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Just a taste of what is to CUM at Why Not Bangkok when we open next month , be warned they are hungry!!!!!! You have been warned

for the Sunny fans..taken before her haircut... no more for a while then! picture downloaded by Jimmy Cargo from Sunny's facebook thing. sad.really, that the hair has gone.

Holly shoots ! You are twisting yourself in knots with nothing. Why worry so much for expats ? You are trying to make a whole theory since the Thai government creating a new retiree visa to attract better off people. Are you concerned by this new visa ? Do yçou fear a previous visa you thought you would use later is likely to disappear, what would threaten your projects ? Take it easy and think of your fun next time you will be fishing your 3 legs girlfriends. I felt like commenting a couple situations I knew but it's none of my business. Some people including ladyboys mongers chose to invest in real estate in Thailand, either a condo in Pattaya or a farm in Issan. Other people decided not to, either they have enough money or not, but WTF ? IMHO an expat has no better aura than a cheap charlie. We are supposed to share about ladyboys in community forums but we chat more and more of old men's business; have we become that old ?

Warias are Indonesian ladyboy/shemale. While the country votednew laws to crack down homosexuality and sex between unmarried people, I have found a few cute (amateur) videos that I'd like to remember. Indonesia is a large country and I don't know where these warias live. Never mind, enjoy. Waria1.mp4

An interesting topic (for a change). Thailand wants everybody to come, from the wealthy down to chinese mass tourism. There's everything here, from exclusive beach resorts down to backpacker hostels. Same with restaurants. Same with bars and nightlife. I can't see it changing anytime soon: high-rise, high density hotels and condos are still being built in Bangkok and Pattaya by the hundred! As for visas: there's always been the Elite visa for the wealthy, and there's always been the easy to obtain 30 day visa. Can't see that changing anytime soon. The mass markets from India and China will be needed to fill all those places, while the wealthy can go off to an island resort. As for mongering: Patong's Bangla Road changed to a clubby-type scene with high prices, but the girls were still loitering in the street waiting for just about anybody. The same has happened in Walking Street. Soi Burkhao is going the same way, with absurd rents attracting wealthy investors. But the girls are still waiting outside, along the street. Some in the govt want to chase the high-worth individuals, but at the same time market forces will prevail. All those people in their 30 sq m hotel rooms/condos will still be here and will continue to be catered to. Will the cheap-charlie western expats/retirees still come? It'll be interesting to see. During Covid, they've discovered that there are actually other places where they can enjoy sun, sand, sea, and sex. "Our" lot will likely still come, as we prefer the more petite feminine form, but we constitute a tiny proportion of visitors to LoS. There is a requirement already in place to have 800k baht on deposit for a retirement visa, but in typical thai fashion, there are "ways around" that. Has always been the case, and will always remain so, no matter what the govt tries to do. I think the recovery will be long and slow, but nothing much will change here. Not in our lifetimes anyway!

"What do you all think ? how much time do we have to enjoy Thailand on the cheap ?" Well, I think those times have - more or less - ended already even before the pandemic started, especially in the tourist trap bars in Bangkok's RLDs [emoji20] In the ladyboy world this wasn't perhaps as apparent as in the GG universe. Pre-pandemic, even some at best average looking Thai GG girls of Soi Cowboy and Nana Plaza were demanding big money for their services (if they were willing to go with farang customers at all). Guess there will be a year or two after the restart of the sex tourist business, where the girls will be desperate enough to go for less money than before covid. But wait until after the tourist business is back in full swing and the good (i.e., cheap) days will be over again pretty soon. I think that doesn't mean there won't be any prostitutes around anymore looking for farang boyfriends for the night or week. But I'd say you will more and more often see girls from poorer neighboring countries, such as Laos and Myanmar and less and less Thai girls. As for the ladyboy sex business, I think there'll be enough Thai ladyboys around for quite some time. Their options in the regular economy are still limited and I don't see that changing anytime soon. Until they have better chances getting into good, regular jobs, there'll be enough lbs around in the short run, perhaps even the medium term. Those are my thoughts... [emoji3456]

https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/international/2021/09/21/thailand-urged-not-to-deport-trans-woman-charged-in-malaysia/

Sunny in Dubai now. She look good.

