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"If she was back home I'd worship the ground she walked on"

a guy said to me in a bar in Hua Hin a couple of years ago in reference to his hot Lb gf. "but I am in Thailand so I don't have to" he added" with a chuckle

As he was in Thailand the temptation to play around behind her back was overwhelming, he was risking ruining a relationship he could never dream of having back home, all because of the abundant amount of temptation all around him.. At the time it got me thinking:

Are the majority of us also likely to play away from home given half a chance in the West, or does Los create the situation that makes even the most committed of us in a monogamous relationship stray from the path because we can. Do we become a different person, someone we never thought we were?

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Khun Bumblebee...Where in the hell do you guys come up with these topics...Have some pity on us old guys...It truly hurts my brain to think about these kinda things...

The best I can come up with here on short notice is to remind all that the human male is a truly unique animal... akin to a chameleon in some respects... and can change color with the snap of a finger...Whatever floor he lands on...Whatever wall he lands on...He adapts...You gotta admit we are a pretty cool animal as animals go that is...Although there are times I think I would have rather been a....................................

I can almost guarantee that every post that follows will prove my chameleon theory...

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The way I look at it is I likely would never get a hot young thing at home (I'm 50 something). And if I somehow got a young thing to come back to the US she would probably fool around on me or leave me altogether. So it servers her right that I fool around on her. :biggrin:

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I don't know if I got the question right, but I'll try to express what this brought to mind.

In most of my relationships, I fucked around on the side - I'd get blown by hookers, or hit the porn booths and get an anonymous bj from the gay men that frequented them. I'd usually do this as I felt I wasn't getting what I needed at home, or because I was bored with the sex at home.

In my last serious relationship (from ages 42-47 or so) I gave a SERIOUS, concerted effort to remain in complete integrity. No sex outside of the relationship, not even any masturbation to porn as this was something that she had asked (no porn) and I willingly agreed.

That whole thing worked for about 3 or 3-1/2 years. I was horny as fuck, but she really turned me on (she really was my dream woman from a physical standpoint) and she gave me as much as I needed most of the time. But then things started to get strained, and at one point it had been something like 5 or 6 weeks without any sex. I've always had a very strong sex drive, and I couldn't take it any longer so I got a bj from one of my old favorite hookers. Although things were already going sour, that was when the wheels really began to come off. Within 18 months it was over.

I've been truly "In LOVE" with capital letters twice in my life - my first love, and her. And despite trying my damnedest to make it work and be fully committed and monogamous, I couldn't do it.

I don't know how to work LOS into this equation though, as I never would have been in LOS if I were trying to be monogamous.

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I remember an old Chris Rock stand up show where he was talking about Bill Clinton and he said "a Man is only as loyal as his options"

In the UK there isn't really too much scope for me to be a butterfly, a) I don't get those kind of offers and B) there would be some kind of Western equivalent of the losing face thing.

The first time I came to LOS in 2009 I was about to embark on a serious relationship in the UK but the timing was terrible, I had only been seeing the girl for a few weeks but I had the trip looming large. I thought I could be loyal but sure enough, after 2 weeks of trekking round and being left to my own devices I ended up having one pop with a GG and then right at the of the trip having that real ground breaking first LB encounter on Walking Street.

If you'd said to me before the trip I'd do those things I would have dismissed you as a mad-man, but once you are over there long enough, I think ones boundaries and morals go out the window pretty quickly.

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@Bumblebee

I think the reason this guy said that and you will hear this same story said by others , is because most guy`s dont trust the Thai ladyboy or GG`s...

Here in The Netherlands we have a say , if you keep repeating a frase long enough after a while people will begin to believe it and the frase will begin to live it`s own life.....

This guy thinks me been here or not she will cheat and lie to me anyway and i have no way to control it so why bother , but if i am at home i am in my safezone and there i have full control of the situation ( which is pure bullshit offcourse )

But i see it as a mind set thing , it`s a trick that your mind is playing with you and your dying to believe that is the case....

When i begin my relationship with my Phillippines princess " Rubi " i hear al sort of comments well until now i prove everybody wrong she is just a angel....

Greetz , Stealth

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The way I look at it is I likely would never get a hot young thing at home (I'm 50 something). And if I somehow got a young thing to come back to the US she would probably fool around on me or leave me altogether. So it servers her right that I fool around on her. :biggrin:

Makes sense to me. :biggrin:

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I try and stick to the Golden Rule and keep things simple and drama free. Same same, here or there. I'm always a gentleman, but I'll never tell an out and out lie -- I may bend the truth a little if it means I can keep from hurting someone's feelings (it's not you, it's me, etc.), though. But I don't want to ask for nor do I wish to provide any long-term entanglements beyond friendship, so find no reason to have to spin any yarns. But then you knew I was going to say something like this. ... :biggrin: But that's what works for me and lets me sleep at night.

