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A new bar is in action since some weeks with a majority of LB's and a few GG.

When listing ladyboy locations in this thread there was mention of maybe 4 or 5 specific massage spas having ladyboys. In my experience at least 50% of all massage spas in Pattaya have at least one trans-woman on staff. This 50% number is a guess but comes from a combination of spas I have had massages at / spas where I have asked up front if they do have ladyboys / and visually spotting ladyboys in dozens of spas. When I do not see one out front I ask. Which is risky because sometimes they will pull someone out of the back that is no where near my type. And then start telling her, "This guy wants a ladyboy to give him a massage." They are sure they are doing everyone a favour. I have not yet found a diplomatic way to say thanks but you are not my type. So more recently I check who is outside each spa while on my walking route. Waiting for someone I am attracted to to show up one day. I have often had success with this because of course the most desirable ladyboy at the spas will not be visible out front for long because they keep getting work that takes them back inside. Of course this method is not of use to you lads that are in town on a short stay. So you can just ask, are there ladyboys available here? And if you have to say no to the person or persons they deliver, please be kind. It is easy to hurt feelings and of course these transwomen deserve respect. For me I enjoy the mystery of going in for a massage. Is she hunting for a happy ending or not? If she is, what techniques is she going to use to seduce me? Each one has a different style of going about it. I enjoy the ritual. Feeling those hands coming in and out of turn on zones!! And because my cock takes a lot of direct attention to get hard, they are also left wondering if I want a happy ending or not. No erection waving like green flag at an F1 track, indicating go, go, go. Or in this case come, come, come. If I feel they are giving up hope, I will throw in a pleasurable moan, or slightly thrust the pelvic area. So they know the game is still on. Eventually the conclusion is clear in both our minds. Time to negotiate price, who does what to whom, etc.

I don't think ladyboys are better than GGs....... I don't recall a ladyboy ever reproducing...But that ain't true they reproduce all the time...All they gotta do is fuck a GG........And I have met some who do have young'uns running around............. What I mean to say is, to the very best of my knowledge, ain't never been a ladyboy who ever gave birth to a human offspring...Lots of turds....But no babies... So GGs are good for something despite what y'all claim...That's how we all came into this World...By way of that beautiful flower we call a pussy...Although I do know a few folks who might indeed be asshole babies...........But that's a story for another time............. To quote myself from many many many years back on another forum...."A GG might be able to fake an orgasm, but only a ladyboy can fake an entire relationship." The Big Kahuna many many many years ago on the old ATS forum....Still some truth in the old guy's statement.... But it is also true that a ladyboy can also fake an orgasm...All they gotta do is moan a bit and hock a loogie on your back....... We are all fakers in some fashion or other.....................