Ladyboy issues

Cait O'Riordan with The Pogues. Traditional song - despite some people citing The Pogues as originators ! I used to go out with a fat lass who did an excellent version of this. !

I can't imagine the Pattaya Sandbox/Playpen has the remotest chance of being implemented. Too difficult and easily "circumvented" on production of a crisp 1,000 baht note. No chance. Barmy idea suggested by a desperate barowner.

Given the choice, a beautiful young Thai GG or LB would choose a twentysomething guy with KPop good looks who drives a Ferrari and is hung like a Brazilian travesti instead of a LBR member. It does make sense to make it easier for farang of means under 50 to stay in Thailand without jumping through multiple hoops. But it will not be easy for Thailand to attract these farangs. Thailand's best bet is to target the Chinese. Perhaps the first step is to push the bars to the other side of 2nd Road or even across 3rd Road to really get them out of sight. Put a big splashy casino on Beach Road or Bali Hai that you can get to by monorail. But Thailand won't turn into Singapore overnight and the HiSo Thais will resist wealth distribution so hooking up with mongers will still be an attractive option for farm fresh Thai girls. If not, mongers will have the Philippines, Cambodia, Vietnam, and Bali which should all take longer to gentrify.

So, I am one of these blokes to be got rid of, I guess. I'm no millionaire, but over the 12 years I've lived here I've put around 50,000 baht a month into the local economy. And some of it is very local, not all to the hi-so companies, but rather to local markets and tradespeople. And tax is taken from the bank interest I earn as well. Right now I think Thailand would be happy, financially speaking, to have blokes like us living here. By the time the country finds it's feet again I will probably have gone in the local temple crematorium, thereby contibuting again to the local economy on my way out.

Go right now for jab. No shower, just get your ass there ASAP. Bring passport.

QG...get a mouse. get one now, you can always use it on your new laptop. much easier than all that keyboard stuff. then just watch that 2 minutes tutorial i sent you recently. a mouse by the way ...i don't mean a little rodent... it's a plastic thing. Not from the pet shop... get yourself sorted man... finally!

Here you go , BBG.

Some pictures from last night's livestream. Thank you for all supporters . See you next livestream on sunday 26th.

The first vid just makes it through the 'Irish Folky Door' as it was recorded in County Clare. Carl Barat (who he you may ask) is the sparring partner of Pete Docherty of the band 'Babyshambles/Libertines'. My chum and ex business partner appears in the film as 'the father' - baldy head and bushy beard. He's appeared in many TV movies usually playing an Irish drunk or corpse - as in 'The Whitechapel Murders' with Dublin standing in for victorian London. We had a Saddlery/Leather workshop in the UK for over 5 years but I had to move on and thanks to that bitch Thatcher got a job back in the print trade. My chum followed his dream and went to live in Ireland - play his banjo and drink Guinness - both of them badly. ! The village where he lives in County Clare is 'Lisdoonvarna' - Famous for it's yearly event of 'Matchmaking' - nothing to do with 'Swan Vestas' - but single people seeking other singles. The town of some 800 people swells to over 40,000 at this event. There used to be a music festival but this was discontinued in 1983 when the event was marred by a riot and the accidental drowning of 8 people. (You coudn't make this up). Anyway back to the music - Christy Moore (him again) wrote a song called ---- "Lisdoonvarna' Phew !

Hello everyone. On Tuesday Night Sep 21st , Emmy's Bar will have a live stream at 10 p.m thai time. Theme Kittens costome choice. Come and have fun with us. I will post livestream on my personal Facebook page as follows. - My Facebook https://www.facebook.com/tutu.wattanasiri -Page facebook Emmy's bar https://www.facebook.com/Emmybarladyboy Website : LBR (Here) You can support us via paypal. Only € 3.5 or 120 Baht for 1 drink Pay at this link http://paypal.me/KattyRoomforRent or My Paypal = tutubas85@gmail.com Even if you are not in the mood to buy drinks i am happy that you watch the show and visit Emmy's Bar when you comeback. The kittens and myself hope to meet you all one day Thank you very much for support us Hope to See you all Emmy and the kittens.

