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Yes please do that Snoop. Not just for the sake of the little guy. Also yours: Creative TRwise you can meet your match only here. At the other board you have a greater audience but you are posting along with Little League level TRs. Plus here you dont have to self-censor about who you travel with (although that's the best part of your TRs in the Little League how you (suavely) tapdance around their censorship)... It would be a brilliant endeavor if you and I could jointly do a TR alternating posts (from the same or different locations depending where on the PH we are) or telling the same occurrences from different POVs, but at the other board they are so thick and mean they would rather prevent Michelangelo from teaming up with Da Vinci to create a masterpiece... I am sure here at LBR it would be welcome. Think about it... Cheers. Stay Excellent and Party On!
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Pulci Gorgon replied to Pulci Gorgon's topic in Mongering without frontier's Photos and videos
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Pulci Gorgon replied to Pulci Gorgon's topic in Mongering without frontier's Photos and videos
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Pulci Gorgon replied to Pulci Gorgon's topic in Mongering without frontier's Photos and videos
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Twitter : The Last Nonsense that Proves LazyNomad Didn’t Get It Vietnamese ladyboys used to rely on a popular local messenger and social network. They would post ads on websites I’ve already mentioned, and from there, clients could contact them via messenger. However, since they often posted nude pictures to attract customers, their accounts were shut down due to censorship (I explained this in detail on my blog). By 2020, they had started migrating to Twitter, but censorship also applies there. By January 2021, I had already noticed changes on Twitter and assumed I could keep expanding my address book using it. That turned out to be a major mistake, which partly explains why my 2022 trip was tough. Simply put, many ladyboys behave like regular people. They don’t create Twitter accounts for p4p advertising but use the platform for networking, just like anyone else. Trying to contact a ladyboy for sex dating when she’s not openly in p4p is a waste of time. Once again, LazyNomad missed the point. Smart ladyboys in p4p use Twitter the way ordinary users do. Once I’ve met one in person, I always try to establish another way to stay in touch as a backup. A Twitter account without explicit advertising is the best backup—if it openly promotes prohibited activities or displays nude photos, the Vietnamese police will have it shut down. That said, I do sometimes come across such accounts that remain active. They usually follow one simple rule: no nude pic and no explicit offers. Instead, they use coded language, which I’ve learned to recognize over time that works as well as explicit offers. In the end, the best way to find ladyboys is to follow the right process—just like SaigonRoamer and I did.
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About Little Japan What else can I post that I haven’t posted before ? Even videos remain actual. From : Trip report for a virtual trip What Lazy Nomad claims in his video sounds like nonsense once again. "Many offices discreetly advertise the presence of ladyboys, and with a keen eye, you’ll find plenty of interesting venues to visit." When I wrote the above lines in my 2020 TR, I wasn’t entirely sure whether there were ladyboys in LJ. But after revisiting and exploring the area in 2022, I can confidently say I haven’t seen a single one. And if there were any, I’m quite certain I would have noticed them—especially in Japanese bars where everything is visible from the outside. Lazy Nomad also failed to mention that the area isn’t just filled with Japanese-style bars but also many massage shops. I even asked several girls in the street about ladyboys working inside, but none gave a positive answer. Conclusion: Another urban legend debunked. Little Japan is worth a visit if you're in Saigon, but don’t waste your time chasing ghosts. I had come across this nonsense on the so-called 'sister forum' of PY. I directly questioned the guy who claimed there were ladyboys in Little Japan. His argument? He supposedly met one—a Pinoy ladyboy, LOL—in June 2020, at a time when travel to Asia was severely restricted (especially to Vietnam, which had implemented a near-total travel ban in April 2020 ). On top of that, non-essential businesses in HCMC remained closed until the end of what South Vietnamese themselves referred to as the 'blocus' in 2021—a period marked by severe lockdowns, barbed-wire barriers, and military-controlled roadblocks. It’s astonishing how some people try to exploit loopholes to spread fake information, and I still wonder what the motive was. As for me, I remain convinced that ladyboys haven’t been present in Little Japan since my last tripin November 2022. Of course, a visit to the area would be needed to confirm (or disprove) this claim." When it came to massage, I used to visit a spa on Thái Văn Lung every other day. I had found a forum of Western roamers familiar with spas and hớt tóc—a type of barbershop that also offered massages, often sought out for sexual services. However, I always stuck to my personal rule: I never mix massage with sex. I even asked some of these guys about ladyboys, but despite their deep familiarity with the venues they frequented, they had no clue how I could find one. Thai massages in Vietnam are quite expensive (300 to 400K VND, up to THB 600), yet the masseuses don’t hold diplomas from the Wat Pho school. They tend to apply very strong pressure and claim that “the more it hurts, the better.” Personally, I preferred my spa, where I always requested a 90-minute Shiatsu massage from an elderly lady. I can’t say for sure if it was authentic Shiatsu, but it was exactly the kind of massage that suited me.
