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And which particular armpit of which particular Aborigine might that be Jim?

And how often have you sampled said bouquet?

Can we leave the racist jokes (feeble primary schoolyard standard anyway) at home please.

It was actually a quote from a Month Python sketch Ken but maybe that's too much of a feeble primary schoolyard standard of humour for you .

If you don't like my attempt at a joke then as our hosts say ......up to you .

I sure ain't gonna retract it for a joke was all it was .

I can also reassure you that you don't need to assume I'm not a racist .

All my adult life has been spent within the Trade Union/ Socialist movement as an activist .

I've demonstrated on the streets against racists and fascists and stood up to their intimidation and threats , took a few punches and bottles for what I believed in .

Thank you Pacman BTW .

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It was actually a quote from a Month Python sketch Ken but maybe that's too much of a feeble primary schoolyard standard of humour for you .

If you don't like my attempt at a joke then as our hosts say ......up to you .

I sure ain't gonna retract it for a joke was all it was .

I can also reassure you that you don't need to assume I'm not a racist .

All my adult life has been spent within the Trade Union/ Socialist movement as an activist .

I've demonstrated on the streets against racists and fascists and stood up to their intimidation and threats , took a few punches and bottles for what I believed in .

Thank you Pacman BTW .

Monty Python (my favourites) or no, it is not worth repeating in this day and age. Don't fall back on such a shit excuse. I bet you a large sum of money (which I'd have to borrow) that the likes of Eric Idle would never say such a thing now. Thems were the 60s, this is now, in case you haven't ever heard of civilisation and how it evolves. I will not accept such an arrogant dismissal from the guilty.

I do not like your attempt at a joke. I think it guileless, pathetic, without taste and a disgrace to LBR.

It's the sort of joke my old man brought home from the pub in the 1950s. As I said or implied we might have laughed back then, but the civilised of us have moved on from that by light years. If you haven't then go somewhere else where that kind of stuff is welcome.

This is not my forum (nor yours) as we all know, and I do not mean to take over from our friends the owner and moderators. But for me this is ZERO TOLERANCE. And if guys like you get your way here then I have to reconsider my options.

OK don't retract. Don't apologise to some of the most sublime footballers, artists, musicians, good people - Indigenous people - Australia or the world ever saw. Just settlle into your dingy little narrow bigoted 19th century ways and be content with your smug self, union street fighter or otherwise. On that front, finally, don't protest your virtues, SHOW them by your current behaviour. Be decent.

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I will not accept such an arrogant dismissal from the guilty.

I do not like your attempt at a joke. I think it guileless, pathetic, without taste and a disgrace to LBR.

And if guys like you get your way here

And what exactly is a guy like me Ken ?

And what way am I trying to get here exactly ?

I'd be interested to know seeing as you do not know nor have ever met me .

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'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

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'It's now very common to hear people say, "I'm rather offended by that", as if that gives them certain rights. It's no more than a whine. It has no meaning, it has no purpose, it has no reason to be respected as a phrase. "I'm offended by that." Well, so fucking what?' —Stephen Fry

I saw this quote back when he said it & I thought then that it was excellent. I am so sick of self-interested twits using their "offence" as a reason to stop something. Or someone enjoying themself. As if they have the only opinion that matters.

Democracy allows us all to share our opinion but it alone should never be a reason to infringe upon the rights of others. I think Stephen Fry's quote will live on long after he does.

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The Big Left One tried calling me several times today...But I was out most of the day and left my phone here at home...I'll speak with him tomorrow and relay your displeasure...

The good news...I have an appointment with the eye doc in the AM and the medical office is near a Trader Joe's...So I will be making a wine run...even though my other doctor (when you get old you get a doctor for every part of your body) has restricted my wine to one glass a day...He failed to tell me just how large a glass I can use...

I promise to report back on my purchases soon...Perhaps even with pics...

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You need one of these

Thank you...Can I buy one online?

Ok Sam...Here are my purchases from yesterday...From left to right...

