Papa Sam Posted November 23, 2021 Share Posted November 23, 2021 Have you heard already that "Katoys 'Are' Us" is now a fish shop called Kois Are Us... Just kidding of course... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Sam Posted November 24, 2021 Share Posted November 24, 2021 (edited) Sonthaya, the Pattaya mayor, "accepts" the demands from the Pattaya bar industry to open bars before NYE, writes Channel 7 today: "Progress in the case of Pattaya Walking Street operators requesting relief from opening entertainment venues." "The entertainment venues such as pubs, bars, karaoke will be proposed to be considered open during the New Year." (Google Translate) https://news.ch7.com/detail/531835 Walking Street bar owners met at the King seafood restaurant to petition for the reopening of bars: Bryan Flowers mentions he's told by the (restaurant and bar) licensing guys that December the 10th will be the day bars could reopen: Khaosod on November 25th, 8:23 a. m. mentions December 16th as a possible reopening date: https://www.khaosod.co.th/newspaper/newspaper-front-page/news_6749729 Let's hope for good news for the Pattaya bar industry on Friday (CCSA meeting). Edited November 25, 2021 by Papa Sam Added media 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Sam Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) At tomorrow's CCSA meeting, they will apparently also discuss the opening of the land borders in December. Of course, the opening of entertainment venues, such as pubs, bars, but except karaoke on December 16th in the 17 tourism pilot areas will be discussed as well. Preliminary guidelines: No karaoke and no open communal dance areas are allowed. Guests must refrain from getting close to other people. Employees must do a covid19 check every 3 days. Customers must show evidence of being fully vaccinated and (or?) present covid test results before entering the bars. However, these guideline are only preliminary. The Ministry of Health will give details later on, writes: https://www.pptvhd36.com/news/สุขภาพ/161238 (via Google Translate) So do I get this right: karaoke style places won't be allowed to open? -> Not the expected good news then for many gogo bar owners in Nana Plaza, Soi Cowboy, Walking Street & Soi 6 Pattaya and so on... Or does "no communal dance areas" mean gogo girls can show off their bodies on the stage but can't sit with a customer??? Basically the same story can be found here: https://www.brighttv.co.th/news/politics/open-country-phrase-two Staff must refrain from getting close to the guests... And Khaosod writes on 25 Nov 2021 8:23 p.m. that there will be 4 rules for the reopening of bars on December 16th in the 17 tourist pilot areas: 1. No karaoke. 2. No public dance area. 3. No serving drinks that use the same glass and 4. No service close to customers. https://www.khaosod.co.th/covid-19/news_6751526 Edited November 25, 2021 by Papa Sam Added content 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Sam Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 (edited) Sex workers in brothels, bars, karaoke clubs, a-gogos, massage parlors, and freelancers wrote a letter to the government. They are asking for compensation from government because they closed the entertainment venues where they used to work. The sex workers from Chiang Mai, Chiang Rai, Lampang, Bangkok, Samut Sakhon, Udon Thani, Mukdahan, Pattaya, Phuket, Krabi and the Empower Foundation also demand more safety at work and want to be protected by labor laws and they don't want to be discriminated against and stigmatized. The compensation received from the government so far was insufficient and inconsistent, especially for workers without social security and for migrant workers and ethnic groups they say. Everyone hoped that on December 1st they will be able to return to work. But they were disappointed because this date was postponed and now no one believes the government anymore they say... They demand 5,000 baht compensation per month. Campaign to send shoes to the Government House: https://siamrath.co.th/n/300772 (Date of publication: 25 November 2021, 7:37 p m.) Prachatai also reports on the initiative by the sex workers to send shoes to the government to raise attention to their fate: https://prachatai.com/journal/2021/11/96114 Edited November 25, 2021 by Papa Sam Added resource 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Sam Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Stop dreaming: CCSA meeting today, no decision to reopen bars before January 2022: Today there has not been a resolution to relax and open entertainment venues faster due to concerns about the Covid-19 situation. However, government has been tasked with finding remedial measures to help entrepreneurs and musicians. If any entertainment venue violates the rules and opens illegally it may be closed for a long time. At the same time, government has also imposed a ban on travel in and out of Africa after a new mutation was found. " said Gen. Prayut. https://www.tnnthailand.com/news/covid19/97655/ Starting January 16th: "entertainment venues, pubs, bars can sell alcohol until 11 p.m. and open until midnight. Conditions: 1. No karaoke. 2. No public dance area. 3. No shared drink glasses. 