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Genesis:-in the beginning


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Most of us have varying degrees of LB encounters under our belts by now. Many are perhaps drunken encounters long forgotten while others are memorable times that we look back on and smile about nostalgically. But like beer there had to be a very first one. Now I cannot remember my first beer much less have a photo of it :rolleyes: but I do remember well my first encounter with a Thai LB.

It happened in Karon beach, Phuket back in February '02. I won't go into all the details of that night, but she was working in one of the bars that was predominantly LB in a small complex on the seafront, may have been called Viking bar. Her name was Dia, she looked great to this newbie, well what had I seen to compare her to lol. Alas like many of our encounters, the face we wake up to sober is not exactly the same one we went to bed with drunk 6 hours previously.

Anyway gents let's see how many of you can contribute photos the the first one, could make for interesting viewing. :rolleyes:

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Ah yes... the first one. Lucky for me Obi Wan your assignment is relatively easy, as prior to that first trip to LOS I had been well-schooled in the benefits of writing a full trip report so I would have an activity log that I could use to remember my adventures. Here then is the entry from that first trip and first ladyboy encounter:

"My arrival to BKK was a bit overwhelming. The city is busy, dirty, smelly, and fucking amazing. Within an hour of being on the streets I made my way to Lolita's (a GG blowjob bar) on Soi 8 and Sukhumvit. For 700 baht a young cutie blew me no condom, and despite my best efforts to hold out I think I lasted all of about 5 minutes. After dinner and wandering around, I decided it was time to try Guess Bar, which happens to be across a parking lot from my hotel, The Majestic Grande. Very nice place by the way. I wandered into Guess at 6pm and was welcomed by Joy, who was so beautiful I was immediately intimidated. I'd made up my mind to try Jenny or maybe Vivian but seeing only 2 other girls (both busy with gents on the couches) I hastily beat my retreat. I returned at 9pm and was overwhelmed. There was Top! There was Jenny! I was like a kid in a candy store, but still seriously intimidated. I didn't know what to do or how to act. Jenny pounced and within a minute we were making out on the couch. I explained that I wouldn't suck her but wanted her to suck me, she added that she wanted to tongue my ass and other things which was met with no protest from me. After all of 3 or 4 minutes in the bar I was paying her BF and the check bin. She quickly changed into something a little less ostentatious and we were off across the lot. After showering in the room we got quickly down to the main course, and she was as good as promised. Not a real deepthroat artist but a definitely competent bj with lots of rimming and nasty looks. 10 minutes later it was done, and she accepted my 1000 baht with a look that told me I should have negotiated in advance. She said very sorry but she never go short time 1000 baht, I capitulated and another 1000 baht disappeared into her purse. All in all a fun experience for a first timer but not the earth shattering end-all-be-all I'd built it up to be in my mind!"

Pictures 1 and 2 are Jenny after the deed getting ready to return to bar

Picture 3 is Jenny the next year visiting Guess Bar (but not an employee)

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What a great topic BB...Forced me to stop what I was doing...Getting ready to fly out of here tomorrow and search for some old hard drives with some old photos...

My first encounter with a ladyboy is not as innocent as your story nor as auspicious as DT's story...And unlike either of you I have never made a trip report of any kind so there is no written record to fall back on...

From my old memory.............

My first trip to Bangkok...I remember I was staying at the DIG...I had arrived early morning on a red eye out of Taipei...And with time changes and excitement I could hardly sleep a wink...I was supposed to meet some guys at Big Dogs that evening...And so sometime around noon or so after a shower and a bite to eat, I went looking for NEP and Big Dogs in the daylight...

I musta walked up and down Soi 4 five or six times before I spotted NEP and Big Dogs...It was early afternoon so I couldn't just hang around there for 6 or 7 hours meet up time and because I was afraid to wander too far for fear that I would get lost and never find my way back, I trotted back to the DIG and tried to catch a bit of shut eye...Don't recall that I did or didn't but I was soon making plans for he evening...

Fortunately my contact was Katoeylover...So I messaged him and he confirmed a meet up at 7:30 at big dogs...Never bothered to find out what anyone looked like...I just assumed that there would only be a few guys in the bar and he and the others would be easy to spot...I was wrong...

When I arrived at 7:30 the bar was filled wall-to-wall with customers and ladies and who knows what...I didn't want to go to each person and ask them if they were Katoeylover so it wandered back to my room to fetch my phone...And made a call to Katoeylover...It was easier to describe what I looked like...Luckily true to my name Kahuna I had brought along an aloha shirt...And so on it went and off I went and the rest is kinda sorta history...

After introductions and a few nervous drinks my adventure began...First stop Cascade...I can remember walking into that bar and being so overwhelmed...No photos...No words...Nothing can prepare you for that first time...That first visit to a bar like Cascade...