I am probably the odd one out in all this , This house I have built up here is in my name same as the car , bike , tractor and equipment. The farm land I will never own, I knew about the land way before deciding to move here . I know other expats that have made the same move as me up here and have all done the same thing. Lazy people take the easy way out.... cut and run

I am living on 1000 a day, rent included, during Covid times and I have a bigger and nicer place than the average Pattaya expat. Once things get back to normal my spending will go up a bit. But a farang on only a 20K (or less) a month budget could live at the CCR for 5000 a month in a very small studio on the wrong side of 3rd Road. The nice new building is only about a 5 minute or so walk from Soi Pothole and has an impressive gym and pool. https://www.thailand-property.com/condo-for-sale-or-rent-in-city-center-residence-bang-lamung-chonburi_5029074 My missus built a house for her Mom using her own money. She paid as construction progressed, foundation, shell, inside etc. They already had the land. For those who like a quieter life, living upcountry is a good option. If farang hab money, no reason not to help out his girlfriend's family if he can do that without jeopardizing his financial security. But best do do a little at a time, not in one big chunk.

I am so happy I have made the move up here with only one regret. Because of covid I did not get to travel back to Australia to see my Dad in his last days and not get to attend his funeral. With savings ( no monthly pension) and investments here and Australia, I will never get to spend all .The money I have spent to set myself up by buying some farms and equipment ( soon to purchase another) and my house, was all up to me . People are so quick to judge before knowing the facts with some jealousy thrown in the mix , we are not all the same . Most fail from stupidity or are easily lead astray . If I didn't have Dao before moving to Thailand I would still be far away from the beaches and glamour of Thailand, farms and jungle are way more nicer to live than a shoebox with someone living right on your doorstep and all you have to look at is another Condo or high rise.

Last year I posted that Thailand mongering would not be the same after Covid-19, not so much because of Covid itself but because of ongoing demographic and income trends in Thailand that will progressively make cheap eager prostitutes (and menial laborers in general) a thing of the past. Covid, once its over, would just provide a convenient timing for the Thai authorities to reform its farang-oriented sex industry since it all but closed in 2020-21 so the desruption is already there if changes are to be made. Going forward, I prognosticated, there is only one direction: UPSCALE WHORES and HIGHER-VALUE MONGERS. Seems I was on to something. The Thai authorities just announced a VIP sexpat visa for wealthy applicants with US$1 million in assets and annual income of US$80,000. Pensioners get a break and need only US$40,000 (which is actually not that high). But the point is that gone are the days when Thais were happy to attract low-income farangs coming to Thailand on a Cheap Charlie budget to enjoy the sex lives of rock stars without bringing much to the economy (unless of course they blew their life savings building houses in Issan in the name of their future ex-es...) The Thai authorities say they want to attract "1 million" such high-value expats over the next five years, which stands to reason will be at the expense of lower income applicants and perhaps even of sexpats already there who might not see their visas renewed. This will also serve for Thais to avoid having to deal with the otherwise expectable inflow of the Arab world and China-equivalent of the West's riff-raff, as all those Jordanians and mainlanders we have been seeing gaining ground on the bars over the past 20 years are also gonna want to retire in the company of cheap sluts. What do you all think ? how much time do we have to enjoy Thailand on the cheap ? Here is my source and a helpful chart they prepared: https://www.bangkokpost.com/thailand/general/2181775/govt-to-entice-rich-expats

Yes bar owners are my only true friends in Thailand.

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Kevin Rowland - he of the late Dexy's Midnight Runners - warbling 'Curragh of Kildare' - and showing off his 'Donegal Tweeds' ! Not. !