A nice Napa Valley Pinot Noir from Blue Fin Winery...A French Bordeaux from a winery I think isnamed Les Portes de Bordeaux...an Italian Sangiovese from a winery I think is named Vola Puglia...and a lighter Italian Barbera D' Alba from a winery named who the fuck knows...

I opened the Napa Valley Pinot Noir tonight because I think I liked the pretty blue label and because I have had it before and because I was in the mood for a light red...I am happy to report that it is half gone...Although it is the least expensive of the four, I am also very happy to report that it is a very very nice mild red that it very easy to drink...and should I not report back for a bit, it is because I drained the bottle...

And no, while they are posed on my stove, I did not cook them...

The good or bad news depending on whether you're right eyed or left eyed...This Trader Joe's is very near my eye doc who I will be visiting regularly over the next month or so...I have a cataract that he has kindly volunteered to remove for a very large bundle of money...Hopefully there will be some pennies left over to buy a bottle or two of red at TJ's...Which no doubt my other doctor will tell me that I cannot drink...

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Kahuna,

I have not had the Blue Fin but did have the Sangiovese, Les Portes de Bordeaux, and Barbera D'alba. All three are fine with the Bordeaux being the least interesting. I am not a big Bordeaux fan finding them generally on the heavy side. My wine of preference is a Bourgogne with my favorite region being Cote D'or. I like a lighter, clearer wine with a brownish red hue. Nothing beats popping a cock on one of those, pouring into a decanter, waiting anxiously as it breaths and then slowly sipping the contents as I slip into a kind of euphoria I never grow tired of. I am sure you can empathize. :biggrin:

What were the prices at Trader's for your above choices?

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I ain't nearly as sophisticated a wino as you are Sam...I tend to leave the bottle in the brown paper bag and drink directly from the bottle...I find that practice also keeps the drips off of my lap while driving...

To answer you question re prices at TJ's...The four bottles accompanied by a small piece of Ahi (red tuna) and a bag of tropical trail mix to munch on during the drive home, came to around 50 USD give or take a few bucks...The Napa Valley Pinot Noir was the least expensive at under 10 USD as I recall...So all-in-all an inexpensive purchase...In my defense, I had just left the eye doc where they had dilated my eyes and I couldn't see little shit like prices...Just big shit like names...While their selection is limited I find TJ's to be less expensive than the large liquor houses like BevMo...

And the Ahi lightly sauteed (you must serve it rare) and topped with an olive oil, butter, caper, lemon and white wine sauce was magnificent...My Ahi Piccatta...I may not know much about wine but I truly do like to cook and eat evidenced by my ever expanding trouser size...Something I miss during my stays in Thailand...

BTW..The Cucumber, on Pattaya Tai, opposite TukCom and a little toward WS, serves a really nice sea bass dish...A piece of sea bass sauteed, topped with a mild tomato salsa and served over a mashed potato fried cake thingy...It's very nice and not too expensive...

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Saw a bit of the first page, skipped the racism part, saw a photo of Thunderbird in there somewhere, and that reminded me of MY early wine-drinking experiences; Boone's Farm! Or Mad Dog 20/20......

$1.99 at any Cumberland Farms back in the late 70's......got you pretty blitzed too. and honestly, that was the last time I really had any wine. Tried it a few times in my 20's and 30's; it's just not for me and frankly any time I try a sip or 2 it just gives me heartburn.

Used to make me the running joke of any fancy meal, where people were drinking their favorite wine or beer and I was getting my usual Diet Coke.......didn't care then, don't care now; I like the flavor of soda and it goes well with just about any meal. But I understand the need or desire for people to drink the vino, it's just not for me.

*Far from innocent though, as I still enjoy a whiff or 3 of the demon weed from time to time [Read; every day]. Just about everyone out there has their favorite buzz, and that's still mine.

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I have never sat down to drink wine with the sole intention of getting drunk. That I finished up affected by alcohol on many an occasion is just a pleasant by-product of an indulgence I love. To compare drinking wine to smoking dope is to miss the point.