In any event I was well cared for by both Katoeylover and Monkeyman who had made it their job to ensure that my first time went without incident...I don't recall much of that short time I spent in the bar except that I was well cared for by Monkeyman who sat next to me...

And I am forever thankful to the both of katoeylover and Monkeyman for taking this ugly old guy under their wings on his first visit to NEP...

In short order a ladyboy spied me and instead of me picking a girl I let her pick me...As it turned out it was not a bad choice...

The bad news...Now for the life of me I have no idea what her name is or was...And for that my deepest apology to her...It surely wasn't the best sex I had ever had...Those explosions happen when you are a teenager...But I recall it wasn't bad...and I quickly picked up the hang of playing with a cock...And the evening ended well...I never barfined her again...My eyes and my baht went elsewhere...But I continued to see her in Cascade from time to time and always said hello...

So that's my story and here she is...Ms No Name...If anyone recognizes her and knows her name, please let me know...

Actually kinda cute...except for that horrible silly cone...

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What a great topic BB...Forced me to stop what I was doing...Getting ready to fly out of here tomorrow and search for some old hard drives with some old photos...

My first encounter with a ladyboy is not as innocent as your story nor as auspicious as DT's story...And unlike either of you I have never made a trip report of any kind so there is no written record to fall back on...

Hope you managed to finish your packing on time. Well my tale was no so innocent, I knew what I was going to get up to as soon as I realised I was going to Los, this was not some drunken accident that I found I enjoyed lol. I used to pop into the sex shops in Barcelona and Madrid the previous year when I was living there to look at the covers of the shemale videos. Also I used to position myself on the beach in Barcelona beside any trannies I spotted and drool into the sand. :rolleyes: I knew I had to do some physical about this urge eventually. So when a trip to Los was suggested it was game on as far as I was concerned.

We had been over to Patong the night before, and I remember well passing the girls on the podium at Soi Croc and thinking this is why I am here. I was with my brother and a friend, both easy going guys so I knew it would not be an issue with them. They had been in Patong once before and knew what to expect. Funnily enough they did not know what I was into, but the friend said as we approached Soi Croc "Be careful along here, it is full of ladyboys and they can smell the curiosity" lol. It was like he was reading my mind.

Anyway have a safe flight and hope to catch up with you late next month.

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The most startling thing in this whole thread is trying to imagine Kahuna as a newbie!

It's mind-boggling. Since I've met you, of course I have an image of you in my minds-eye. But having no idea what you looked like all those years ago, for some reason when I try to picture "Newbie Kahuna" I get this mental image of you, but really short... like a child. I cannot picture you younger, so instead my mind pictures as shorter! A 4 foot tall Kahuna, but just as wizened.

It's nice to know everybody was a newbie once.

I didn't have a wingman to rely on until my 2nd trip to LOS, and having Snick and HighHeelLover to guide me through the wonders of Cascade and Obsessions made it far more comfortable and enjoyable. Doing it solo on my first trip was just nearly too overwhelming. And then going there this year with Bkkldyboy was fantastic, it made all the difference. I feel acclimated and comfortable now.

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I cannot picture you younger, so instead my mind pictures as shorter! A 4 foot tall Kahuna... It's nice to know everybody was a newbie once.

I was actually much older and much taller in those days DT...Just picture a very old 7 foot Brad Pitt...I seem to recall some movie about an old Brad Pitt...

It is nice to know that we were all rookies once and that is what is so special about this thread...It's good idea to remind ourselves from time-to-time that we were all rookies and owe so much to so many others ...I was a lucky one and had some good guys to help me find my way...Some of them...Like my friend PDogg keep helping...and I am forever beholden...

I can't remember much more about my first trip...But I did find this...

Want her number?

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It is nice to know that we were all rookies once and that is what is so special about this thread...It's good idea to remind ourselves from time-to-time that we were all rookies and owe so much to so many others ..

That's very true and it is something we tend to lose sight of. Many of us know each other nowadays under our well known forum personas. But there was that magic embryonic moment when we first set foot into the uncharted waters of our new lifestyle and started out on the voyage to become the guys we all know today.

Another funny quote from that night in Patong. While we were sitting having some food, 2 ladyboys walked past, and one had of all things a squirrel on a leash, taking it for a walk. Anyway later in the evening we were on a tuk tuk heading back over the hill to Karon and the driver was going a tad too fast. I said to the the guys do you realise this guy is probably a Buddhist and believes in reincarnation. Therefore he is possibly not too worried about crashing and dying as he knows he will come back.

