Warhol is lowest, not sure about that, but to mark him down 39 points lower than the 43rd President, I think Mr Warhol was robbed. If he was still alive he should demand a recount.

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John H. Sununu     Chief of Staff for President Bush     USA     180

 

   This guy was also the governor from my home state for a while back in the 80's.....helluva smart guy, I remember reading a story a few years back about some long questionnaire used to gauge people's IQ or general smarts in many different areas.......it took a few days to do it and most smart people found it incredibly hard; he did it while on an airplane ride and got a higher score than anyone.

 

  Hard to figure this one;

 

George Walker Bush     President     USA     125  {AKA  W.}

 

is higher than

 

John F. Kennedy     Ex-President     USA     117

 

 Really?

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IQ tests in the 1700s? 

 

  Forget the 1700's, this one goes back to the 1400's!

 

Leonardo da Vinci     Universal Genius     Italy     220

 

   For those guys on the list before 1900 they are probably just guessing [properly] that those guys would've been super-smart on the IQ scale.  After all, if you can dream up and draw a helicopter in 1485 you must have had a little bit going on upstairs!

 

   For my money I'd take this guy any day, he wore a lot of different hats and only wrote the declaration of independence we still use 240 years later; also spoke fluent French, Greek and Latin and founded the University of Virginia, doubled the size of the USA for a song, was an architect, an ambassador and 2-term president, etc.....

 

Thomas Jefferson     President     USA     138

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For my money I'd take this guy any day, he wore a lot of different hats and only wrote the declaration of independence we still use 240 years later; also spoke fluent French, Greek and Latin and founded the University of Virginia, doubled the size of the USA for a song, was an architect, an ambassador and 2-term president, etc.....

 

Thomas Jefferson     President     USA     138

 

I read this morning that the editorial in Le Monde states "Jefferson, wake up, they've gone crazy".

 

There's one French editorial writer who nailed it.

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apparently sinatra had a huge schlong......so that would explain mia's dalliance with him while married to woody...

 

  Frankie was actually nailing that little hottie way before Woody ever got to her.......whether or not he came back in the 90's to screw her again seems to be the question now.

 

The kid is pretty handsome and errr, Woody is not.

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I would certainly hope my Dad was Frank and not Nebbish Woody!!!  I think when Sinatra married Mia Farrow he was like 50 and she was 20.  Yeah THAT was going to work.  Anyway, it seems Frank was pounda-tating all his exes.  That guy had it.  He could walk into a room and screw whomever he wanted.  Kind of like me with a fistful of 1,000 baht notes in Thailand!!!!

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Was googling around to see if Frankie or Woody had the higher IQ and came up with this Off Topic list.

 

Name (First/Last)

    Description     Country     

IQ

(SB)

Abraham Lincoln     President     USA     128

Adolf Hitler     Nazi leader     Germany     141

Al Gore     Politician     USA     134

Albert Einstein     Physicist     USA     160

Albrecht von Haller     Medical scientist     Switzerland     190

Alexander Pope     Poet & writer     England     180

Sir Andrew J. Wiles     Mathematician     England     170

Andrew Jackson     President     USA     123

Andy Warhol     Pop artist     USA     86

Anthonis van Dyck     Painter     Dutch     155

Antoine Arnauld     Theologian     France     190

Arne Beurling     Mathematician     Sweden     180

Arnold Schwarzenegger     Actor/politician     Austrian     135

Baruch Spinoza     Philosopher     Holland     175

Benjamin Franklin     Writer, scientist & politician     USA     160

Benjamin Netanyahu     Israeli Prime Minister     Israel     180

Bill Gates     CEO, Microsoft     USA     160

Bill (William) Jefferson Clinton     President     USA     137

Blaise Pascal     Mathematician & religious philosopher     France     195

Bobby Fischer     Chess player     USA     187

Buonarroti Michelangelo     Artist, poet & architect     Italy     180

Carl von Linn     Botanist     Sweden     165

Charles Darwin     Naturalist     England     165

Charles Dickens     Writer     England     180

Christopher Michael Langan     Bouncer & scientist & philosopher     USA     195

Sir Clive Sinclair     Inventor     England     159

David Hume     Philosopher & politician     Scotland     180

Dr David Livingstone     Explorer & doctor     Scotland     170

Donald Byrne     Chess Player     Irland     170

Emanuel Swedenborg     thologian/scientist/philosopher     Sweden     205

Sir Francis Galton     Scientist & doctor     British     200

Friedrich Wilhelm Joseph von Schelling     Philosopher     Germany     190

Galileo Galilei     Physicist & astronomer & philosopher     Italy     185

Geena (Virginia) Elizabeth Davis     Actress     USA     140

Georg Friedrich Händel     Composer     Germany     170

George Wilhelm Friedrich Hegel     Philosopher     Germany     165

George Berkeley     Philosopher     Ireland     190

George H. Choueiri     A.C.E Leader     Lebanon     195

George Eliot (Mary Ann Evans)     Writer     England     160

George Sand (Amantinr Aurore Lucile Dupin)     Writer     France     150

George Walker Bush     President     USA     125

George Washington     President     USA     118

Gottfried Wilhelm von Leibniz     philospher / scientist / lawyer     Germany     205