I would far prefer to enjoy a $20 bottle of wine than to drink 10 two dollar bottles. There is something almost spiritual about savouring a good wine. That sounds a bit wanky but wine drinkers will know what I mean.

Wine even has the sanction of the Bible where it is written.... "a little wine for thy stomach".

I put aside a bottle of Grange Hermitage years ago for a special occasion. Now simply called Grange, this 35 year old wine is too expensive to open. Last time I looked it had an auction value over $500. But that pales when I remember the day I opened a Grange for my best mate's birthday.

It was the famous 86 which I found out later was worth $1000+. We still talk about it & both agree it was a fabulous wine. And we came to that conclusion long before we knew what it was worth.

But I don't mind the extravagance, I remind myself that we can't live our life over.

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I was joking earlier guys...I was born in Napa, California...

Ah, this post made me nostalgic for my years in NorCal; I used to live in Sonoma County, right next door to Napa. Out of all the places I've lived in my home country, this was by far my favorite -- although I missed the seasonal changes of my native Midwest -- and would be where I'd look to settle if I ever move back permanently.

I remember going on long bike rides out onto the back roads, heading towards the coast, and it always struck me: back home, along the side of the road, you'd see any number of cheap-ass beer cans, along with the odd brown bottle. In NorCal, particularly in Sonoma and Napa counties, one typically sees wine bottles (and the odd empty box of vin ordinaire) on the side of the road, much more so than beer cans or bottles -- I shit you not.

And Kahuna's right; skip the big-name wineries if you go out there and go wine tasting. One trick my local friends taught me was to ask the staff at a winery where they recommended for tasting; invariably you'd end up getting sent to a string of small wineries where they sold strictly to wholesale operations or local and regional restaurants, and find great wine, really cheap.

Damn, I miss that place sometimes ...

One tidbit I'll add to what Ken has said about wines in Viet Nam; I've had one or two Dalat wines that didn't taste like ass -- and I mean that in the *bad* sense of the expression, heh -- but it's a rare hit or miss. I've gotten the same brand/vintage one time, and it tasted good, whereas at another time, crap. Also, I haven't been able to find it here in Sai Gon, but up in Bien Hoa, a sleepy blue-collar town north of the city on the way to Vung Tau, the Big C used to carry this stuff that was French, but bottled in Dalat, so it was much cheaper than any of the imported bottles, and actually rather good: a cab/shiraz mix that was desert dry (I love a good spicy, astringent red; a wine that is absolutely dying of thirst).

When I was in China I had some pretty good local reds (along with some rubbish) -- not much of a white drinker, unless maybe with certain kinds of seafood/fish -- but that was seven years ago, and I can't remember any names or such. All I recall is that they came from the north/west part of China, if I recall correctly (which I may not).

As for (U.S.) domestic swill, back in my university days, the local grocery store in the small college town I lived in used to frequently sell bottles of Boone's Farm -- flavors like Strawberry Hill (my favorite) -- three bottles for five bucks. Word would spread around campus like wild fire when this sale happened; you had to get there early otherwise it would sell out. Good cheap drunk, that stuff was -- one step up from Ripple, Mad Dog, Thunderbird, Wild Irish Rose, etc. (maybe) -- but guaranteed a sore head and cotton-mouth the next day.

Thanks for the tips on getting decent wine in Thailand; I'll have to follow up on that in the days and months ahead. I never really bothered to look, so this is good to know.

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Oh my gosh.... this is sparking neural pathways long diminished since my teens: Boone's Farm Apple wine, Ripple, Gallo Port, Mateus...basements with day-glo posters & black lights & dry humping on Saturday night. I remember the Gallo Port being a pretty bad trip once the vomiting & hangover commenced.

As an adult I tried to cultivate a minor wine habit since it's good for the heart.... but when gout kicked in it was the first to go (likewise I've also lost a of of my taste for beer since).... they're like old friends I have little in common with now.

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