Then I said to the guys what would you like to come back as if you were reincarnated. My friend looks me in the eye and say "A squirrel on a leash," lol :D

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first trip 2010.

stayed at the Nana hotel very nice good staff. got a very nice room on the 4th floor. I am tired and I could sleep,but I only have 3 weeks. so i call Ve a ladyboy I met online she works as massage girl on soi Nana. she was so happy to here my voice and said she would come over when she gets off work 10 min it was very late. 15 min later i get a call front desk a ladyboy is here to see me OK send her up. i was as nerves as a two tail cat in a room full of rocking chairs. lol

ve was my very first ladyboy and my first time to do anal.

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first trip 2010.

stayed at the Nana hotel very nice good staff. got a very nice room on the 4th floor. I am tired and I could sleep,but I only have 3 weeks. so i call Ve a ladyboy I met online she works as massage girl on soi Nana. she was so happy to here my voice and said she would come over when she gets off work 10 min it was very late. 15 min later i get a call front desk a ladyboy is here to see me OK send her up. i was as nerves as a two tail cat in a room full of rocking chairs. lol

ve was my very first ladyboy and my first time to do anal.

As a pitcher or a catcher?? :rolleyes:

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As a pitcher or a catcher?? :rolleyes:

As a pitcher .lol

my first time as a catcher was a few days later with Kwang.

when I woke up she was horny as hell and very hard before I could say a word she rolled me over in to doggy style and was in me fucking me good and hard. wow in no time she cumm.omg

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wow, that's amazing that you guys still have the photos! I wish I could be so lucky.....

Sorry I have no pics but the story of my first LB may be interesting anyway.

I visited Thailand and Vietnam for the first time in 1999; mostly to satisfy my fascination with recent American history, but also to see the Orient and to lay around on the beaches of Thailand and get away from the cold New England winter. I had sex with a few real ladies, and by accident slept with a postie who I had just assumed was a real girl; it wasn't until the next evening when I returned to that same bar that I discovered SHE was once a HE and that I had been duped.

Feeling at once humiliated but at the same time fascinated, I kept thinking about that "girl" all the way home on the plane, and couldn't wait to research it more on the internet, which at that time was just starting to reach the masses; no Wikipedia, very few porno sites, and in fact only ONE website which was dedicated to LB's - Ladyboy-Ladyboy.com, the first site ever.

I checked out the site for months on end after that, and couldn't believe how attractive these people were! And yet also had a cock, it was amazing to me and I wanted to try it out some more, but this time with a real pre-op. My next trip back wasn't for another 10 months, so I bided my time and kept checking out the website, never even dreaming that I could actually meet one of the girls, I figured that was just beyond the realm of possibility.

By early 2000 I was back in-country, and down in Phuket. Soi Tequila was the place to be, and there were probably 20-25 LB's hanging around and pole-dancing, pretty much the same as it is today. One girl was particularly hot, and dancing right in front of me; then I noticed the unique, triangle tattoo she had on her left shoulder; it was Sanook!! The same exact girl I had ogled over for months on the LB-LB website was right there in front of me, just inches away - I couldn't even believe it.

I guess it would be the same as today, if someone was fascinated with little Amy/Emma or Areeya or Mint, or Jenny from DT's photos; we see these people on the internet but never imagine they could be ours for the night. To me it was like seeing a superstar, someone untouchable from another realm and way out of my league - kind of like trying to sleep with Kim Kardashian or Jessica Alba, you know.....

But it was quite the opposite; once I worked up the balls to chat with my object of affection, she was sweet as pie and spoke perfect english, and was flirting right back with me; Jackpot!! And after 20 minutes of that I realized I could take her back to my room all night for 1000 baht, which at that time was only 23 bucks. Bear in mind I was a rookie at this time, a 2nd-year guy, so this was all very new and quite intoxicating for me.

Long story short, we ended up spending a week together and it was pure heaven.For all intents and purposes she became my girlfriend that week, and treated me as such; constant attention, massages, good companionship, friendly, and sexy as hell!! I seriously wish I had some pictures of her still, she was built like a brick shithouse and tight as a drum in every area, tall and long legs and just incredibly sexy. She had a small rack and a nice long cock, and to this day she is one of only 2 girls I have ever been with who could cum with no stimulation on her cock from either her hand or mine; she would be riding me like a horse and then out of nowhere would let out a shriek and her sperm would be flying all over my chest! Amazing, and I wish more girls could pull off that circus trick.

Saw her once or twice after that, a year or 3 later, but nothing could or ever will live up to the first time.....ahhhhhhhhhhhh, memories.

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One girl was particularly hot, and dancing right in front of me; then I noticed the unique, triangle tattoo she had on her left shoulder; it was Sanook!! The same exact girl I had ogled over for months on the LB-LB website was right there in front of me, just inches away - I couldn't even believe it.