The EU created a sanitary pass that EU residents obtain after being vaccinated. Rules here decided that we would get our pass 1 week afetr the second injection. Now, the Ministry of health is adding rules to allow people who had been covid sick and received on injection o obtain the sanitary pass. Temporary sanitary passes were also granted to unvaccinated people who's had negative PCR test for 3 days or less. However, PCR tests are no longer free as they were last month. Each country can then decide how to use the "Sanitary pass". Here, no one is allowed to go to a bar, a restaurant, a movie theatre or many other places without his sanitary pass. The pass can be checked rapidly scanning the QR code either in the App in a smartphone or on a certificate printed on paper. This week, employees working in facilities opened to the public must have a sanitary pass to work. Although the law wouldn't allow a business to lay off an employee, many private employers threatened employees of being laid off if they wouldn't be vaccinated and this boosted the overall rate of vaccination of the population. This week, public hospitals and nursing hommes employees who still refused to be vaccinated had their work contract suspended in strict application of the law. I don't know if such sanitary passes exist in countries outside the EU but the norm could be copied and followed by other countries. This is what the Sandbox's idea makes me think.

I don't have anything like the familiarity with Irish music as Grunt - but the Pogues (already mentioned here) were my absolutely favourite band in the eighties. And this one (I picture myself with Quinn and a jug of whiskey doing a wild jig in bar to this with a very bewildered ladyboy!) ---

A few fetishes covered in this clip :)

Rom, sorry the first "we" was referring to the Thai authorities. You are saying that the Thais will price goods and services aimed at tourists specifically to deter the less wealthy tourist and concentrate on the wealthy ones. Well good luck to them on that one!. A countries wealth is dependent on a lot of things, but with Thailand they have what appears to be an even more stratified economy than most. A very rich top layer whose number is very small, and a very poor remainder. Doubt whether your theory would apply to them. The wealthy as in most countries ,want to keep the poor very poor. Scared maybe as to what a more wealthy and educated lower class could do to their standing. What you are suggesting would not help their cause. If a meal costs 100b but is then increased to 300 baht, where does the 200 baht go to?. By the way, you are welcome to pay the 300 baht for your meal, but if you are dining in the Hilton you would be paying more than that anyway!. If as it should, their currency falls to a level that it should be at, around 35 to 38 b to the USD, that may stir up the populace (who I feel sorry for), as it would lead to an increase in inflation, but it would help stimulate tourism when the borders open. If anyone on here can explain the level of the baht, please fire away. It is almost the 8th wonder of the world!. Just on a side note. I find that what appears to be a very low priority in Thailand in the teaching of English to a degree that would allow the young ones from Isaan etc., to be involved in tourism, very puzzling. The times where I have had trouble communicating with hotel staff is too many to be acceptable. Yes I know some of you would say why only English?. It just happens to be the almost universal language when travelling.

NOT "we" cherrypicking anything Woodie !!! It's the Thais who get to cherrypick farangs by welcoming the ones who spend more and phasing out the bargain hunters whose spending is no longer of much importance in view of Thailand's economic growth and whose continued presence may turn off the wealthier ones from coming and prevent the stated policy objective of turning Thailand into a high value destination. One BM says he "puts 50,000 baht a month into the local economy" which may be a lot for him, but for farangs earning US100,000+ a year it's pocket change and it's those farangs Thailand wants going forward... You might ask : why not continue to have both as Thailand has had for so long: the budget farangs who stay at 500 baht per night rooms and the quality farangs who stay at the expensive resorts? I think they will for the foreseeble future, but my whole point is that by instituting the new VIP visas it has to be seen as an official shift to high-value tourism that will go hand-in-hand with the demise of the world of cheap mongering we love so much. It's what happened in other countries in Asia (HK, Taiwan, Singapore, Korea, Japan a long time ago) where women used to be eager and plentiful and cost of living affordable and then those countries went upscale, including what remains of their sex industries... Let's just be glad we've enjoyed it for so long and that we still have more than a few good years left as I don't think Pattaya will turn into Cannes overnight ... But I do think it's going to be even faster downhill from now when it "reopens" and more than half the bars will remain closed, and the ones that open will have fewer staff, and prices inevitably have to go up...

