Rom Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 A couple days ago a transgender woman was for the first time allowed to enter the Miss Portugal contest and she won it. She is very attractive and I am all for transgenders but I think it is wrong that they are allowed to compete in competitions with born-women where having been born a man tends to be an advantage. Be it beauty pageants or athletics. In this case the Miss Portugal winner besides being a tranny was also much older (28) than the GGs some of whom were patently more attractive and more feminine in the pageant's classical sense of beauty (that excludes fat chics and much older women). As hot as she is, the tranny won because of the novelty and shock factors and the press it will generate and a desire to show inclusion despite it being at the expense of the rest of the candidates. (The news reports say she "enchanted the audience with her personality and answers to the questions"). In sports it's even more unfair and if transgenders are allowed to compete the GGs and their world-records will quickly be obliterated from competition by second tier male athletes opportunistically declaring themselves transgenders. What do you all BMs think ? It seems that prior to the Miss Portugal, the Miss Netherlands 2023 is also a transwoman (and there was also a Miss Spain 2018). Miss Netherlands is younger than Miss Portugal but IMHO not nearly as attractive. I will say no more and call on @Dan Miller (the Dutch BM with the rainbow flag for the avatar) to introduce her and tell us what he thinks. In the meantime, here is my Miss Portugal 2023--Marina Machete: 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zeppie Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 With the pills, cosmetics, surgeries and wigs.........heck even you rom could look good............ as for men competing in girls events, its just plan wrong, and worse the media shoves it in your faces. Freedom is great and is a right. Ideology is destructive and divisive. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HectorSonOfTroy Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 33 minutes ago, Zeppie said: With the pills, cosmetics, surgeries and wigs.........heck even you rom could look good............ as for men competing in girls events, its just plan wrong, and worse the media shoves it in your faces. Freedom is great and is a right. Ideology is destructive and divisive. Absolutely right, sir! What doping is in sport, is cosmetic surgery in beauty contest... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HectorSonOfTroy Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 3 hours ago, Rom said: A couple days ago a transgender woman was for the first time allowed to enter the Miss Portugal contest and she won it. She is very attractive and I am all for transgenders but I think it is wrong that they are allowed to compete in competitions with born-women where having been born a man tends to be an advantage. Be it beauty pageants or athletics. In this case the Miss Portugal winner besides being a tranny was also much older (28) than the GGs some of whom were patently more attractive and more feminine in the pageant's classical sense of beauty (that excludes fat chics and much older women). As hot as she is, the tranny won because of the novelty and shock factors and the press it will generate and a desire to show inclusion despite it being at the expense of the rest of the candidates. (The news reports say she "enchanted the audience with her personality and answers to the questions"). In sports it's even more unfair and if transgenders are allowed to compete the GGs and their world-records will quickly be obliterated from competition by second tier male athletes opportunistically declaring themselves transgenders. What do you all BMs think ? It seems that prior to the Miss Portugal, the Miss Netherlands 2023 is also a transwoman (and there was also a Miss Spain 2018). Miss Netherlands is younger than Miss Portugal but IMHO not nearly as attractive. I will say no more and call on @Dan Miller (the Dutch BM with the rainbow flag for the avatar) to introduce her and tell us what he thinks. In the meantime, here is my Miss Portugal 2023. I agree with you, sir! I can't compare sausage to sushi! I loke both, but not on the same plate. In Germany i enjoy the taste of sushi, in Thailand i only want sausage... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HectorSonOfTroy Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Just now, HectorSonOfTroy said: I agree with you, sir! I can't compare sausage to sushi! I loke both, but not on the same plate. In Germany i enjoy the taste of sushi, in Thailand i only want sausage... * "I LIKE both..." 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barforth Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I can't see a problem with a TS entering a beauty contest surely her male genes would put her at a disadvantage. Maybe the Miss Portugal winner did have a great personality, it's rarely the most beautiful one who wins. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Miller Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I already posted about Miss Netherlands before: Have to agree on Miss Portugal being much prettier There will always be the discussion whether these girls would have won when they had been not a teans girl ... positive discrimination, equality and shit. But Miss Netherlands got a huge shit load of negativism over her after winning the contest. So far for my 'openminded and progressive' country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The-Sith Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 all I can say is that the fellow BMs on this Forum are decades ahead of their time. currently it's cool to be trans. In about 10 years....it's going to be cool to have a trans girlfriend. It will be promoted in media and movies as the politically correct and avante garde thing to do. Guess what? The Sith has been down with trans women way back when lesbian porn started becoming cool. And I was banging Asian women decades before it became a fashionable thing for white men in the West to do. And when it becomes cool to have trans girlfriends..... the best ones will flock to the guys who are doing it because they love it.....not to all the pretenders doing it to look fashionable or for the novelty (as Rom describes it). I'm always hearing from trans women in America how comfortable they are with me because I don't "fetishize" them..... I don't treat them as a "novelty" and know exactly what they like and have true chemistry and respect for them and the amazing humans that they are. I learned that from fucking dozens and hundreds of trans women in Asia and around the world. And you know what? That gets me super hot trans girlfriend pussy over the past several years in the West. I showed Dan some pictures. So I look forward to the next 20 years as trans women become coveted just like we saw Asian women become coveted. Because those hot babes will be monopolized by the lads on this site. