Conneticut Man Fathers Child With His Daughter

[pdogg]

A 46-year-old Connecticut man and his 23-year-old daughter told police they weren't certain they were related before beginning a sexual relationship and having a son together, police said in charging them with sex crimes.

George Sayers Jr. and Tiffany Hartford, of Bethel in western Connecticut, were charged Monday with third-degree sexual assault, obscenity and conspiracy after authorities said DNA tests showed Sayers was the father of both Hartford and her baby. Each pleaded not guilty and was being held on bail.

Hartford told police she aspired to be a porn star before she got pregnant, according to arrest warrant affidavits. The infant is now in state custody.

Hartford's public defender didn't return a message Thursday. It's not clear if Sayers has a lawyer. A woman who answered the phone at their home Thursday hung up on a reporter.

The investigation began in February when Hartford's now-former girlfriend complained to police that Sayers didn't get her permission before selling videos and photos of her and Hartford having sex, according to the affidavits.

Questions about the relationship between Sayers and Hartford arose when police executed a search warrant at their home in the pornography investigation. Detectives asked a relative at the house about the couple's relationship, and she told them that "Tiffany is his girlfriend, but we also think that she is his daughter," the affidavits say.

Police then asked Hartford about the relationship and she said Sayers was her boyfriend. When pressed if Sayers was her father, Hartford said she wasn't sure, police said.

Police said Sayers initially told them that Hartford was a friend. He later acknowledged that he was once told he might be her father, but he didn't believe it, the affidavits say. Still later, he told detectives that he or other men, including his deceased brother, could be Hartford's father, and insisted there was no proof that she was his daughter, the affidavits say.

Investigators say they asked Sayers if a paternity test would show that Hartford and her baby were his children, and he responded that it could be a possibility, according to the affidavits.

Danbury State's Attorney Stephen Sedensky declined to comment, citing rules of professional conduct on pending cases. He said incest cases are rare in Connecticut.

The arrest warrant affidavits were first obtained and reported by The News-Times of Danbury, and later by The Hartford Courant. They are now sealed from public view.

The obscenity and conspiracy charges are related to the selling of the videos and photos of Hartford and her former girlfriend, the affidavits say. The girlfriend was 16 or 17 at the time and knew she was being recorded having sex with Hartford, police said. The age of consent in Connecticut is 16.

The third-degree sexual assault charge is a felony that carries one to five years in prison and a fine of up to $5,000. They are accused under a section of the charge that deals with related people.

Sayers is being held on $100,000 bail and Hartford is detained on $25,000 bail. They're due back in Danbury Superior Court on Dec. 21.

[bullseye]

One may think of incest what he wants, but this is sex between consenting adults. Nothing illegal.

[Jimslim]

I hear banjo's ........

[Kahuna]

Chinatown...

[zaronxas]

One may think of incest what he wants, but this is sex between consenting adults. Nothing illegal.

Well, this took place in America - so depending on the jurisdiction, it may well be illegal. There are still places where sodomy is illegal.

To be honest, I don't generally judge anyone for who they fuck -- if they're consenting adults as you said -- but this case creeps me out.

[JaiDee]

Man, those New Englanders are weird people!

check out this one from yesterday, near Boston; this guy is even stranger......who the HELL can get any kind of thrill out of having sex with an 8-day old child?? Hopefully the guys down at Walpole state prison make this fool their bitch, and painfully at that;

http://reading-north...siness-7211744f

"Child victims allegedly ranged in age from 8 days old to 3.5 years old."

[pacman]

I can't bring myself to open that link JD. I know it will just upset me. I don't need to read about some oxygen thief & his weird perversion.

Unless he is kept in solitary, the prisoners will fix him. I have been told that life inside for "rock spiders" (that's the term here for child molesters) is very difficult & the worse the crime & the younger the victim, the harder they make it. In the case of the New Englander, he is dead already. He may be mixing with other law breakers but there are some crimes considered beyond the pale.

There is no ethical debate among them about the sanctity of life, the guy violated an 8 day old child. Among the lifers, there would be great kudos for the man who ends this guy's pathetic existence.

And will anyone weep for the guy once he is gone? I certainly won't.

[Luung]

I don't know what all the fuss is about?.. It's par for the course around here

[Lefty]

So the dude fathered a child with his daughter. In the cattle business, if you have a real top quality bull, to accentuate their best traits they sometimes do what is called line breeding by breeding the bull to his offspring. If the combination nicks pretty well, you can get even more crossbred vigor when you take the bull calf offspring and breed him to another breed of cows, or even another bloodline within the same breed. If the combination does not nick, and you get a knot headed calf, then you just send them to the feed lot and they end up on someone's dinner table.

This dude though was likely not a high quality specimen of his species, So it is a higher than normal chance the kid could be a retard. There is a family in my town, where a pair of 1st cousins married and they had about 10 kids. Half of them turned out pretty normal and about half of them turned out to be simple minded. The simpletons all resemble each other, and the normal siblings basically resemble each other, but just to see them you would never guess each set of kids were all siblings.

Seriously though, for consenting adults who are closely related, is it illegal in every state for them to have sex? Some states allow 1st cousins to legally marry, some allow cousins more removed than firsts to marry, and some do not allow it at all. Of course this is parent and an adult child. They would never allow marriage, but to just have sex, I wonder what the laws are.

[Whateva]

i know a small town where a lot of people have a zipper on the shoulder of their jacket/jumper etc,,,,this is to keep the second head tucked away lol,,,,banjo players lol