xyzzy Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Here is a partial update on PP. I'm here for a while longer so hopefully will have some further updates. I've only scratched the surface. I've been playing with the GGs also <gasp> so much hunting left to do. Talked to a former Candy Bar LB a couple of nights ago. She told me Candy had changed managers and the new manager got rid of all the LBs. I was curious that I hadn't seen any the two times I visited. In the past, on occasion, my emergency plan was if all else fails there is always Candy Bar. Not so anymore. Do mi no (Domino) Bar on street 5 between 110 & 118. Two nice LBs here. One speaks great English the other not so much. Both are nice looking and easy to get along with. I went in there last night and there was only one LB and she was busy. A GG actually put a move on me so I bought her a drink. The GGs all know I am the LB guy so they usually don't even try. The first LB has only been there one night out of three so perhaps a bit popular. Island Bar on St 118 less than a block from the river. A couple here but one looks a bit rough. I haven't sampled yet. Nice dark couch area in the back. I pulled a GG here first time in as the LBs were busy on the couch. Will be interesting to see how it plays out if a take a LB. G's Bar on 136, about 1/2 block off the river, has two. One is a little rough looking but in a short visit she seemed a lot more fun. I don't really like the way this bar is set up. Everything is a little too out in the open. The two times I've been in have been very late night. I need to try it mostly sober once. Edit: there is a more secluded seating area upstairs. Oscar 51 Bar has four LBs. Two are ex Candy Bar LBs. Oscar 51 is almost directly across Street 51 from Walkabout. It is a large music bar that usually plays some decent rock or has a band many nights that plays kind of soft rock stuff on request. The music volume level is fairly low. So much so you can almost ignore the band if you are in the front. Was in a couple of nights ago and bought two LBs drinks, played pool, danced a little, sucked face a little and discreetly rubbed a couple of crotches. I drew a few strange looks, mostly from the GG hostesses, but not too bad. But this is a music bar with hostesses so not a flat out in your face kind of sex place. It will be interesting to see how the LBs fair in this bar. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblebee Posted December 31, 2013 Share Posted December 31, 2013 Thanks for the PP update Xyzzy it's always good to hear news about the old place. Shame about Candy Bar as it was always a good late night refugee like you say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
premier Posted January 1, 2014 Share Posted January 1, 2014 Hey Xyzzy, your report from the front line has enabled me to add some pins to my campaign map of PP ahead of my arrival at the end of January, thanks mate will save me some legwork, but that's half the fun isn't it. How much longer you in PP for? I arrive 31 Jan for a week, then back to Thailand for a week, most likely in Pattaya. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyzzy Posted January 1, 2014 Author Share Posted January 1, 2014 Thanks guys. There also is a LB in 69 Bar on 136. I haven't worked some of the bars much as I have avoided playing with LBs in the bars my expat friend frequents. Hunting is part of the fun but I figure the LBs here can use all the help they can get. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyzzy Posted January 6, 2014 Author Share Posted January 6, 2014 A correction on the Candy Bar report. Two LBs that have been at Candy for many years are still working. Teri (that isn't the correct spelling but it sounds a lot like Terry) is still there and is now sporting a 360cc set of bolt-ons. And Akira (close if not right) who has the only circumcision I've seen in Cambo. I've only seen a couple in Thailand. Former long time Candy girl Sasa is working at Island bar. She knew me but I didn't recognize her. She has a new nose (that actually looks good) and looks quite different. There are two LBs working at Big Mama Bar on 104. They do not speak to each other. Trying to buy both a drink at the same time is not advised! There is one at Ben's Bar on 110 about a half a block off the river, ====================================================== There are also political protests going on in Phnon Penh. It turned deadly last weekend when security forces opened fire on protesters. There were several deaths. I knew nothing about it from where I am located until a BM here asked me if I was affected. I did see the security forces patrolling. They were in the back of a truck with shields that looked like they were made out of 55 gallon drums. Mostly protests here are just traffic problems. But as the government seems to be losing patients being near a protest, like the serious hot spots in BKK, is a bad idea. