strocube Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Sorry guys, but Obama is just another corporate stooge, same as Romney, the robber baron parasite, and shrub the monkey boy. He is an employee of the corporate state. Whatever differences exist between them are all about form and rhetoric; content is essentially the same. "There is hardly a campaign promise from 2008 that Obama has not broken. This list includes his pledges to support the public option in health care, close Guantanamo, raise the minimum wage, regulate Wall Street, support labor unions in their struggles with employers, reform the Patriot Act, negotiate an equitable peace between the Israelis and the Palestinians, curb our imperial expansion in the Middle East, stop torture, protect reproductive rights, carry out a comprehensive immigration reform, cut the deficit by half, create 5 million new energy jobs and halt home foreclosures. Obama, campaigning in South Carolina in 2007, said that as president he would fight for the right of collective bargaining. “I’d put on a comfortable pair of shoes myself, I’ll … walk on that picket line with you as president of the United States of America,” he said. But when he got his chance to put on those “comfortable pair of shoes” during labor disputes in Madison, Wis., and Chicago he turned his back on working men and women." -Hedges http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/how_do_you_take_your_poison_20120924/ 1 Quote Link to comment
Snick Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 That's the line people said about Gore vs Bush. Even if you do think Obama is a stooge (and I don't) and evil, their is a whole order of magnitude between his evilness and Romney's 2 Quote Link to comment
strocube Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 That's the line people said about Gore vs Bush. Even if you do think Obama is a stooge (and I don't) and evil, their is a whole order of magnitude between his evilness and Romney's Perhaps, yet he remains the quintessential "lesser of two evils."And in my view, only in form, not content. I FUCKING REFUSE to play this bullshit game anymore. I don't give a rat's ass who gets "elected" as a consequence. If more people would wake up and not buy into this non-choice that the corporate state has presented us with, then maybe we might get some actual representaion, instead of corporate stooge A or corporate stooge B. I think it was Gore Vidal who said, in the U.S we have one party with two right wings. 1 Quote Link to comment
SiamSam Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Hmmmmmm, perhaps it is time to remove the sheet and dust off the guillotine. Quote Link to comment
Kahuna Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I FUCKING REFUSE to play this bullshit game anymore. I don't give a rat's ass who gets "elected" as a consequence. I've spent nearly all of my adult life with the "rat's ass" attitude...Not that I was ever political, but it just didn't seem that anything changed much in my life when parties changed in the White House or the State House... Early on when I was registered to vote I didn't want to join either party cause neither party would give me free beer...What in the hell kinda party is that...So I brought my own beer and sat independently in the corner...It was lonely at times... Now after more than 40 years of not voting, I decided that I was gonna register to vote...And so I did...And I joined a party...Still no free beer...But I'm used to sitting alone and buying my own after all these years...And while the party doesn't send me free beer it does send me gobs of emails and the State sends me gobs of voter ID cards and voting guides and like stuff...Gobs of money for one little vote... I didn't have any passion when I gave up my vote years ago...I was just apathetic...I didn't much care if Goldwater beat Johnson back then...And I didn't have much passion when I registered to vote online the other day...Just some free time to play on my computer... But you appear to be filled with a great deal of passion for this political stuff...How can you just give up? While I don't agree with your thoughts, it seems to me that it would be a real shame to see your kind of passion die... Now I'm gonna go back and sit on my fence again... 1 Quote Link to comment
strocube Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Well Kahuna, if I were in the U.S. come voting time, which I will not, then I would go and vote for the Green Party or perhaps the Socialist Party, knowing full that neither of them have a chance in hell of getting elected. Wtf good will that do? None, right? Unfortunately, it looks like things will have to get MUCH worse before people wake up and put and end to this shit, just like the students did in Quebec, and the people did in Iceland. Quebec student uprising victory: http://www.socialistproject.ca/bullet/699.php Iceland: http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/?p=48944 1 Quote Link to comment