For all my wonderful trans-friends and their supporters!! Spread the love! I am in a group where the question was raised “WHY ARE LADYBOYS BETTER THAN WOMEN?” I thought it to be a good theme to bring up here as well and look forward to reading people’s comments. I will start by sharing my response to the question. (Note: Although the subject did not include FtoM transgendered people you will see some of the sharing below can be applied to them as well.) Great subject yet I would suggest it is not about who is better. Every person is unique. I will say that in general I appreciate all styles, flavors, cultures and genders of people. I have a pretty big capacity for loving people regardless of whether their flavor would attract me as a friend or not. Now to narrow it down to my personal romantic, emotional and sexual attractions. Why am I more drawn to MtoF transgendered persons (ladyboys) and to hermaphrodites than to genetic females? I trust my attraction to ladyboys and know as I follow what is true for me and honor of the essence of who I am, my life will be benefited. (For the term ladyboy, feel free to substitute transwomen or whatever term is your personal preference > I am using ladyboy as that was the term used in the question) I can share some of the reasons I am more attracted to ladyboys but that does not make them better or worse. Most of the ladyboys I know have a strength of spirit and courage that I admire. I love that that have been true to themselves and live as women even in a world full of prejudice against them. We could all learn from them > to be true to who we are whether others like it or not. As ladyboys are teaching us > how can we possibly be happy unless we first live in a manner that is true to the essence of who we are. Of course this applies to every aspect of who we are, gender is just an example of one aspect. Typically because of challenges that ladyboys have had to go through in their transformation to women, they tend to have built strong characters. And they often have a compassion for other people's struggles because they know from firsthand experience what it is like to struggle. So many ladyboys have big hearts! (Sadly for some ladyboys, the struggles and challenges have turned them bitter instead. But I can certainly understand why that can happen.) I find that the majority of ladyboys really own, celebrate, and live from their femininity which is super attractive to me. Many genetic women don't. Many (not all) ladyboys are very skilled sexually. It probably comes from having been born in a male body so they typically know much better about what pleases a man. Many ladyboys carry a sensual, sexy, aura about them almost all the time. I am attracted to the combination of all that femininity with a blend of some masculinity mixed in. My personal preference is for ladyboys that are non-op, that enjoy and love to use their penis. (Of course I support any ladyboy in having SRS [sexual reassignment surgery] if that is what is true for them. It would just mean that I would be attracted to them as a friend but not be attracted to them as a partner.) In my experience ladyboys tend to be much more straight forward when it comes to sexuality. Most do not play the kind of "push/pull" games that many genetic women do. In my experience most ladyboys tend to embrace their sexuality whereas many genetic women tend to carry some shame around their sexuality that keeps them repressed or thinking they have to hide it even when they may desire it. This leads to the back and forth games that get played out. My preference is for people to be straightforward about what they do and do not want. In the area of sexuality my experience has been that most ladyboys are straightforward. This is refreshing and adds to them having an attractive personality. And as someone pointed out to me that made me laugh > “You can tell she is not faking orgasm.” On a more esoteric global consciousness level I appreciate ladyboys for the following. I think more and more ladyboys are being born onto the planet to play an important part in lifting the collective consciousness to a higher, more evolved level. Ladyboys help bust people out of old black and white gender thinking. Too many people are stuck in thinking they have to live a certain way that conforms to societies norms around gender. Ladyboys have the ability by their very presence to bust people out of that stuck way of thinking. Ladyboys are teachers that show people that it is okay for each individual to be true to whom they are even if it goes against societal and cultural norms. I hope that any ladyboy that has taken the time to read through this will be left with a feeling of even more empowerment. Will stand even taller in whom they are. Will know that they are appreciated and loved and in fact needed to be here. Know that when you face and move through struggles that you are doing the ground work for making this world a better place for generations to come. Your courage is admired and appreciated. I am sorry that we still live in a world with much prejudice and that you have had to live through that. Thanks for helping transform prejudice into acceptance. My heart and support goes out to you.

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Hmmm RocketSquirrel Thanks for the creative write up. Totally caught my attention and turned me into another moth! I went looking for the flame Dec. 3, 2014. Ah the ever changing faces of Pattaya. I walk every where through the arab quarter. This what I found. If you go in off second road and take the southern part of the "Y". On the left (south) side of the street you will find a quiet little restaurant called Layla"s. I saw one customer in there. If you go in on the Northern fork of the "y", when it takes a bend left to join the forks together, you go right through a passageway and you will run right into Layla's bar at the end. Very large bar. No loud music. Basically empty with the exception of a few very Asian bar staff. Saw one customer sitting at the bar. No Arab flavors. No obvious trans-women. This moth was still hoping Layla's 3 would turn out the experience that was written about. So I fluttered up and down every little street or pretend to be street in the whole area. I am pretty sure if there was a 3 I would have found it. Okay that is a heads up for those with hopes up like myself.

Here's last year's Christmas Ladyboy Pageant in Burma.

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Will be ready for your next visit, bumblebee!

One of the things that I really appreciate about LB's is the fact that they don't lose their minds for nearly a week every month. My girl does have hormonal related emotional breakdowns about once a quarter. But they usually last a day or two and are not nearly as severe as the psychotic breaks that some of my GG girlfriends had on a monthly basis in the past.

Hi all I would just like to wish you all a very safe and happy festive season. And hope Santa brings you the Ladyboy of your dreams. Cheers big ears

If you look at the "P" in the word PARADISE , Guess Bar is/was just below that on the location map above , in the corner of the car park Its not called Guess Bar now but something like CHAOS 9 from memory Anyway the new Paradise Bar looks a bit dead to me and not inviting.. maybe bad Feng Shui on the location..its a bit of a dead spot there. Still i wish them all the best whatever

Elvin Bishop - Fooled Around and Fell in Love ELO - Stepping Out The Coronas - Someone Else's Hands Jim Croce - I Got a Name Tom Baxter - Better The Temptations - Just My Imagination The Who - Won't Get Fooled Again The Rolling Stones - Give Me Shelter Marvin Gaye - What's Going On The Trammps - Disco inferno

From the 950 Condotel up to the top of Fields Avenue and Walking Street is only just over a 5 minute walk, here is a view from the top of the Condotel where you have breakfast and also can chill out with a beer at the bar

The reception is on the 3rd Floor from which you get a Lift (Elevator) too, the Lift has a swipe card system so only residents can use it plus there is a security guard situated near it too