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblebee Posted January 6, 2014 Share Posted January 6, 2014 Thanks guys. There also is a LB in 69 Bar on 136. I haven't worked some of the bars much as I have avoided playing with LBs in the bars my expat friend frequents. Hunting is part of the fun but I figure the LBs here can use all the help they can get. Very true Xyzzy we can never give them enough exposure in the hope of increasing their income and improving their lot in life. Keep up the good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyzzy Posted January 15, 2014 Author Share Posted January 15, 2014 Slight correction on Ben's Bar. There are two LBs. *************************************Adventures in ED drugs:ED drugs are sold everywhere here. They have a nice selection on the counter at most any convenience store along with the multitude of small drug stores. I've tried most and the results weren't good. There is something that is sold in a Cialis box (minus the hologram). Best I could tell it contains a slight amount of sildenafil citrate (active ingredient in Viagra). Gives a *little* boost for a few hours then gone. I bought two boxes of Apcalis and it did nothing even though I took four at one point. Then I switched to sildenafil citrate. A Kamagra Jelly gave no results at all. So then tried Zeagra. I cut one into four pieces and took the smallest piece and had good results. Next day I ate two other pieces and nothing happened. Later had good results taking a whole tablet. Then again took a whole tablet and nothing. Results much the same with Kamagra. Very hit or miss so I will bring some from Thailand next time. RX can come along now and tell me how foolish I am.Two nights ago I was at Ben's Bar. I was entertaining one of the LBs and a Scandinavian guy was with the other. We sat at the same table and struck up a conversation. One of the GGs was loudly giving us a bit of crap about liking to boom boom the rear instead of the front. Almost told here I would boom boom her mouth to shut her up but let it pass. Unlike Thailand I could probably get away with saying that in Cambo without getting beaten to a pulp. But the two LBs had customers and the GGs had none so she was a bit upset.The LB I was with at some point asked me "You have cartoons?". I said "Cartoons?" and she pointed at the other guy's arms that were covered in tattoos. I've seen one GG here with lots of tats and she was Thai. I guess tats will make it here sooner or later but at the moment they are something of a rarity on a GG or LB. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenW Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 xyzzy was one of the Ben's Bar LBs Lilly by any chance? She used to work there (in fact that's where I met her, back in 2011 or 12). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyzzy Posted January 16, 2014 Author Share Posted January 16, 2014 xyzzy was one of the Ben's Bar LBs Lilly by any chance? She used to work there (in fact that's where I met her, back in 2011 or 12). Sorry KenW I didn't get the name of one of the LBs who was with the other guy. The LB I was with said the other one only works there part time. I went in last night but she wasn't in the bar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdogg Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Ken, the last I saw Lilly (LyLy) was in Big Mama Bar on street 104. But that's old info from months ago. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenW Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Maybe a bit of confusion here pdogg. LyLy is the little blonde one if we're thinking of same gal. Often seen in 104 St. Also often seen on the quay (which is where dixon & I met her and mate chubby back then.) Amazingly, I don't have a pic of her. Lilly from Ben's Bar back then is here: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdogg Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Ken, I last saw the ladyboy in your pic at Big Mama. At Ben Bar, Keo is quite popular even with guys who usually don't go with ladyboys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KenW Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 They move around so much don't they. And things change so fast in the capital. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bmxer Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Lily works on and off at bens bar. I hope her english is improving, that was my only complaint. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
premier Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 I have just returned home from my latest trip to Thailand and Cambodia and I thought I'd add a few notes to xyzzy's excellent PP report. Xyzzy, it was nice to catch up again in Pats. My original plan was for 6 nights in PP but I had such a pleasant time I ended up changing my flight and staying for 9 nights. I stayed at the Golden House in Street 136 for my first 6 nights before moving over to River 108 Hotel which is in on St 108 across from the night market and just a few doors from the riverfront. I was very impressed with River 108 and this will be my first choice when I return to PP again. A lot of my report will only confirm xyzzy's notes however I'll try and add some new information, I am hopeless remembering names so won't be able to add much there. I also won't be adding any photos as every time I've done this in the past heroes have fucked it up for me. Anyway I'll start with St 136, and I can confirm there are 2 ladyboys in Candy Bar, one being Sophie (AKA Thearry) who has been on the PP scene for a while. There are also 2 ladyboys across the road at Singer Bar, with Candy and Singer having the same Khmer owner. Both these bars are open 24 hours however unsurprisingly you seldom spot the ladyboys in the daylight hours. I just happenned to be upstairs at Candy one afternoon which was pay day for the staff, must have been 40 or 50 girls there and all the ladyboys. Being the sole customer up there I attracted a lot of attention! The owner and manager gave all the girls what sounded like a bit of a pep talk, I later asked one of the girls what was discussed and was told "she want us get more barfine and ladydrink"....no suprises there. Candy and Singer are basically shithole bars, the upstairs toilets at Candy have been broken for years, the clientele is seedy (even by PP standards) and most of the GGs are skanks. The balcony at Candy is however in my opinion the best bar in PP to kill a few hours of an afternoon, as there really are no other options if you want to have a few beers with a girl at your side. I ended up having a problem