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Part of the video focuses on nightclubs and bars. I wish Lazy Nomad had distinguished between the two, as he used the term 'bars' for both types of venues. The first part covered nightclubs I’m not very familiar with, like Lush Bar and Candy Bar. A quick check on Google Maps shows they’re somewhat removed from the main nightlife areas. I had wandered through this part of District 1 at night a few times and had come across clubs like these. Honestly, I couldn’t say for sure whether it was Lush or Candy Bar, but they seemed like typical nightclubs where the middle and upper class go to enjoy themselves. Definitely not the kind of bars we go to look for ladyboys. A sequence supposedly shot in qui Cuisine shows ladyboys behind a bar. For what I saw, they are partying together, not hooking up. However, if you want to check with these ones, just be advised I recognized a few I blacklisted as aggressive and scammers just before covid hit Vietnam. However, Lazy Nomad made a significant error by mentioning Zion Sky Lounge, a place I've known since the early days of the COVID pandemic. I first heard about Zion Sky Lounge when I discovered that Hà worked there, back when Vietnam allowed non-essential businesses to reopen but before international travel had resumed. I had considered it a great spot to invite a ladyboy and perhaps convince her to stick around a bit longer. By 2022, Hà had moved on, but I found out that Mộc Nhi was now working there. Strangely enough, despite keeping in touch with Mộc Nhi for a long time, I never managed to meet her in person. I did visit Zion one evening when she wasn’t there, but at least I got to see the place. It’s a mix of bar, nightclub, and restaurant, with upscale pricing. As far as I remember, I ordered the cheapest glass of wine on the menu, which ended up costing me over 500K VND (more than 750 THB) after taxes and service charges. The venue caters to a well-off clientele—not necessarily the wealthiest, but people who have money and prefer to spend it away from the middle class or the typical Western traveler riffraff. Pic : courtezy of Google maps Since Mộc Nhi is likely a smart person, she opted for a stable and fairly well-paid job rather than relying on short-term modeling contracts. I messaged her last week to verify the information I had. Her response was definitive. She doesn’t know another ladyboy at Zion and it’s not a lady bar. Thank you Mộc Nhi The other part of the video focuses on ‘Pasteur Street and its surrounding alleys’. Once again, it seems that Lazy Nomad summarized what he read in my trip report without truly understanding the details. I first visited Pasteur Street in 2018 after hearing that one or two ladyboys were working in a bar at 60 Pasteur Street. When I checked, they were no longer there. In 2019, I established contact with Kate, who had previously posted an ad on a gay website. I knew how to use certain apps to reach out to her, and she explained that she was managing Senorita bar on Pasteur Street. I ended up spending some great moments there in November 2019, mostly with Uyên, who sadly passed away in September 2020. Besides Kate and Uyên, another ladyboy, Trinh, was also working there, but I had already covered these details in my 2019 trip report. By 2022, Senorita Bar had moved to its current location at 8 Huỳnh Thúc Kháng. So, if I understand correctly, Lazy Nomad considers Huỳnh Thúc Kháng mainly as the "surrounding alleys." He likely also included Tôn Thất Đạm Street (DTTD), where I had spent the final hours of my last night in 2019 with Hoàng Yến, in an annex of Next Bar called Loca Bar. Back in 2019, I had found ladyboys at Next Bar and had also seen a few more at Martini Bar and Cheers. However, Loca Bar and Next Bar never reopened after COVID, and several bars have since changed names. In 2022, the only place where I could still find ladyboys was Lust Bar, but it later closed and became Lusti Bar. Since Lazy Nomad wasn’t able to showcase many ladyboys, he simply stated that ‘these ladyboys are so stunningly beautiful that they could be mistaken for real girls.’ Once again, he didn’t provide much evidence. It reminded me of an old joke we used to tell at school: ‘How do elephants hide in the savannah?’ ‘!!??’ ‘They wear glasses.’ ‘…??…’ ‘Have you ever seen elephants wearing glasses?’ ‘No, never.’ ‘Well, that proves they were well hidden!’ In my own experience, I sometimes saw a ladyboy or two at Pasteur street Bar, but I recall it was strictly forbidden to invite them out of the bar. In Lust bar, where is Lusti bar now located only ladyboys worked there. I had already contacted most of them before meeting them. All I could do consisted in purchasing a couple of ladies drinks (at fairly expensive prices) then nothing else could happen. I even remember Tu telling she feared troubles with th epolice if she left tje bar during hours. A couple of days later, she joined her mates (ladyboys whom I also knew) in Phạm Ngũ Lão. She could leave her work but feared suits for prostitution. In the same week, I had been almost aggressed by a girl at Martini bar after I had tried to shoot a photo of the ladyboy working there. The ladyboytold me she risked big troubles if she met me out of the bar. Once again, Lazy Nomad didn’t prove anything. He relied on flashy descriptions to make claims he couldn’t substantiate. There may be opportunities now for big spenders looking to have fun with ladyboys (I recall a TR by The-Sith), but at what cost? I fear that Lazy Nomad is fueling urban legends rather than sharing real stories—something that benefits no one. More information and pics in my trip reports Senorita Bar in 2019 More comments on ladyboys in bars in 2019 Night bars before and after Covid (See Night bars in District 1) Ladyboys in District 1 in 2022 Back to the sinh city in 2022