I guess it would be the same as today, if someone was fascinated with little Amy/Emma or Areeya or Mint, or Jenny from DT's photos; we see these people on the internet but never imagine they could be ours for the night. To me it was like seeing a superstar, someone untouchable from another realm and way out of my league - kind of like trying to sleep with Kim Kardashian or Jessica Alba, you know.....

Hard to believe you were ever a rookie JaiDee, just goes to show we all started somewhere. What you say about being star struck is interesting. I would say there are 3 types of first encounters.

1 Is the one you describe here about seeing a superstar. A guy follows her on the net, gets a bit of a thing going for her, and finally takes the flight to Los and there she is, the woman of his fantasies in the flesh so to speak and more importantly obtainable.

2 Second is your earlier encounter with the post op, where a guy sleeps with an LB without knowing, and is more aroused and curious when he finds out rather than being disgusted. He cannot get the thought out of his head and needs to experiment more, I have heard this tale many times.

3 Are guys like myself who are into transexuals, but are not looking for the "superstars" or famous LBs when we arrive as such. I just knew when I got to Los I wanted to get a piece of LB action. This type of guy is hard to find these days with so much exposure on the net, but back in early 2000s there were a lot more I would guess.

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yeah, I'd agree with that, I've read about others who were surprised they had slept with a Ladyboy and didn't know beforehand. And it's pretty weird how I happened upon the whole thing by accident; I mean, I had come across Shemale's in glossy magazines during the 90's and while I was a bit curious, it was certainly not something I would ever seek out and try. There were escorts in Boston, I am sure I could have had sex with a shemale prior to my first Thai trip, I just never really considered it I guess.

I had always just been with ladies prior to this trip above, and was even married for a few years; and the girls I was screwing in '99 in Thailand and 'Nam were all LADIES and they were cute and thin, etc.....but I dunno, something about sleeping with that postie made me turn the corner, it made me more curious even to the point that I had to try it again.

Oddly enough, as the years went by I always warned guys against doing what I did; from what I could gather from various punters over the years, they were usually let down when they met the girl of their internet dreams and either she was a stuck-up snob or sucked in bed or whatever; rarely does our reality meet our expectations we have built up, you know?

But for me I just got lucky I guess; I found a good one who was also sweet and very cool, and as I said spending time with her for me was like spending time with a Hollywood starlet. And the whole week for a few hundred bucks, what a deal!

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I had been going threw a divouse at home so come to Los bkk first wasi in bkk for couple days went to patpong Wiley there got chatted to by a street girl took me to a short time room she showers I showers as I got back she pulled back covers and said surprise

Have you been with ladyboy before I said no I havernt pretended that I thought she was a lady bit said I was interested and found her sexy

She said she would teach me how to fuck a ladyboy , before I knew what was going on I was on my back legs in the air and her cock inside me

She pulled out cum over my chest then said your turn climbed on my cock putting condom on same time I came quickly so she said she stay with me all night I ask how much she said sort time money plus I buy her dinner

Was given the tour had dinner and drinks back to my hotel which there was some confusion as wouldn't let her in main door she had to use bottom door were the normal people would see her but in room had great time the hotel was the radison on Rama 9

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These two were my first Thai Ladyboys way back in 1986 pictured on Jomptien Beach.

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The Lady on the right was from Chiang Mai and named Leena, spent most of the trip with Her, She then introduced me to Her friend who was working in a revue show in Paris and was over on a Holiday in Pattaya. I would then share my time between the pair of them over the course of the trip.

Some great memories indeed and the start of the rocky road to LadyBoy Heaven :crazy:

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These two were my first Thai Ladyboys way back in 1986 pictured on Jomptien Beach.

The Lady on the right was from Chiang Mai and named Leena, spent most of the trip with Her, She then introduced me to Her friend who was working in a revue show in Paris and was over on a Holiday in Pattaya. I would then share my time between the pair of them over the course of the trip.

Some great memories indeed and the start of the rocky road to LadyBoy Heaven :crazy:

Some great vintage shots there BT. Like the green g-string on your friend.:rolleyes: Jomtien has changed a fair bit since then I see. :hi:

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Some great vintage shots there BT. Like the green g-string on your friend.:rolleyes: Jomtien has changed a fair bit since then I see. :hi:

Yes B B, it sure has changed, I can remember the first time I went to Jomptien was in 1981 at that time the road over to Jomptien was dirt track all the way.

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Yes B B, it sure has changed, I can remember the first time I went to Jomptien was in 1981 at that time the road over to Jomptien was dirt track all the way.

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Still is in patches lol. How long have they been laying it?? They have been messing around with it for the last 4 years at least. Lots of grants going astray no doubt. :ph34r:

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