Back in the day my town centre local was run by a great bloke called Don(al) - he was London Irish. We regularly had music nights there - very informal. A fairly regular drop in was Luke Kelly - usually when The Dubliners were playing the 'Soup in a Basket' circuit popular in the 60's/70's. Luke would chat and sing and shift the Guinness. Top Feller. !

I'm glad that you're enjoying it Bubba. Now here's a well known ditty, made famous by Thin Lizzy of course, but for now - The Dubliners and Luke Kelly: Whiskey in the Jar.

September 17th : Bảo Vy

Heart warming to hear this music after so many years. Brings tears to me oyes, it does. Remember having a debate with an opinionated English girl who maintained Dylan was not a true folk ballardist. Silly bint didn' realise "the Times they are a'changing". Where has all my vinyl collection gone? Probably in some old record shop or a garage that needs cleaning out the old man's "stuff".

Me thinks you want to be a guest lecturer at Bangkok Ladyboy University! Re the second category, Wealthy Pensioners, not sure why this is a better scheme that what is normally offered. The current Retirement Visa is a great deal at 1900 baht a year. The main inconvenience is that it must be renewed in a 30 day window at the same time every year. Currently a Retirement Visa holder must either keep 800K baht in a Thai bank, prove 65K baht a mont in pension income, or pay a fixer. Guys balk at 800K baht so 250K USD ( around 8 million Thai baht) is a hurdle. The government could keep the current system in place but do away with the age requirement and change pension income to any income. The article makes no mention of the visa fee. In the past the fee was an exorbitant amount, age restricted, and seemed to offer little benefit beyond the retirement visa. The retirement visa fee is quite low in Thailand compared to the Philippines and Cambodia. In Cambodia it is the equivalent of 10K baht. The current system for digital nomads is absurd, a system where every few months the nomads must do a border run in a death van. Would be more sensible to jack up the visa fee to cost of the death vans.

We had a funny guy with us in Korea. A tailgunner. They blew his brains out all over the Pacific. There's nothing funny about that!

Published on Wednesday, September 22, 2021 16:10 A Thai woman who had been tricked into being a sex worker in Dubai, a city on the Persian Gulf Coast of the United Arab Emirates, returned safely to Thailand, today. The woman was able to send a video message through Facebook on Sunday where she pleaded for help. She says she had been deceived by an advertisement looking for a masseuse. The woman’s video caught the nation’s attention and motivated PM Prayut Chan-o-cha to tell the Labour Ministry to work with the Royal Thai Embassy in Abu Dhabi to secure the woman’s return to Thailand. The embassy says they were able to locate the woman on Monday at 5:30pm. Labour Minister Suchart Chomklin says the victim, name withheld, left Dubai just before 3am and arrived at 12:30pm today. For the next 14 days, she will quarantine due to standard Covid measures. Suchart adds that the ministry will assist the woman in locating a job in Sa Kaeo, her hometown. He says officials will investigate and prosecute the responsible parties that trafficked the woman into the UAE. The woman says she was lured to Dubai by a woman she knew only as “Ms Lilly”. She says Ms Lilly invited her to Dubai to work as a masseuse at a spa and claimed she’d make up to 40,000 baht a month. When the victim got to Dubai on September 16, she says Ms Lilly instantly took possession of her passport and told her that she would be providing sexual services to the clients. The victim asked to go home but Ms Lilly said she would have to pay 70,000 baht to pay for the airline ticket and other fees, say officials. The victim then decided to release her video pleading for help. The video quickly went viral. Thai officials identified the victim’s location at a parlour in Dubai, which closed shortly after the officials found it. Ms Lilly agreed to give the victim back her passport and brought her to the Dubai International Airport. Suchart warns Thai citizens that if they want to work abroad, they must use the ministry’s help or use the service of a recruitment firm. He adds that they must also apply to be a member of the Labour Ministry’s overseas employment fund before they leave. https://thethaiger.com/news/world/thai-woman-tricked-into-human-trafficking-in-dubai-brought-home-safely

well now, there i was this afternoon playing on Youtube, and also thinking about QG and his Irish ancestry. Also pondering about how to amass a few points to help me get rid of this hated 'Rockstar with LB groupies' tag that's hanging around my neck like a stone. Anyway, all that pointed me in the direction of something i love...Irish bands and singers. I'm pretty much convinced and have been for years that the Irish accent is perfect for vocals. This comes from years ago in the 70s and 80s when i hung around with a part Irish band in London called 'Mantilla' so, this is my Irish music thread. Dedicated to all the Irish guys on here..BB, Ciobha, Kylemore et-al. Who for all i know may hate this stuff... but never mind. I start with the Dubliners, no doubt Liam Clancy won't be far behind. Please feel free to add to these.