4. No promotional activities or activities that involve crowding and close contact with customers. The emergency decree will be extended for two more months until January 31st. There are no more dark red zones. https://thairath.co.th/news/politic/2251262 https://www.tnews.co.th/Social/554696 https://www.komchadluek.net/news/494344 https://www.posttoday.com/social/general/669181 https://www.prachachat.net/politics/news-809864 Shoooot... Bars remain closed until mid-January! But: The BBC writes today: "However, a spokesman for the government said that the meeting acknowledged the suffering of entrepreneurs and workers in this business. Therefore, if operators follow the measures to prevent infection well they may open sooner than January 16th" A shimmer of hope? Guess we'll have to wait another 2 weeks or whenever the next CCSA meeting will be... https://www.bbc.com/thai/Thailand-59426568 The Bangkok Biz News also still sees an opportunity for entertainment venues to open before January 16th - if they strictly follow the rules: https://www.bangkokbiznews.com/social/974132 "No need to stick to the original schedule, which is January 16, 2022, if the entertainment venues fully cooperate. They may be able to open before January 16, 2022" said a government spokesman according to https://www.matichon.co.th/covid19/thai-covid19/news_3059584 (via Google Translate from Thai to English, so please bear with me) Maybe they are concerned about this: What do you think, guys? Any chance to see the bars legally open before January 16th, despite the disappointing CCSA meeting today? This post may be updated... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdoggg Posted November 26, 2021 Author Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 hours ago, Papa Sam said: What do you think, guys? Any chance to see the bars legally open before January 16th, despite the disappointing CCSA meeting today? If restaurants can serve booze and bars can metamorphosize into restaurants by simply getting the proper license then I guess you could say bars will be open. Last night Treetown was packed; big crowds at every table. The Cocktail Cart openly had booze bottles on display. Some cute ladyboy streetwalkers in the area. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Sam Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Yep, Tree Town last night I guess: Pics from Twitter Many sex workers will have to wait before they can get back to their old place of work again: As a sign of protest they're sending their shoes to the government with a letter telling them: No money, no honey, no GDP: https://www.khaosod.co.th/politics/news_6753132 Dated 26 Nov 2021 4:25 p.m. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTel Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 This is the "Build and they shall come" being implemented in all it's glory. "Aquatique District Pattaya mega project is planned to be developed on Pattaya Beach" https://thepattayanews.com/2021/11/27/aquatique-district-pattaya-mega-project-is-planned-to-be-developed-on-pattaya-beach/ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lefty Posted November 28, 2021 Share Posted November 28, 2021 Has the Thai govt been doing any better about getting people vaccinated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTel Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 The remnants of a era. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdoggg Posted November 29, 2021 Author Share Posted November 29, 2021 2 minutes ago, BigTel said: If we are playing Name That Shot then I know it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTel Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 3 hours ago, Pdoggg said: If we are playing Name That Shot then I know it! We have a winner Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 I'd never have guessd it in a month of Sunday's. I am amazed ! 5555 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyzzy Posted November 29, 2021 Share Posted November 29, 2021 I didn't see Soi MIT posted here. I must be blind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Sam Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 On 11/29/2021 at 12:06 AM, Lefty said: Has the Thai govt been doing any better about getting people vaccinated? About 62 % of the population in Thailand is fully vaccinated. Compare that to: USA: 58%, UK 68%, European Union: 67%, Singapore: 92%, Vietnam: 50%, Asia: 48%, World excl. China: 37%. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/share-people-fully-vaccinated-covid 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Sam Posted November 30, 2021 Share Posted November 30, 2021 (edited) Pattaya entertainment venues ask the state for permission to open before the New Year festival, hoping to incentivize tourism. Published 30 Nov 2021 16:00 Mr. Damrongkiat Pinijkan, secretary of the Pattaya Entertainment and Tourism Industry Association said at a meeting at the Hard Rock Hotel the government should consider easing the current nightlife restrictions and should take measures that will allow entertainment venues to open before Christmas or New Year. The Pattaya Entertainment and Tourism Industry Association therefore proposes the easing of restrictions for pub and restaurant operators including beer bar operators that operate in open air and that can assign guests a seat that is socially distanced from others. Many hotels have an occupancy rate of less than 50 % because most tourists choose to stay in 4-5 star hotels with discount programs. If the situation doesn't improve during high season which ends in February, there may be SMEs (small and medium sized enterprises) that will have to close. He pointed out that the vaccination rate in the area is more than 80%. https://mgronline.com/local/detail/9640000118785 (translated from Thai into English using Google Translate so please