Lefty Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 You know the abortion issue is SUCH a HUGE red herring. Even if The Supreme Court REPEALED the Roe v Wade decision 9-0, the decision on abortion would revert back the the STATES!!! That would mean you could still get an abortion in many states in the union. WHOOOOOP DEEEEE DOOOOOO!!! The US would be better off if abortions were mandatory for all Republicans. Quote Link to comment
Lefty Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 That's the line people said about Gore vs Bush. Even if you do think Obama is a stooge (and I don't) and evil, their is a whole order of magnitude between his evilness and Romney's I totally agree. Many of things that Obama promised but hasn't done has been due to his constant struggle with the Republican obstructionist congress. He is not perfect but he is a million times better than Romney, who is basically Dubya on steroids. Quote Link to comment
deepthroat Posted October 25, 2012 Share Posted October 25, 2012 Perhaps, yet he remains the quintessential "lesser of two evils."And in my view, only in form, not content. I FUCKING REFUSE to play this bullshit game anymore. I don't give a rat's ass who gets "elected" as a consequence. If more people would wake up and not buy into this non-choice that the corporate state has presented us with, then maybe we might get some actual representaion, instead of corporate stooge A or corporate stooge B. I think it was Gore Vidal who said, in the U.S we have one party with two right wings. Is that apathy, or cynicism? I cannot tell them apart sometimes. "The price of apathy toward public affairs is to be ruled by evil men." - Plato Quote Link to comment
thaibound Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 Well Kahuna, if I were in the U.S. come voting time, which I will not, then I would go and vote for the Green Party or perhaps the Socialist Party, knowing full that neither of them have a chance in hell of getting elected. Wtf good will that do? None, right? i feel (and agree with) your frustration, but unfortunately it does make a difference. way back in 2000 when bush stole the election from gore, it came down to nader pulling away so many votes from gore that bush got close enough to have his buddies in the supreme court steal it entirely. hard to rewrite history but if the mealy-mouthed, extremely boring, dead-center gore had carried his own frigging home state and gotten elected, the usa would *never* have gone to war in iraq (whether it might have dodged 9/11 altogether by having a defense department read their own white papers we'll never know) and we wouldn't have a blatantly right-wing supreme court now that considers corporations people when it comes to buying votes but not when it comes to paying taxes, dodges any issue of torture, patriot act repression, or any case that might bring any of the status quo into doubt -- and is on the edge of turning over roe vs wade. and if prez romney gets to appoint a justice, that will happen almost to a certainty. and if it does, while it's true that women will be free to travel across state lines on their own dime to pay for their abortions, the millions who can't afford to drop one large for overnight, interstate travel and uninsured medical care will be de facto prevented from having abortions. and with the concurrent ending of governement support and subsidy for family planning or birth control--there are gonna be more young, poor, single women than ever before in the usa desperately desiring an abortion. and while women anxious to become pregnant will lose the right to attempt in vitro fertilization, they can sleep easy knowing that if they become pregnant by being brutally raped -- they not only can, but they must, have the rapist's baby -- and in that, they will have no say. and that *is* a difference. Quote Link to comment
JaiDee Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 FOX - news for dumb people in states no one cares about Quote Link to comment
SiamSam Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 I thought it was 33 CE. Quote Link to comment
Kahuna Posted October 28, 2012 Share Posted October 28, 2012 FOX - news for dumb people in states no one cares about Would one of those States be Mitt's Mass JD? Somebody up there must be watching Fox... How in the hell did he ever get elected Governor of Massachusetts? I always thought it was a liberal's paradise... Quote Link to comment
JaiDee Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 But notice they are and always have been a Blue state; it's his "home state" [one of 5 or 6] and he can't even pull it in 2012. That's pretty sad. To be honest I have no idea how he won the Governership in Mass.......I live less than an hour from Boston and trust me, it's one of the most heavily democratic, liberal states in the nation and home to 5 generations of the Kennedy family. 1972; Nixon V McGovern, a landslide won by the Republican Nixon, 49 states to one. Which was the only state ol' Tricky Dick did NOT win? Quote Link to comment
