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Interesting topic Pdogg and Steve makes some very good points. As a customer and a bar owner I will give you my perspective. As a customer I have had this crop up many times when barfing a girl and I have always said why should I pay a barfine when the girl is a freelancer, I just couldnt get my head around it. At Sensations we have a mix of staff and freelancers, when we set up the bar I asked Paeng what is the situation with barfines for our freelancers, her answer didnt agree with me and I argued the case but when she put hers forward I had to agree with her. When a girl asks if she can work at our bar we give them the choice of freelancing or being paid staff. If they are staff they have to start and finish at a certain time, the freelancers can come and go as they please. In a lot of respects the girls are not true freelancers they are more like staff working flexible hours. Customers pay a barfine whether the girl is staff or flexible and its not so much about the money because what the bar gets is a very small amount, its about the principle. Our barfines are 300 baht, staff will receive 100 baht of this, the bar gets 200, flexible staff get 200 baht, the bar receives 100, as you can see the bar gets a very small amount from the flexible staff. With all girls you have a comeback from the bar, if there is a problem and we know that its the girls fault you will get your barfine back. Paeng will also give the girls free drinks throughout the night as a kind of payment. I think the problem mainly arises when you own a beer bar, I doubt if horny bar or baby boom have ever had a complaint about paying the fine on a freelancer, I believe this is because the girls work from inside the building, our girls mainly sit on the customer side unless they are serving drinks. The guys that will moan about the fines are probably the same guys that would have taken many Ezy girls and without a complaint, yet 99% were freelancers, its also believed that Pooks are all staff, wrong, many are freelancers. Sensations have already had one comment in a trip report about paying the barfine on one of our freelancers, yet we are doing nothing different to any other bar in Pattaya. Like I say its about the principle, if you owned a shop selling watches would you allow a competitor to sit in your shop with a sign saying we sell the same watches but they are cheaper! thats why Paeng has made it very clear to the freelancers that if they take a customer a barfine has to be paid whether the customer or the girl pays it. They are under no illusions that if Paeng catches the girls cheating her she will knock them from one end of the bar to the other. If you really want a freelancer then beach road is full of them but we all know the risks, owning a bar in Thailand is by no means a money making machine so there has to be a bit of give and take on both sides.

Your comment 'entertainment or the truth' implies that it was unbelievable does it not. Its pointless trying to converse with someone about a programme that they have not even seen, you comment on Jerrys points believing that his criticism is correct without watching it to have an opinion of your own. Pointless and fatuous, at least Jerry watched it before giving an in depth opinion.

All great movies Lefty. If you like Snatch you may find this quite funny.

Buba you imply that there was no truth to the show, sorry but your wrong, there were no lies in the show, just a view of ladyboys that differed to how Jerry wanted to see them portrayed. Are there ladyboys in relationships, Yes Are there Showgirls, yes Are there business Ladyboys, Yes Are there ladyboys working the streets, yes Are there ladyboys in legitimate jobs, yes Were all these portrayed, yes, was the truth shown about all of these, yes. Your commenting on something you havent even seen, unbelievable.

Ive heard that too Lefty, maybe somebody in Brixton can tell us if its true or not 555. Same with Geordies, you had to be born at a certain place on the Tyne, now anybody from the north east is called a fekin Geordie.

Of course you are, anyone south of Manchester is a cockney in my book, your all the fekin same to me 555. Every idiot calls me a Geordie which is complete bollocks and an insult, so live with the fact that your all cockneeeeey southern softies. Doesnt mean I dont love you any more

Jerry you have some good views but Zaronxas is right, it was made for the public who mainly have no idea what a Thai ladyboy really is or how some of them live their lives. Sky like any TV company are after viewing figures, if they had gone too deep on the first documentary the average person would have switched off. When Sky commissioned the series they said if they got half a million viewing figures it would be a great sucess, they achieved over a million with every episode, it was getting more viewers than Sky One during the hour the show was on, I think that tells the story of what the British public want to see. They also wanted to keep it clean, they said nudity was not what they were after, they also cut swearing out, this was under the orders of Sky, and to be honest why is there a need to see a cock, we all know its there do we really have to see it to confirm it. If I see a war veteran on TV I dont need to see the scars to believe that his legs were blown off. Can you also imagine how hard it would be for the film crew to go to the likes of Tiffanys and say 'lets see your cock', yes they could get a girl off the street to show them it but wheres the story, how does it tie in, or do they say heres a ladyboy and heres her cock, now back to David and his girlfriend. Most of the episodes were about showgirls or individuals and I dont think anyone would have been expecting to see Paengs or Annies cocks seeing as they are in relationships. The comment about every ladyboy has a sad story is very true but that is also relative to nearly every man and woman on this planet at some stage of their lives, its not restricted to ladyboys. I do agree that too much was shown about the showgirls, it was good to see that side but I would have preferred to hear more of the street girls stories. They are planning on season two which will go more in depth and will maybe answer some of your questions but the first series was to give people a glimpse of some ladyboys without scaring the viewers off or making them switch off due to being too deep. They had to walk before they can run and personally I think they made a good series and this is the first negative opinion I have heard from a board member, but all opinions are good and thanks for posting your views.

I dont know about being connected by 1 or 2 degrees BB, however I think most of us here have shared DNA at some time or another

555 I looked at the girl lying on the pool table and thought 'oooohhh who is that', it looks like Chocolate, but then I saw the tits, turned my laptop side on and realised its my missus. Gutted........... I was getting excited for a minute there 555

Willie the next time I come to see you I'm bringing you my porn collection because yours is shit. Took me over an hour to cum watching that rubbish

I think the boy in the ad looks like a young Travis Bickle

Great to hear that Foggy, thank you. Hope you have a great holiday and im sure the girls will look after you.

Sam I cant thank you enough for you help in valuating my staff all for the cause, what a true gent you are, I thought charity began at home but through your unselfish actions I see that I am wrong. Due to this I will gladly hide her for you, but Duke gets his nose into places a draught wouldnt so I cant guarantee anything

You may be correct Mardhi, Paeng tells me she used to work in walking street then left the scene for a long time, at which point she lost touch with her, I will try to find out more but I think Fie knows a bit about her now so im sure he will post when he gets home.

Couple of pics courtesy of Fie dollah who is in his room right now trying to break her spine.

Just thought I would warn you guys that apparently Nam has a rather large cock. Wouldnt want you to get a shock

Think you are right, it rings a bell, cheers Pdogg.

New member of Staff Nam

5555 very funny Willy, imagine if they showed that on tv now.

I thought someone would have known where she is from by now, Paeng did tell me she thought it was famous but I cant seem to find her in any threads, havent looked right through it though. She can come and work for us any time she likes, shes one of the best ive seen.

Never thought of it like that Duke, good thinking, sort of like russian roulette but with the weapon going off inside your mouth if your lucky. I think the majority of guys here go with GG's so it gives guys a choice depending on how the mood takes them.

For those guys that like to reach the depths of depravity and go completley gay ie dabble with real girls, we have our first GG. WE WILL BE GETTING MORE SO IF YOU DONT WANT TO SEE LOOK AWAY NOW. Ming Taken with an iphone but you get the idea.

Thanks Duke

Theres a pool table !!!!!!! Wondered where that had gone

You fekin live there, it doesnt count 555