Why Not can't open soon enough. That last pic is heartbreaking. Months of unemployment have left the dears with literally nothing to wear. C'mon you BKK LB monger gents, when the dress carts roll by in front of the bar be generous!

555 I mean she will plug in the power to charge the phone. If I write it wrong, I'm sorry. I'm not good at English.

Sorry, while livestream My phone's battery will run out. Teya will plug in the battery charger. But she touched the stop livestream button. So I had to start the livestream again. but no problem after that

Yes Sunny does have a sort of innocent vulnerable quality that makes one feel protective towards her. Not like any other ladyboys I've known.

Cute but would be a waste of time and resources. Off the bat, I can think of 5 overwhelming reasons: 1 - To cordon off Walking Street is impossible without a military style perimeter and enforcement. There are the 2 north and south (Beach Road) main entrances and then at least 5 sois coming from 2nd road and soi Arab. But what really makes it even harder is that many of the establishments on Walking Street have their own private exits to the back sois. Each door and open air bar would have to be monitored. Some (Thais) could disembark from the sea under the pillars of the seafront businesses. I have seen it from the Marine Disco balcony... Plus where would they draw the perimeter? Just along Walking Street? or all the way back to 2nd Road? If the latter, it would cover a lot of rooms crammed with bargirls and staff whose occupants cannot be denied access to their rooms regardless of covid status... 2 - More importantly: Pattaya tourism is about freedom to enjoy the wickedness and step over the lines we don't dare to back home. Who wants to be hassled with certificates and covid tests to go have a beer ? Nobody! the tourists are not going to come until they are free to roam... 3 - Arguably for the above reason, the Phuket Sandbox was a flop (https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/phuket-sandbox-scheme-for-covid-19-not-quite-the-resounding-success-as-expected) . What makes anyone think Pattaya would do any better ? 4 - From a public health perspective it's not worth the risk, especially having endured a year and half of closure, what's another 2 or 3 months ???... 5 - If you allow a Walking Street Sandbox, then they are going to want one in Buakhao, and then one in Jomtien, and why not Naklua? Not fair to channel business to some establishments while keeping others locked... If they do allow only Walking Street bars to operate, they will have the pick of all of Pattaya's hottest whores who will understandbly head there at the expense of the bars where they worked before, which will loose their best staff possibly beyond covid... PS - And speaking of covid vaccination certificates, one of my ladyboy friends who refuses to take the free Sinovac shots and can't afford the farang shots in a private clinic told me he bought one such 2-shot SInovac vaccination certificate for 100 baht...

so, on the Parting Glass/ Restless Farewell theme, here's Bob doing Restless Farewell at the Frank Sinatra 80th Birthday Bash in 1995. Dylan had long known Sinatra through his friendship with daughter Nancy and Tony Bennett. not so relevant perhaps, and not trying to turn this thread into a Dylan one. But it's a goody. A false clock tries to tick out my time. To disgrace, distract and bother me. And the dirt of gossip, blows into my face and the dust of rumours covers me. But if the arrow is straight and the point it is slick, it can pierce through the dust no matter how thick. So i'll just make my stand and remain as i am, and bid farewell, and not give a damn.

okay so Bubba mentioned Dylan [yup i know he's not Irish] here's a song that could well be Irish, it's traditional possibly based on an old irish tune 'Lake Erin' Belle Isle.

No need for an apology for the thread fook, its quite ok with me Duke. Lets just say some posters are linear in there style, I love my diversity in a thread :-)