bear with me) https://www.topnews.co.th/news/174103 Edited November 30, 2021 by Papa Sam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Sam Posted December 2, 2021 Share Posted December 2, 2021 The PM was asked today about the prospects of reopening bars sooner. Seems he's moved away from any thoughts of relaxing the rules he might have had one or two weeks ago: https://www.brighttv.co.th/news/politics/pm-bar-postpone-bar-open https://www.khaosod.co.th/politics/news_6762372 Published 2 Dec 2021 11:31 a.m. Naewna says, the PM wants to wait another month before deciding on the reopening of bars: https://naewna.com/politic/619593 Published Thursday, December 2, 2021, 11.41 a.m. The Post Today writes that the PM is apologetic about postponing the reopening of bars but that he listened to health officials: https://www.posttoday.com/politic/news/669665 Published 02 Dec 2021 12:10 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Sam Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 (edited) Pattaya Walking Street demonstration today: https://fb.watch/9FEjeI8fQ0/ https://www.matichon.co.th/economy/news_3070867 "Very good news is coming out. Will wait for Aj to announce the Pattaya News. It is clear, but needs to be clarified exactly." writes: https://www.facebook.com/BryaninBangkok Happy ending finally for Pattaya (pun intended)? Edited December 3, 2021 by Papa Sam 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Sam Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 Breaking news: Pattaya Booze ban lifted Drinking alcohol allowed from 11 a.m. - 2 p.m. and from 5 p.m. - 11 p.m. Venues must have a sanitary safety standards certificate such as SHA. Entertainment venues, pubs, bars, karaoke, massage parlors remain closed. Shops that sell alcoholic beverages must strictly comply with COVID-19 prevention measures. https://www.khaosod.co.th/covid-19/news_6765458 Published 3 Dec 2021 5:51 p.m. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTel Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 18 minutes ago, Papa Sam said: Pattaya Booze ban lifted 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdoggg Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 This website provides a list of SHA certified restaurants in Pattaya: https://www.thailandsha.com/shalists/index?type=1-Restaurants+%2F+diners&province=20-Chon+Buri&keyword=pattaya Although the proprietors of non-SHA certified, but real restaurants could get in trouble for selling booze, I doubt there would be unpleasant ramifications for customers. We will see what bars get SHA certified as restaurants. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietguy Posted December 3, 2021 Share Posted December 3, 2021 1 hour ago, Papa Sam said: Entertainment venues, pubs, bars, karaoke, massage parlors remain closed. So it's only for SHA certified restaurants, not bars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdoggg Posted December 3, 2021 Author Share Posted December 3, 2021 15 minutes ago, Quietguy said: So it's only for SHA certified restaurants, not bars. Unless a bar gets a restaurant license. Remains to be seen how it will be enforced. Quote Only restaurants in the blue zone and with SHA certificates are allowed alcohol sales and drinks inside. Alcohol sales are allowed from 11:00 A.M. to 2:00 P.M. and from 5:00 P.M. to 11:00 P.M. These restaurants must clearly show their certificates. Nightclubs, pubs, bars, karaoke, soapies remain closed. https://thepattayanews.com/2021/12/03/pattaya-and-other-chonburi-blue-zones-officially-allowed-to-sell-alcohol-in-restaurants/ But even before the latest decree lots of paper cups around Treetown with patrons packed around tables like sardines whooping it up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Sam Posted December 4, 2021 Share Posted December 4, 2021 Pattaya bar owners happy: More and more establishments such as restaurants, cafes, grilled pork places etc are gradually opening up. Ms. Amittra Klaidaeng, a restaurant operator, revealed that she was very satisfied with the order because most restaurants sell food to pair with alcoholic beverages. When it's okay to drink alcoholic beverages in a restaurant, more customers will come resulting in more sales and profits. After being closed for several months causing losses and an increase in liabilities, she believes that after this order establishments will recover faster. Mr. Wasan Sanguangkham, the boss of a cafe, revealed that both SHA Plus and Covid Free Setting rules are being followed by the operators and that they will fully cooperate with the provincial and national authorities. Customers and tourists are cooperating very well, he said, including wearing masks, hand washing, social distancing, not more than 5 musicians playing and so on. Translated from Thai into English using Google Translate so please bear with me... Source: https://www.matichon.co.th/news-monitor/news_3071662 Published December 4, 2021 - 11:48 a.m. In Chiang Mai however, only restaurants in five selected districts are allowed to sell alcohol, starting December 6th: https://www.bangkokbiznews.com/news/975678 Published 04 Dec. 2021 9:28 a.m. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdoggg Posted December 4, 2021 Author Share Posted December 4, 2021 2 hours ago, Papa Sam said: Customers and tourists are cooperating very well, he said, including wearing masks I don't think I have ever seen a restaurant customer wear a mask. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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