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What works for me is to treat each one of them as if they are the one girl in the world when were together, but with no promises for the future as I can't offer one living here.

If I was back home with her ( UK ) then I'd treat her the same.... but also when we weren't togther because we'd be a couple.

Playing around ?? Its because I can here and the male ego needs it's fix.

I think if you have sex with someone else while in a relationship and your partner doesn't consent or know then thats who u are.

You didn't change, you just maybe didnt get the option previously and have just found out something about yourself you didnt know before.

Not really a Los thing but this place surely does bring out the deepest inner passions and secrets we never thought possible or that existed inside of us. Well for me anyway

Thank Budda for immerging countries :movethatass:

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Khun Bumblebee...Where in the hell do you guys come up with these topics...Have some pity on us old guys...It truly hurts my brain to think about these kinda things...

Blame cheap German beer Khun Kahuna. After a few bottles I get a lot of flash backs to conversations I've had in Los over the years which in turn get me thinking. As I don't drink much during the week you will likely be spared any brain teasers till next Friday at the earliest. :drinks:

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  • 2 months later...

men are as loyal as our options and women are as loyal to the man with options who she like's, but if one likes you then not only one always will like you as well. just the way it is and youll have options. thai women are honest in that they like a minor butterfly, its a sign your preselected by other women and that you have charm.  i dont do the ''id kiss the ground u walk on thing with girls'' that i see in thailand when imagineing them back home, no fucking way i do. there all the same in reality its just your options or rather there inconsistantsy that change,,  women in life go from young sweet n sexi to old ugly n used up and sort of shape shift materially, and men are either low middle class or upper and change in the eys immaterially yet clearly materially in the eys of women via our options, i guess if we look at the archeological red light district records of man back to africa before that indonesian volcano went bat shit n created a global warming crisis causeing us to flee northward to pattaya we'd see what they were is what we are,, not monogomous an im guessing that they lied equally about it to keep there options open. B) its a metaphyscial dick thing.

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  • 3 weeks later...

Not sure if it's truly a LOS factor BB. It's more of an opportunity thing. So insofar as LOS offers that opportunity (abundantly and in-your-face), well hell yes! Unless you work with the UN, what else is one doing here? OK, maybe a 'conference' ? Sure, any guy would do it and rationalise it as a fling. What goes in LOS stays in LOS. Or something like that..

 

Short answer? What she doesn't know won't hurt her.. and presumably one goes back to her for the 'real' thing  :unsure: .. or moves to LOS like you know who :sign0181:

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i was sitting last year in Hua Hin in a ladyboy bar with my ex girlfriend....she was there...i was there..other ladyboys were there...i was the only customer....obviously couldn't make a move as my "official" companion was looking at me....sitting...on the booze with tiger....had this moment of lucidity..."what the hell am i doing?".....staying with one girl only???

i felt a disperate need to make love with all of them......

then my companion and i went back to the hotel..she was driving the rented motorcycle...i was embracing her...her nice skin...nice body...nice smile.. i thought " what do you pretend more then this? you are with a nice lb making love 3 times a day, eating nice food, staying at the beach, riding horses with her..."

i felt the disperate need to make love with all of them.....

we went to the night market...choosing a red dress for her...it was so sweet...she was looking great with that satin red dress....we went to eat on the sea at a nice restaurant...i was feeling happy sooooooo much...

i felt the disperate need to make love with all of them.....

the following day we went to the water flea market...was drinking coffee...she was drinking cranberry juice...we went toghether to buy some wine...feeling so happy....

i felt the disperate need to make love with all of them.....

at the airport going back to italy i was feeling sad...she was crying...we hug...i go to the customs...

i felt the disperate need to make love with all of them.....

now..after one year...coming back from the philippines....feeling happy but still......something going on my mind.....

i still feel the disperate need to make love with all of them.....

feeling like a diabetic in a patisserie

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 , but I'll never tell an out and out lie -- 

 

I lie all the time. Its easier. I have no conscience anyway and the Moral compass lost its needle a long time back. When my UK Girlfriend found out about my philandering in the Far East i just split up with her and good riddance too.

 

Man is meant to be promiscuous isnt he. 

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