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulci Gorgon Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 I agree 100 % with the OP. Trans women should have their separate competition either beauty pageants or sport competitions In Sport, it's obvious that their male origine gives them an advantage. I haven't heard of this Miss Portugal but don't find her as pretty as what I expect from a miss in a European country. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barforth Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 19 minutes ago, Pulci Gorgon said: I agree 100 % with the OP. Trans women should have their separate competition either beauty pageants or sport competitions In Sport, it's obvious that their male origine gives them an advantage. I haven't heard of this Miss Portugal but don't find her as pretty as what I expect from a miss in a European country. I don't comprehend how it gives them an advantage in beauty competitions just the opposite I'd have thought. Ok maybe the first time they get preferential treatment for politics but that is surely not a valid reason to exclude them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodie Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 3 hours ago, Pulci Gorgon said: I haven't heard of this Miss Portugal but don't find her as pretty as what I expect from a miss in a European country. Same here, but each to their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulci Gorgon Posted October 10, 2023 Share Posted October 10, 2023 22 hours ago, barforth said: I don't comprehend how it gives them an advantage in beauty competitions just the opposite I'd have thought. Ok maybe the first time they get preferential treatment for politics but that is surely not a valid reason to exclude them. Because judges are gay. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Posted November 19, 2023 Author Share Posted November 19, 2023 Just to update on the outcome of the Miss Universe contest held last night: The Portuguese transwoman made it to the final 20 (the first cut) which was Portugal's second best finish ever. Miss Netherlands did not. The winner was Miss Nicaragua who to me looks more like a tranny than the other 2. Here is a pic of her and 3 of Miss Portugal last night. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Miller Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Personally, I think miss Thailand was much more prettier than miss Nicaragua. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Posted November 19, 2023 Author Share Posted November 19, 2023 Yes Miss Thailand looks more attractive and I am sure many of the other Misses were too but I did not watch the pageant to pick any of them in particular. The winner Miss Nicaragua is very elegant but I don't find her face especially beautiful and it looks like she had some surgery which to me is a turn off. Many of the other Misses also routinely have some surgery, including some say Miss Portugal but I don't really see the evidence of that. Her face is feminine imperfect in some regards and that's to me where her beauty resides. Besides Miss Portugal and Miss Netherlands, there was another outlier: BBW Miss Nepal. Question for BMs: If you could fuck 1 of these 4 contestants in what order would you rank them? Miss Nicaragua the Winner Miss Nepal the BBW Miss Portugal the soft tranny Miss Netherlands the athletic tranny ???? I would pick Miss Portugal without hesitation, but I am biased by national affinity. In second place I think I would pick Miss Netherlands but only because fucking a young non-prosti white European tranny seems like such an impossible treat for me. If I had to pick between Miss Nepal and a beautiful TH or PH tranny, I would pick Miss Nepal because I've had more than my share of beautiful Asian trannies. This means I would definitely pick the curvy Miss Nepal over Miss Nicaragua. BUT if Miss Nicaragua who to me looks like a surgically-enhanced tranny had a dick I would pick her in second place after Miss Portugal? What about other BMs? I realize most might not even be interested in the 2 GGs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Miller Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 7 minutes ago, Rom said: If you could fuck 1 of these 4 contestants in what order would you rank them? Miss Nicaragua the Winner Miss Nepal the BBW Miss Portugal the soft tranny Miss Netherlands the athletic tranny Well Rom, that's not too difficult for me. Last place definitely goes to miss Nepal. Although she's a pretty face, BBW simply doesn't rock my boat. Miss Nicaragua would earn the bronze spot. Lovely body, but something undefineable is off in her face. But if I had the chance, definitely would do her anyway. Although I'm proud to be Dutch, miss Netherlands would come 2nd. Beautiful tgirl, wouldn't mind a nice encounter with her at all. Miss Portugal is my favorite. Don't think much explanation needed, look at her 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdoggg Posted November 19, 2023 Share Posted November 19, 2023 Just now, Rom said: What about other BMs? Based on the pics in the above post I'd order them Portugal, Netherlands, Nicaragua, Nepal. But based on other pics I'd go for Netherlands over Portugal. It's close though. Miss Nicaragua must have tremendous grace and style because she certainly does not look like the most beautiful woman in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rom Posted November 19, 2023 Author Share Posted November 19, 2023 12 hours ago, Pdoggg said: But based on other pics I'd go for Netherlands over Portugal. It's close though. It's interesting you said that. Because nationality considerations aside, Miss Netherlands is very much more my sissy type than Miss Portugal. She is taller and skinnier and flat chested and has that you-can-tell-it's-a-boy look I so much prefer. She is also younger. If both were available to me in bikinis in a bar like in Thailand, I would probably go for Miss Netherlands who I can only guess has a harder, longer, hormones free cock than Miss Portugal. But there is something about Miss Portugal that attracts me for the feminine side more than the chick-with-a-dick factor. It's something I feel rarely but sometimes with feminine ladyboys such as Bon Bar's Anny who I am crazy about more than perhaps most mongers would credit her curvy beauty for. In some of the pics Miss Netherlands does not come across so hot, in others she does (see below). Go figure. But I think in the Miss Universe contest if the jury had to pick one trans to make it past the general round, Miss Portugal was the obvious choice based on femininity. As you can see in the pic below, Miss Netherlands looks more manly but Miss Portugal is also not a perfect beauty and seems to have one eye narrower than the other which actually gives her a seductive gaze. Perhaps that's what makes her so attractive: the look of the cute girl next door who happens to have a cock or at least I hope so since she and the press are mute about whether she is a pre-op or a postie... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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