SiamSam Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Tomorrow is the big day for Scotland. Whether they go or stay they will always be part of the United Kingdom. However if they do go the "Great" in Great Britain will be diminished considerably. Your thoughts gentleman? Quote Link to comment
bumblebee Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 Personally I don't feel strongly about it going either way. It would better suit Ireland's interests if the No vote wins as an independent Scotland would be an potential rival in attracting business of various sorts. Quote Link to comment
rxpharm Posted September 17, 2014 Share Posted September 17, 2014 If the yes vote wins, the GBP will take a substantial hit, probably decreasing at a minimum of 10%. It will take quite a while to recover. Scotland's economy will take a bigger hit, as the questions of currency, membership in the EU, and status of British business interests, etc. will have to be resolved. Quote Link to comment
bumblebee Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 If this goes the way of the Yes vote later today it will feel to me like the time the Iron Curtain fell and the end of apartheid in South Africa. Many just took these things for granted and presumed they were more or less permanent and suddenly they were gone, real historical moments that altered our perception of the world. Can you imagine waking up tomorrow morning and the Britain you have know all your life is no more...now that will be something to get your head around if it happens. 1 Quote Link to comment
Tomcat Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Belgium will be next...Flanders and Wallonia. and then Catalonia and so on and on. And the Germans will still be running the show The Pubs are open all night in Glasgow ... probably a few punch ups Quote Link to comment
SiamSam Posted September 18, 2014 Author Share Posted September 18, 2014 If Scotland goes it will be largely due to the 16 to 18 year old vote IMO. Most young people want change for change sake and seldom think things through or have the life experience to fully comprehend the long term consequences of their choices. 1 Quote Link to comment
Tomcat Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Some would say that the Nation state is coming to a close.. Look at the EU for starters .. a transnational body with huge powers . Also Worldwide the City State may make a comeback according to many commentators .. look no further than London for that who will benefit hugely if the Scots vote Yes and will also now look to devolution themselves from the rest of the UK if a YES vote happens (DEVO MAX). I think in New York they already keep 50% of the tax for themselves - The Genii is out of the bottle as they say Worldwide most people live in big cities and a trend that is with us for a long time as more and more live in the Concrete jungle..the City state may be in for a comeback. 1 Quote Link to comment
pdogg Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Amazing that Scotland can secede with just a majority vote. We Yanks fought a Civil War over that sort of shit. 1 Quote Link to comment
williethepimp Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 If Scotland goes it will be largely due to the 16 to 18 year old vote IMO. Most young people want change for change sake and seldom think things through or have the life experience to fully comprehend the long term consequences of their choices. yes sam,by reducing the voting age to coincide with this referendum,the YES lobby hoped it would swing the result their way.....i still think the NO camp will win the day.....as has been said, a Yes vote could have a domino effect all over europe..... btw,,,,,this idea for a referendum came from tony blair....he didnt have a referendum to get us out of the common market...or have a referendum to ask whether we wanted to go to war in iraq Quote Link to comment
bumblebee Posted September 18, 2014 Share Posted September 18, 2014 Early indications from the currencly markets and polls indicate a No vote but the actual counting in just beginning, Quote Link to comment
seven Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 This pic was in an article saying "we can take care of ourselves". In that tee? 1 Quote Link to comment
ArchieBunker Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The stats I saw were that the 16-18 year ol vote made up less than 2% of the electorate. Now, granted, if its razor close then this small block could make a difference. Now I am watching some of the early coverage and I had a question. Do they not do "exit polling" in the UK?? Once polls are closed news organizations can call an election most of the time. the only cases where they can not call them are when they are so very close.... Quote Link to comment
SiamSam Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 It's 05h00 on September 19th in Scotland and although they have not officially called it there seems to be no doubt the NO side has won. The UK union appears to have dodged a bullet. Quote Link to comment
SiamSam Posted September 19, 2014 Author Share Posted September 19, 2014 It's official. NO was the vote. Quote Link to comment
rxpharm Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Good news for the UK, and the majority of the Scots who voted. Very impressive that 97% of eligible voters registered to vote in this referendum and 86% turned out to vote. Interestingly the Quebec sovereignists were consultants to the yes side and are claiming it will revive hopes and sentiment for the Quebec independence movement, as the yes side moved from around 30% to over 40% in just a few months. I hope they are wrong. Quote Link to comment
duke007 Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 Perhaps the £ will be worth more Pesos and Baht now that Alex Salmond has been fooked off 1 Quote Link to comment
bumblebee Posted September 19, 2014 Share Posted September 19, 2014 The stats I saw were that the 16-18 year ol vote made up less than 2% of the electorate. Now, granted, if its razor close then this small block could make a difference. Now I am watching some of the early coverage and I had a question. Do they not do "exit polling" in the UK?? Once polls are closed news organizations can call an election most of the time. the only cases where they can not call them are when they are so very close.... I think I heard some commentator saying there was none for this referendum but i not sure how it is for other votes in the UK. Quote Link to comment
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