Hans Dolph Lundgren     Actor     Sweden     160

Hans Christian Andersen     writer / poet     Denmark     145

Hillary Diane Rodham Clinton     US Politician     USA     140

Hjalmar Horace Greeley Schacht     President of the Reichsbank / Nazi Officer     Germany     143

Honoré de Balzac (Honore Balzac)     Writer / novelist     France     155

Hugo Grotius (Huig De Groot)     Jurist     Holland     200

Hypatia of Alexandria     Philosopher & mathematician     Alexandria     170

Immanuel Kant     Philosopher     Germany     175

Sir Isaac Newton     Scientist     England     190

Jakob Ludwig Felix Mendelssohn Bartholdy     Composer     Germany     165

James Cook     Explorer     England     160

James Watt     Physicist & technician     Scotland     165

James Howard Woods     Actor     USA     180

Jayne Mansfield     

--

    USA     149

Jean Marie Auel     Writer     Finland/ America     140

Jodie Foster     Actor     USA     132

Johann Sebastian Bach     Composer     Germany     165

Johann Strauss     Composer     Germany     170

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe     

--

    Germany     210

Johannes Kepler     Mathematician, physicist & astronomer     Germany     175

John Adams     President     USA     137

John F. Kennedy     Ex-President     USA     117

John H. Sununu     Chief of Staff for President Bush     USA     180

John Quincy Adams     President     USA     153

John Stuart Mill     Universal Genius     England     200

JohnLocke     Philosopher     England     165

Jola Sigmond     Teacher     Sweden     161

Jonathan Swift     Writer & theologian     England     155

Joseph Haydn     Composer     Austria     160

Joseph Louis Lagrange     Mathematician & astronomer     Italy/France     185

Judith Polgar     Chess player     Hungary     170

Kim Ung-Yong     

--

    Korea     200

Kimovitch Garry Kasparov     Chess player     Russia     190

Leonardo da Vinci     Universal Genius     Italy     220

Lord Byron     Poet & writer     England     180

Louis Napoleon Bonaparte     Emperor     France     145

Ludwig van Beethoven     Composer     Germany     165

Ludwig Wittgenstein     Philosopher     Austria     190

Madame de Stael     Novelist & philosopher     France     180

Madonna     Singer     USA     140

Marilyn vos Savant     Writer     USA     186

Martin Luther     Theorist     Germany     170

Miguel de Cervantes     Writer     Spain     155

Nicolaus Copernicus     Astronomer     Poland     160

Nicole Kidman     Actor     USA     132

Paul Allen     Microsoft cofounder     USA     160

Philip Emeagwali     Mathematician     Nigeria     190

Phillipp Melanchthon     Humanist & theologian     Germany     190

PierreSimon de Laplace     Astronomer & mathematician     France     190

Plato     Philosopher     Greece     170

Ralph Waldo Emerson     Writer     USA     155

Raphael     Artist     Italy     170

Rembrandt van Rijn     Artist     Holland     155

Ren Descartes     Mathematician & philosopher     France     185

Richard Nixon     Ex-President     USA     143

Richard Wagner     Composer     Germany     170

Robert Byrne     Chess Player     Irland     170

Rousseau     Writer     France     150

Sarpi     Councilor & theologian & historian     Italy     195

Shakira     Singer     Colombia     140

Sharon Stone     Actress     USA     154

Sofia Kovalevskaya     Mathematician & writer     Sweden/Russia     170

Stephen W. Hawking     Physicist     England     160

Thomas Chatterton     Poet & writer     England     180

Thomas Jefferson     President     USA     138

Thomas Wolsey     Politician     England     200

Truman Cloak     

--

    

--

    165

Ulysses S. Grant     President     USA     110

Voltaire     Writer     France     190

William James Sidis     

--

    USA     200

William Pitt (the Younger)     Politician     England     190

Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart     Composer     Austria     165

 

I had a licensed psychologist who administered these tests tell me if you scored in the mid 130s you were still in the top 1/10 of 1% of the adult population. 

Looking at those scores though, they may come from different tests that have different scoring ranges. 

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