Luung

Sad news... Just heard that Suzy (AKA, Suzy Salami) has just died! I've heard that the cause was lung cancer, but I'm really not sure of any details?.. But there had been a bit of a buzz going on about her illness since Xmas.. All her chums were calling it an anxiety attack, bless em' She wasn't actually my type, but I always liked her & thought she was a lot of fun... And what an almighty addition to the scene, she was! She's going to be missed by a lot of people! R.I.P. Suzy

Glad it went ok for you, seriously!.. I did the later part of my growing up in a pub & that pretty much put me off both New Year's eve & Xmas eve, for good.. I just got so sick of seeing everyone at their absolute worst. I even got my nose broke when I was sixteen by a couple of local thoughies who were in their thirties... So, I'm more than happy to sit it out at home with a few movies & a handful of joints nowdays, & just wait for the carnage to be over

philistine

Bloody hell, Tomcat, that's a coincidence & a half with those seven inch singles!.. BTW,I very much share your taste in those cutely exquisite little LB's too!!! Shame you never got to see the great man in action, I only saw him a few times at a couple of the Brixton Academy all nighter's that he used to pull... But I have also got a slightly more dubious claim to fame, for getting pissed with him a few times in Stingfellow's (London, not Patts 555)... But I went into that story in detail on one of Jim's threads so I won't gild the lily & name drop too much. Here's the original Hawkwind version of Motorhead... Bit softer with the ole' Roy Wood sax & oboe sound in the background... Violas, violins & all sorts going on... I love it!!

Kendo, Jim & Gary... I remember that when I first lost my ex, unfortunately due to certain financial circumstances that forced her to shove off back to Patts & make some money; the very fist bloke on the scene that she walked into paid her 10K per night & bought her a brand new fuckin' iphone along with a whole new wardrobe of really fancy designer stuff... In many cases they don't just tell their mates, they've got enough lack of respect for these potential tit & shoe buyers that tell us too 55555! & in spite of his younger age, good looks & bulging pockets, she had nothing but contempt for him... I've said it before a few times, these bar girls are incredibly working class minded kids from piss poor backgrounds & they feel a lot more resentment than you might think towards the privileged, whether they be their own hi-so's or ours!.. The point is, she didn't ask for it, but at the time, for many a forum nerd there was still a certain cache' about this well known bird who'd been off the scene for a few years... And he was willing to throw vast amounts of money at her, so as to carry whatever favor he could & bomb the competition out of the water. My mate who overindulged with good ole' Nancy is exactly the same... He's got no shame what so ever, & advertises to them that he's a cashed up old geezer... He'll happily pay the extra & play for the advantage. & has I stated above, him & his type relish in widening the gap between themselves & the rest of us, (& to them, that's all part of what having the money's about) There's givers & takers in life... And many are giving to take.. But mainly to take away from us, unfortunately

I think he'd have probably just said, Rock n' Roll, Tomcat... But I'm with you, it's heavy rock But what I do remember is that, when I was into punk in the mid seventies, him & both his bands Hawkwind & Motorhead were just about the only heavy rocks outfits which were both loved & also condoned by the punk movement!.. Now that's really something! And as for my first hearing of Silver Machine in 1971 at a market stall, whilst out shopping with my mum at eleven years old... It totally blew my mind & turned my whole world upside down... It changed me & helped make me... Really did! I went back a few weeks later with all my combined Xmas & birthday money and bought my first ever seven inch singles, Silver Machine, Hawkwind, Virginia Plain, Roxy Music & Jeepster, T Rex.... What a way to start a music collection!!!! And haven't looked back since

Shit, what bad news about Jimmy Hill! Really sad news today... Lemmy Kilmister's dead... Awful way to go into a new year & another personal hero down. The snake eyes are watching you, take one look and die... THE ACE OF SPADES!

I used to know Bruce Foxton, Duke Anyway... HOW COULD I HAVE FORGOT THIS BLOKE, I COULD HAVE CHANGED PLACES WITH LEMMY ANY DAY OF THE WEEK... Met him too, and he was most certainly no disappointment! R.I.P. What a man... And what an arsehole of a way to start the new year Can't paste at the mo

Fukin' hate the place, it's a shit house full of grinning nitwits & fakes, hopelessly trying to make out that they're having fun & enjoying themselves above all that deafing noise I just don't get it