JaiDee Posted October 28, 2012 Author Share Posted October 28, 2012 Here ya' go, very timely article to continue this thread......as has been reported before, people who watch that farcical network tend to be LESS informed than people who watch NO news at all! No wonder they are right-wingers..... http://www.salon.com/2012/10/28/aaron_james_excerpt/ 1 Quote Link to comment
ArchieBunker Posted October 30, 2012 Share Posted October 30, 2012 The US would be better off if abortions were mandatory for all Republicans. This is absolutely lovely. It shows the intolerance of the supposed "tolerant". LOL!!! Quote Link to comment
deepthroat Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 This is absolutely lovely. It shows the intolerance of the supposed "tolerant". LOL!!! Specious argument at best there Arch. Republicans don't give a damn about "tolerance" so don't expect us to when we're talking about the other party. Quote Link to comment
deepthroat Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 News media is starting to jump on this story, which still won't get nearly as much coverage as it should. At one of his “storm relief events,” on Tuesday, GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney repeatedly refused to answer questions about his promise to eliminate FEMA, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (video below), reports RawStory.com. FEMA provides federal government relief to disasters such as Hurricane Sandy, which has killed 44 people and caused between $50 and $30 million worth of destruction on the east coast. Today, a reporter shouted to Romney: “Governor are you going to eliminate FEMA?” but received no response. Another reporter asked “Gov. are you going to see some storm damage? Gov. has Chris Christie invited you to come survey storm damage? Gov. you’ve been asked 14 times, why are you refusing to answer the question?” Romney had pledged to abolish the Federal Emergency Management Agency back in June of this year during a GOP debate. When asked about FEMA funding, Romney said at the debate: "And every time you have an occasion to take something from the federal government and send it back to the states, that’s the right direction. And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that’s even better… We cannot, we cannot afford to do those things. And if you can go even further and send it back to the private sector, that’s even better." Meanwhile Gov. Christie of New Jersey basically tells Fox News to fuck off when they try to downplay his effusive praise for President Obama and redirect the conversation to somehow getting Mittens some disaster-relief cred: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIsEXWpv7MM Does Christie see the handwriting on the wall- that the GOP will implode between now and 2016 due to its unsustainable teabaggy+fundie kook craziness ? Perhaps he's starting a long game of playing for the moderate-right "sensible survivors" that emerge out of that implosion. He has to have his eyes on running in 2016, and this strategy could play very well. I would look forward to seeing a respectable non-kook GOP return to the field. Quote Link to comment
deepthroat Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Romney's phony grin looks like it's about to crack on a couple different occasions, but he keeps it up for the duration, like the brave little question-dodging soldier he is. What a hero! The relevant part starts forty seconds in: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8diliyB8CI Quote Link to comment
pdogg Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Meanwhile Gov. Christie of New Jersey basically tells Fox News to fuck off when they try to downplay his effusive praise for President Obama and redirect the conversation to somehow getting Mittens some disaster-relief cred: I really like what the directness of this Christie dude. Christie has no time for a candidate touring flooded areas since a candidate can't do shit to help the situation. Now I strongly prefer Obama to Romney, but one thing Romney would probably be good at is a swift response to emergencies. Think Bush really dragged his feet during Katrina though it is tough to execute in crisis. Quote Link to comment
pdogg Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 What a hero! Please don't tell me the Mittster is showing pics that were posted on LBR! I do detest the phto op of Romney loading the truck. Smacks of phoney baloney. Quote Link to comment
SiamSam Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Thank Goodness us Canucks have the Queen. Quote Link to comment
pdogg Posted October 31, 2012 Share Posted October 31, 2012 Gov. Christie of New Jersey Obama just landed in Atlantic City and was greeted by Christie. Obama seems to be handling the crisis well. The States hit hard by Sandy are going for Obama anyway but the nationwide television coverage of this crisis should help the POTUS. Quote Link to comment
Snick Posted November 1, 2012 Share Posted November 1, 2012 Obama's number on intrade.com shot up the last 2 days. Normally I can't stand Christie, but he is earning some respect this week. Quote Link to comment
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