with one of the LBs so didn't venture into these bars the last few days of my trip. Also on 136 is G's Bar which has 2 young and very raw ladyboys, one of them sporting a rather bad wig and who you could barely classify as a femboy, let alone a ladyboy. Yet they are very friendly and good fun to hang out with. The taller and darker one has big potential, and I reckon in one or two years, with some hormone treatment which would smooth out her skin a bit, she will be an absolute stunner. Another ladyboy, Eva, hangs out at this bar intermittently. I picked her up at Pontoon a couple of years ago, at that stage she was sporting a wig, but boy have her looks improved since. I think she may just work around a few bars/clubs as she pleases, I also saw her in the Rainbow cabaret. She can be found on Thaifriendly if you search for Cambodian ladyboys. From memory there was another LB in a St 136 bar opposite G's Bar but the bar's name and the LB's name escapes me, but may have been Lemon bar. As xyxxy reported there are two LBs in Domino bar just a couple of blocks from 136 on Street 5. They have a discreet mezzanine level with couches where you can go for a good grope or fondle etc. I barfined Ano from here who was enthusiastic and good fun. The other LB in there has great English, is a bit more developed, and has a hot body. Just around the corner on St 130 is Loco Bar which has a very, very pretty LB by the name of Coco. This is a great bar run by a friendly Frenchman. As is the case in Thailand, the bars run by Westerners generally have it all over to bars run by locals. I took Coco on my first night, and after showing her a photo of another LB I was keen on from my last trip, she exclaimed "she my best friend". So naturally the friend, Pisai, was called, and I awoke the next morning with a LB on either side of me. Pisai works at Pretty Woman bar on Street 110, which is only a block or so from Domino. This bar is a bit different from most PP hostess bars being painted all white inside and having booths rather than tables. Judging by my visits, the customer base is largely Japanese and Korean. Pisai, like Coco, is very attractive, however both these two may end up as posties, it would suit them....as there is not much happening downstairs. Also on 110 is Keo at Ben's Bar, I always drop in for a drink but I've not taken her before, I just never have enough time to try them all. One day I will rectify this as she is very sexy and I've only seen good reports of her on this forum. Over on 104 I entertained the double act at Big Mama bar, which is Lyly and A Mey. xyzzy seemed to think these two were not friends however they assured my they were friends, and just to test this I barfined them both together. I've been with Lyly several times previously on other trips and she remains a favorite but you need to watch how much she drinks, as she has a bad habit of getting blind drunk and being a bit of a nuisance. A Mey is a real little firecracker in the room, she has a very small stature but a big cock and is very enthusiastic. She would be my LB recommendation in PP by a big margin, I ended up barfining her 4 times this trip. Also on 104 is Tiara at Top Ten bar, and she is still as sexy as ever, I really enjoy catching up for a chat with her. The only other LB I spotted on 104 was a bit of an old stager at Air Force bar. Not much to look at but definitely worth buying her a drink or flipping her a few bucks for a back and neck massage, she is very good at this. Aka, a postie and old favorite of mine, I believe may still work at 104 bar, but she is very popular and often on long term barfines. Over on Street 51 I checked out the LBs at Oscar bar mentioned by xyxxy. 2 of them knew me from Candy Bar, I only saw one other one in there and she was very pretty, but always busy with other punters. This is a good bar, they had Western rock bands playing both nights i was there and the volume is at a reasonable level. There are a few LB's dotted around the beer bars in the Golden Sorya Mall however I have never been a big fan of this place. Apparently (I was later informed) I pulled a femboy out of one of these bars one night. I just woke up with her, no idea where she had come from as I couldn't remember coming home. I never even got her name as she barely spoke any English, ah the joys of Phnom Penh. I took Lyly and A Mey to the Heart of Darkness one night but this club is now largely gay, and i didn't see any ladyboys, although on my last visit 12 months ago there were plenty. I also went to Pontoon a couple of times but I am unable to offer a coherent report as I was pretty wasted. I did see some familiar LB faces in there however i believe they only let in LB's that are accompanied by a punter, so you probably won't find any in there that are available. I did bump into a few LB's around the St 51 food vans at very late hours, one group of 3 were stunning and not ones I had seen in PP before. One was back home from Thailand on a visa run, works at Cascade apparently. The other 2 claim to work in a bar that caters only to Japanese. I have heard of this bar from other PP ladyboys over the years and it has a somewhat mythical status for me, as I've never been able to get it's name or location, but I suspect it may be a bar in the Naga Casino. Judging by the talent of the LB's purporting to work there, it would definitely be worth a look (if you are willing to pay Japanese ST/LT rates). I also visited the Rainbow and Classic cabaret shows. The Rainbow show had a nice lineup of 12 ladyboys and they had a special show that night, but the bar was packed, largely by gay Western men which is not my scene, and i only lasted one drink and took my LB companion over to Classic. Classic was packed, however the crowd here is all young Khmer gays and