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Manliness and bottoming are still seen by many ladyboy mongers as contradictory, which leads some of us to refuse to even consider it (like our most off-the-beaten path BM) or to be ambivalent about it and not enjoy it as often or as thoroughly (like myself). Of the mongers who enjoy it (the majority of BMs here I suspect) most keep quiet about it, the one exception in our Board being our illustrious fellow BM who was prison-style raped 6 times in one night alternating between the shower and the bed and posts about it every chance he gets. It's not that I don’t enjoy being penetrated. I totally love being fingered by the GGs when I missionary top them, or when they are blowing me. I am also game for strap on bottoming which I view as the price I have to pay for routine anal access into the ladies wearing the straps. But with the ladyboys it’s case-by-case. With only a very few it happened spontaneously that they showed eagerness to fuck me. The rest it never happens unless I propose it, which I only do with repeat partners. This has mostly to do with their own notions of femininity, which they may put ahead of their sexual pleasure. If I insist it means I have to choose between having them in the subservient feminine kathoey mode or becoming a bit of a kathoey myself (for Thais "kathoey" has a default strictly passive sex connotation). I always choose the former for the sake of the overall sex and GFE. Let me give an example: 3 years ago I met this 18 yo filipino sissy who had never gone past giving blowjobs (or so she said). On our first time in bed during the foreplay I put my mouth to her cock and she jumped in horror at the thought of role reversal. I told her to close her eyes and relax, and then I licked a little lower while jerking her off to orgasm. Then I took her virginity (or so she said). I became her sex teacher and 2 or 3 sessions later I slid a condom on her cock and sat on it. She fussed and protested, but took to it like a duck to water and ejaculated in less than 30 seconds once she got me positioned doggystyle. We did it 4 or 5 more times after that and each time the same reluctance followed by quick intense release. But the fact that she never showed interest led me to stop asking and on my last trip I was with her at least 10 nights (she now has a daytime office job) and she never fucked me once and we were both OK with that. BMs who are open-minded (and open-assed) enough to post about their bottoming, may want to share how that affects their overall roleplay interaction with the sissies? Especially those BMs in long term relationships where the intimacy should be there to put sexual pleasure ahead of gender pretense and where the much younger sissy partners presumably rise to the occasion more often than the elderly farang ones …