Well as I said before Route 67, I've got no problems about the bar's pricing, 500 Baht for barfine, plus room for a ST, is a really good deal in my book... And 300 baht to take one out is brilliant! But, as for the rest of it, I'll take you back to what my former ex, who actually owned an LB bar for 20 years relayed to me when we split up... She scathingly said to me as I was taking the last of her possessions out of my car, "And if you go with ladyboy, you only pay 200/300 baht.. That's all it's worth here, yoo soo fukin' stupid". Now, I'm not expecting a bunk up for 200 or 300 hundred baht... But I more than got her point!.. To a Thai it's a painted boy from the village with plastic tits & a micro miniskirt whoring himself out, no more (Yeah, the sweet lovely ones are out there too, but I'm predominantly talking about the bar fare)... So, how can we justify the 500 Baht for an LT ten years ago, going to 1K to then 1.5K & now going steadily higher, & higher??... You've just mentioned the 2K yourself (admittedly performance based), & other's are happily paying 3/4/5K & more. And it ain't no supply & demand thing, we know that... So what is it? A mixture of feelings of exclusivity & need for both the boy with the big feet in the short skirt & the forum anorak, or what? Yes, it's up to them, I very much take your point... It just makes me vomity, that's all

You know, I've really wrestled with this, but the more I think about it, the more I'm happy about the shift to internet based liaisons, & that's in spite of the fact that I still very much like to go out for a night on the piss.. And the reason for that is simple, I don't have to go into these fukin' ladyboy bars anymore... Yipeeeeeee!!!.. Now, I definitely don't want to see them disappear completely, that's for sure, I just don't want to spend much time in any of them. I now go out almost exclusively to drink with my mates in environments that suite me, with good company, i.e. real raconteurs having real conversations, drinking the beers that I want to drink & listening to music that suites me without any cunt trying to twist my arm up my back, filling me with lies & usually rudely trying to make me buy them an expensive drink, just for them being there. I'm like Foggy, I want to tick ever box & then fill up half a page explaining all the other stuff that I just can't tolerate any more At any rate, I'm not going to state the obvious about the afore mentioned 'pet hates'.... But my pet 'other' hate is whether inadvertently or not, these bars are constantly raising the bar on cost... Fuck me, you've even got a couple of saps on the other forum saying that 2,000 baht for an ST (including the room & BF) in the New Sensations, is a bloody good deal & a BM mate from the other forum says he's just paid the same in La Bamba... And he's happy as punch about it too! "So, Hello", is there something I'm missing here???.. Both these bars policies & pricings are fine & I know & like the people behind them, but 1.5K for a ST is what the desirable girls in a shit house like Pattaya are starting to ask for.. And they're getting it, without any problems what so ever... And It'll be even more next year, you see. They've started throwing out even higher numbers here in Chiang Mai too... I just can't watch it without getting vomity (The, by the nature of it, incredibly in exclusive bar whore placing herself on some exclusive platform) & then the cash laden punter, flashing the coin, happy to pay more & more because it makes him feel pleased with himself, just like he's the 'man', gabbing all that fake exclusivity all for himself, whilst at the same time accelerating away from the mass, by blowing any other poor cunt on a low budget out of the water. Right that's my little Sunday morning rant over... I'm off to the pub

55555... Look, it's a very funny video & a must see view of a certain slice of life, right down at the very depths of society where it's all truly awful... & I know exactly what you mean, he was a first class bag of runny dog shit who I wouldn't stick up for either... But that's not actually what I was saying. I'm condemning 'Thai' sycophants in general, who are so far up Thai arseholes that they'll stick up for these people every single time, whether it's an LB smashing some old man's face in or sticking a stiletto in some poor sods head, to taxi drivers & jet ski operators filling in their customers on a daily basis without any compunction what so ever... It's truly vomit inducing listening to this stuff. Duke, I've seen it myself, where you'll get the same punishment dealt out, as seen above, for just questioning a vastly pumped up bill in certain karaoke bar areas of Chiang Mai... And what's more, I've seen the little shits beforehand, jumping up & down on their toes, filling themselves full of adrenalin & anticipation, waiting just like a sprinter, eager to explode like a loaded spring down a track... Only this time it's straight into your face!!! These little thugs are waiting for it, relishing it & then reveling in it. Merry Crimble to you too

Thanks Pdogg

If I could change places with any other, it would have probably been Paul Robeson.. What a fukin' man, a great sportsman, communist (when you weren't meant to be) & musician... Probably the most overly talented man of our recent history!

Jeeeezus, Duke... I grew up wanting to be Bryan Ferry too... Saw Roxy Music three time when I was a teen & even modeled myself on Ferry through till my early twenties, going to Anthony Price (Roxy's designer) for many of my clothes... Even had a Byan Ferry hair cut (it was a known term, them days) (and yes, I even had great hair them days too)5555 I've even sat in on many Eno seminars at Medway Art College where he does talks for free, or at least he used to. And did you know that in recent times, Bryan Ferry has even been Gucci's man of the year for three years running! Anyway, Roxy was, to my mind, apart from King Crimson, had to be the most ahead band of that period anywhere on the planet, maybe a bit too avant garde & quirky to stand the test of time? But a truly inspirational band, that helped mold the styles & the sounds of the future to come... They were so underrated! Funnily enough, Ferry's, Jealous Guy, is my second favorite version, next to Frankie Miller's (known for pop songs, but fuck, could he sing the blues)!... Anyway, I'd love to change places with him too!... Last I heard, still managing to get in punch ups with his audiences at gigs in pubs around North London, not bad for a bloke in his sixties.

