Name that country

[saab1]

What year are we talking about 1100s 1400 s im guessing the Pyrenees, or possible Spain, Iberia or Catalonia, pretty much  half of France was under British rule around the 1100s and ended mid 1400s, after the 100 year war

[Patrick]

It's in SW France bordering the Bay of Biscay.

[Tomcat]

Patrick you are 100% correct. 

[Tomcat]

, pretty much  half of France was under British rule around the 1100s and ended mid 1400s, after the 100 year war

 

It wasn't ,

 

Britain did not exist then as a Sovereign State maybe only a place , in fact there were no Nation states then if you take the meaning as Historians use it... just Kingdoms , Empires and probably City States. I think around 1100s Henry the 2nd was in charge and although he was based in England he spoke only French. 

 

In fact Scientific Historians ( yes them) would probably claim that France was the first Nation state in born in1798 (when in fact only 12% of the population spoke French. This claim was made recently in a New Scientist article..)

 

When Italy became a Nation state only 2% spoke Italian.

[SiamSam]

TC, if in 1798 only 12% of the population spoke French what did the other 88% speak? Same question for Italy. It's fascinating since it was only 200 years ago give or take a decade. 

[Tomcat]

The Article was in New Scientist some weeks back and i lost the copy...Wikipedia has some info but its out of date as the Scientists are becoming the Historians now. The whole idea is that Nation States are finished . Actually i might be be able to get the archive

 

Anyway this is Wikpedia

 

 

QUOTE Wikpedia 

In France, Eric Hobsbawm argues, the French state preceded the formation of the French people. Hobsbawm considers that the state made the French nation, not French nationalism, which emerged at the end of the 19th century, the time of the Dreyfus Affair. At the time of the 1789 French Revolution, only half of the French people spoke some French, and 12-13% spoke it "fairly", according to Hobsbawm.

UN QUOTE

[Tomcat]

Sam

 

re Nation States and France etc

 

These were the two articles i was refering to but i dont subscribe and just buy the magazine and throw it away after a month. To get the full archive you have to cough up the $$

 

 

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22329850.600-end-of-nations-is-there-an-alternative-to-countries.html

 

http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg22329851.500-in-our-world-beyond-nations-the-future-is-medieval.html

[SiamSam]

Thanks TC. Interesting stuff for sure. 

[bumblebee]

How about this place chaps?

[Tomcat]

its not Mt Fuji is it... 

[bumblebee]

its not Mt Fuji is it... 

You are correct TC.... it isn't.

[Torurot]

Alaska

[bumblebee]

Alaska

Afraid not Torurot.

[Patrick]

Greenland?

[Patrick]

City and Country please:

[Torurot]

Is one Of Queen Elizabeth's British castles just outside London.

The canoe is in sub antarctic waters south America

[bumblebee]

Not Greenland or South America gents.

[NIGHTRIDER]

Iceland?

[NIGHTRIDER]

City and Country please:

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Spain? city?

[saab1]

France ?

[Hefe]

Slovakia?

[bumblebee]

Iceland?

Not Iceland NR.

[saab1]

Thought it might be France by the shape of the roof tops, they have a French look about them

[Patrick]

Saab 1 has the country, extra points for the town 

[bumblebee]

In the place I posted it's the Kamchatka Peninsula in Russia.  Thought Williethepimp would have been all over that one.