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I do feel this a lot of the time, especially when I'm back home. When I'm in los it doesn't seem to matter so much as it feels more like just the way things are. Perhaps I'm trying to justify myself but I like to think that p4p with ladyboys is less exploitative than with Thai ggs as I can see the lbs get erections and climax so I can believe they are at least enjoying themselves to some extent. But maybe I could think that if I made a gg climax. I do always treat people with respect, I don't treat people as sex toys just because they are in p4p.

As Stro says capitalism by its very nature is exploitive. Perhaps the lady who works in a 100 baht Buakhao foot massage joint is being exploited? Or the Cambodian garment workers who are fighting to make $177 a month? Is sex morally wrong and deserves a special category? So how could we avoid exploitation? I reckon we could double what we pay them and it would still be exploitation. If it were triple then we would just go to the Philippines and exploit there. In an ideal world there wouldn't be such income disparity between countries. But the unholy alliance of neo-imperialists and corrupt local politicians limits opportunity for much of the population. No easy answers here. Of course if no money were involved our ladyboys would much rather go with a young Thai guy. I remember one night a garbage truck rolled past Famous Bar and the Famous Girls went gaga over the garbagemen. But I don't think it is as easy as we might think for ladyboys to find the Thai partner of her choice unless she is supporting him. So being young, horny, and full of cum, if she can find a farang sex partner who she doesn't find repulsive then she can get paid and laid then she might think she is doing well for herself if she is the promiscuous type. If not the promiscuous type she can work in a tourist area and keep her eyes peeled for her rusty knight in shining armour.

Good question, QG. I have felt this many times and also expressed this on various forums but that has been as popular as cancer. Its simply nothing that's being considered, at least not in the open. My mongering days are completely different from 10 years ago though so I don't have to contemplate this too often now. Last trip was a 5 month stretch with under 10 paid for sexy time. Excellent points , BB. I have friends who been employees all their life and they look upon themselves as whores or slaves. Go do something every day they don't like for money to be able to survive. One friend even said he'd fuck for money rather than go to his work. Problem is that hes no oil painting and would get zero business. So he goes to work every day and pays for sex while on holiday. Look at the football players today. No loyalty to any club, its all about money. Whores if you ask me. Being on the wrong side of 50 its no secret you're not the catch of the day in a nightclub or bar anymore. To think anything else is self-deceptive and you need to question your own self-image. To bang around in Marine at my age ( 52) and believe you are "scoring" is just pathetic, imo. Some guys may be enjoying Marine for what it is, I personally can't stand it, but thats another topic. Ive met som very nice persons on the job, but also some total lowlifes. Treat people who deserve it with respect , hookers or moneyboys.

Fookin ‘ell, I’m old. I turn 60 this year.

i'm 52 too....hey....nowadays at 52 we are teen-agers!!!!!!!!!!!!!....c'mon

Then again, capitalism by its very nature is exploitive.

“Am I exploiting them?” —QG. I often wonder the same thing. One thing is for sure, as Bumblebee mentioned, most of the ladyboys would not look twice at us old guys if not for the money. So, in that sense, we are taking advantage of (exploiting) an economic situation that works in our favor. The ladyboys are making the best of a difficult socioeconomic situation that leaves them with limited income options. Although no one is putting a gun to their heads, there are very real economic pressures steering them into selling their ass to old farangs for money. This is very much like the economic draft in the US; poor people with limited options obliged to do something they would otherwise not, but for the money. Looks like exploitation to me.

Absolutely correct. Haha Good for you , sustra.

Good point QG. I suppose we could view it in two ways, as a situation that suits both parties, if the girl is enjoying her time with a punter then it could be seen as the same as any job in a way. On the other hand if they had alternative, decent paid employment would they look twice at most of the guys who go with them. Any of us who have ever tried to catch the eye of a gg or lb who doesn’t work the scene, particularly outside the tourist areas, will know it’s the same as back home, they are just not interested in older guys for the most part. So desperation for income does give us that advantage.