They put on a frock & come to us, of course!

Oh, for fucks sake, Sam... You'll be sticking up for them next! The Brit is an embarrassment & an out right wanker, it's a shame trash like that get's in the country.... But he was blind sided by a coward, the worst kind of coward, one with some experience who knew how to hit. and Dave, how can you be such an apologist & applaud that? This is the kind of stuff that really makes me have a problem with these forums... You're all lovely blokes, but for fucks sake, pleeeeeeease, would it be that hard to try & stick up for the white guy, just once?

These sort of issues are so difficult for me, because on one hand, I think people who don't research what a place is like & all the pit falls which may be encountered within it, are usually the types that do the most disrespectful & distasteful stuff, so it's hard for me to find that much sympathy for them... If they've got enough money to get on the plane then they should have enough nouce to find out what a certain culture's people can behave like! But, I equally am disgusted by a culture that invites us in on mass & then refuses to punish or curtail the mostly cowardly & brutish actions dealt out to us by the petty gangsters who've obviously been taken under the wing of the police & know that they can deal out beatings to most of us, with impunity... It drones on & on the same old stories over & over again, year after year, nothing ever done, nothing ever likely to change, in my time, that's for sure. How many times has it been said that the Phuket taxi mafia is going to be quashed?????.. They know we're weak, scared & soft, they know they can phob us off with any old shit & we'll forgive them, maybe apologize to them, even?... They know we'll go anywhere & tolerate anything for a cheap holiday. We should stop using their cabs & jet skies, pure & simple... But too many of us are weak... Change your karma, for fuck sake. Fuck all of them, bunch of cunts! The stupid tourists & the arsehole Thai, skinny little, sickening, gangsta bully boys. Rant over PS. For fuck's sake get your 'quote' button sorted out Pdoggg, I really wanted to reply to Sustra Great last line, by the way, Sustra!

It doesn't work for me in Thailand, Pdoggg.... Wish it did, it'd be a god send, but it's cack

I look at the Chiang Mai pages on TF & there's such an array, that it stretches from out n' out, thieving, shit dog, sewer rats, right through to some really nice, sincere LB's who really would like to meet someone. I had one stay last night, & I've been seeing her on and off for well over a year now. She works for 'Empower', spending a lot of her time trying to educate & help prozzies in the bars to get a better life (should they want it)? Whilst spending her days holding down a job which she works extremely hard at... Man, I've been doing this scene for eighteen years now & she's just about one of the nicest & most sincere that I've ever met, she's a real quality person, who isn't too cynical to think that she can't one day find true love. I help her out a bit, but nothing's ever been asked for. Anyway, with regard to the Chiang Mai pages, it's a real mixed bag... I'd guess somewhere about fifty percent of them are out & out whoring, whilst the rest range from nice enough, 'straightish' girls who'd like a good time, maybe leading too something more? Plus, hopefully a bit of extra cash in their purses (which isn't frowned upon in this part of the world)... Right through to almost naïve girls looking for a white knight.

Is that little, Eva, bottom pic on the right? I'm pretty sure that it is... Anyway, she'll be in her mid thirties now & she's holding up pretty darn well.... She used to be one of my very favorite ladyboys, years ago. Personality wise, just about one of the nicest you're ever going to meet in Pattaya... Well recommended for the GFE

Well there you go, Mark, 6 +1's.... Good call with dropping the price of the bar fines!.. It'll win you a lot of friends

Well, if it's feedback you're after... It seems like a great venue, but with bar fines at 800 baht a pop, I'll give it a miss, thanks. & so will a lot of other people will too... And they won't necessarily be cheap Charlie's either, there'll be a lot of good spenders who just think that the bar fine price is a bit rich, especially by comparison to other LB venues in town. It's a shame, I'd have really loved to have had another LB establishment to visit in Pattaya

I'm a bit like that too, Ken

In all honesty, I think that there's something up with someone who can't connect mentally, emotionally & physically with someone of their own age. If the connection's right, all that superficial stuff should go right out the window. I remember, one night back in the late eighties, at my then fiancé's mum's party, stuffing one of the mother's friends... I was 27 & she was a very sexy, sparkly 60, but fuck was it good!... the cum came out like fuckin' Christmas pudding, it was all over the place!