ladyboys, me being the only Barang in the club, which is much more my style. I've been here on several occasions and the cabaret show improves every year. There were a lot of nice ladyboys both in the cabaret show and the crowd. I spotted a ladyboy known as Sasa in the crowd, other PP guys on this forum with know her, she looks absolutely stunning these days. As I had company with me i didn't get to interact with any of the LBs in this place. As has been mentioned previously by others, PP is vastly different to Thailand in respect to the availability of LBs, and you need to do a fair bit of legwork to find them. I personally love Cambodian ladyboys, even more than their famous colleagues over the border in LOS. Anyway I hope this report adds a bit to xyzzy's report, and will assist any fellow BMs visiting PP. Cheers Premier 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiamSam Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Great report Premier. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globetrotter Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Is Singer bar the one across the intersection but same side of street as Candy ( btw be careful here as I caught them trying to pad my bill me at least once ) , and is Ano from Domino the bigger bodied girl , I remember one being tiny and the other on the bigger side, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
premier Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Yes, Singer Bar is across the intersection on the same side, I'm not suprised that they tried to pad your bill either, the place is literally a shit hole. And yes Ano is the larger bodied LB at Domino, and has my recommendation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globetrotter Posted February 17, 2014 Share Posted February 17, 2014 Mine too she gave me a good bj up in that mezzanine while another gg gave a little sexy dance in front of me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyzzy Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Lyly and A Mey obviously must have made up. I couldn't get them to have a drink together. I obviously missed out on some fun with those two. I never took Ano only Diamond at Domino who was my favorite. Funny how we all make different selections. The bar across the street from G's is perhap Bar 69? One tall blond LB. Thanks for the great update and some of the stuff I missed. Not sure if I will go to PP next trip or not. Staying a month this trip was over doing a bit for me. But the scene seems to get better all the time. But it would still be tough hunting for more than a couple of guys I think. Really best for the solo traveler IMO. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
premier Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I agree, best suited to the solo traveller or a pair. I have expat mates in PP who are all big mongers, but they never dabble in the ladyboys. PP is the perfect place to party with straight mates as the bars are mixed, I'd say on average perhaps every third bar would have ladyboy on staff. PP is an acquired taste, I'd estimate that 9 out of 10 guys who visit PP to monger would probably never return, as the availability of GGs and LBs is so much better in Thailand. Yet it remains my favorite place to party in Asia. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdogg Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 Pisai works at Pretty Woman bar on Street 110, which is only a block or so from Domino. This bar is a bit different from most PP hostess bars being painted all white inside and having booths rather than tables. Judging by my visits, the customer base is largely Japanese and Korean. Anyway I hope this report adds a bit to xyzzy's report, and will assist any fellow BMs visiting PP. Premier and xyzzy, thanks for taking the time to give so many details about the Phnom Penh scene! A first timer in Pattaya can find a ladyboy quite easy in Pattaya, just walk 100 yards in any direction. In PP, this type of intel is extremely valuable both to the newbe and guys who have been there several times. Thanks! Somehow, I've never been in Pretty Woman, perhaps I like the old style bars, perhaps I was worried I'd be surprised at the cost of drinks in a place like that given my expat budget. Are drinks there or more or less the same as the other bars on Street 100? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pdogg Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 PP is an acquired taste, I'd estimate that 9 out of 10 guys who visit PP to monger would probably never return, as the availability of GGs and LBs is so much better in Thailand. Yet it remains my favorite place to party in Asia. Well said! I really enjoy Phnom Penh, but many guys who go there to monger are quite disappointed. Never try, never know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globetrotter Posted February 18, 2014 Share Posted February 18, 2014 I think GG wise it is pretty impressive in its own right , I researched alot and was still blown away by how many hostess bars there were, but as noted its LBs that are really lacking compared to LOS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyzzy Posted February 18, 2014 Author Share Posted February 18, 2014 Somehow, I've never been in Pretty Woman, perhaps I like the old style bars, perhaps I was worried I'd be surprised at the cost of drinks in a place like that given my expat budget. Are drinks there or more or less the same as the other bars on Street 110? I went in Pretty Woman once but didn't see a LB. Not a bad bar really and I don't remember any sticker shock from the drinks. Just another hostess bar with a different kind of layout. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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