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I hope you'll share a trip report here at LBR after your journey. It would be great to get a fresh perspective—Rom’s reports are always well-written, but t’s also valuable to hear from someone exploring the Philippines with a different approach and I hope you'll shed light on what less advanced mongerscan actually expect. Back to Saigon, let's get down to Bùi Viện street once again that is the only place about which the video provide a little bit of reliable information. I had already seen photos shared by ladyboys on social networks, showing them out partying in Bùi Viện Street bars. There was nothing new for me. All I know is that they enjoy going there to take pictures together and meet up with each other. However, this doesn’t imply they are available to hook up. Only a fistfull of ladyboys are here to ‘'pull set'’ with customers. They sometimes try to hook up at the intersection of Bùi Viện Street and Đề Thám street (SW side of the intersection, hookers NE are GGs). To me, Bùi Viện Street is no better than Khao San Road in Bangkok. It's filled with tourists drinking and partying, but only a few come for the ladyboys. I sometimes saw a ladyboy sitting in a bar with a male that seemed to be her client but the guy was a Vietnamese guy and they stayed together doing nothing so that I wondered what they could be doing together. I met a couple of ladyboys in spots around Bùi Viện Street (see my 2022 TR Vietnamese ladyboys behind the walls ), but I had reached out to them beforehand. That being said, I had already known Daisy for a few years. It's easy to dazzle people with illusions when you know how to handle a camera and editing software, but it's unfortunate to overlook the substance and miss the reality. I’ve been approached by a ladyboy once, but not the one I felt like dating. Looking back, the only real contacts I had were with ladyboys I had previously reached out to via messaging apps like WeChat—or the one I’ve always kept secret. I also posted about my experience with a massage lady (2016 Discovery of Vietnam), where I explained how, despite a good-quality massage, nothing noteworthy occurred. In conclusion, while Bùi Viện Street is a must-see in Ho Chi Minh City, you’ll be wasting your time if you expect to "discover the strange feeling" with a ladyboy over there.
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Here's the latest video I found about ladyboys in Saigon. It’s well shot, featuring a series of short sequences in which I recognized many familiar places. My main question was whether these scenes were filmed before Covid or after my last visit two years ago. Although I don’t remember all the names, I did recognize some ladyboys who looked noticeably older—particularly Phi Phi, who now wears glasses. That convinced me the video was filmed in 2024. It was posted seven months ago (June 2024), and it doesn’t seem to be a repost. However, after a rather explosive introduction, the video quickly becomes disappointing. I couldn’t find the link to the Google Map created by Lazy Nomad, which supposedly pinpointed all the locations mentioned. Incidentally, most of these spots—except for the nightclubs—were already covered in my 2020 TR. After the initial wow factor from the stunning visuals and AI-generated scripted speech, the video quickly went downhill. First, I was unpleasantly surprised to see that the structure of the video mirrored the framework of my own TR (TR for a virtual trip) post dealing with Saigon district 1. This is the second time I’ve seen that post resurface online, misinterpreted. That being said, I’m convinced that Lazy Nomad never actually met a Vietnamese ladyboy in a room. At best, he may have exchanged a few words in the noisy atmosphere of Bui Vien Street—nothing more. I’ll now go over the main topics covered by LN, just as I did more than three years ago: Bui Vien Street Pasteur Street (with a short comment on nightclubs) Little Japan I will also add comments on Twitter If you're reading this out of curiosity, just keep my takeaway in mind: nothing new under the sun of Saigon. But if you're a real explorer (like SD), I’ll share a few additional comments in my next post. And don’t be fooled by fakes. Pics from my 2019 TR "like a Vienamese monger"
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Before moving on to my next post about Saigon, I want to share a bit more about how I dig for information online. Before traveling to Vietnam, I used Google to search for keywords like 'ladyboy' and 'Vietnam', often adding the name of a city or province. Ahead of my first trip, I found only two pieces of information. One was a blog by a traveler who shared a story about how ladyboys had invited her and her boyfriend to hop on their motorbikes and ride with them back to town. I took this to mean that ladyboys could be found along the Beach avenue in that city. The second source was from a tourist website, which mentioned that ladyboys often gathered at night near a large beach bar (which, by the way, contradicts the claim made by Eward Sweeny that there’s no nightlife in the city). This is how I first learned about the existence of ladyboys in the area. A couple of years later, I found some Vietnamese keywords that helped me uncover more details through ads and press releases, expanding my knowledge. Before my most recent trip, I had a feeling that there might be ladyboys in a city called Quy Nhơn. I searched high and low for information but came up empty—nothing, nada, không có gì. Then, looking back at my old search methods from six years earlier, I realized that travelers’ blogs and discussion groups had completely disappeared from the web. All I found about Quy Nhơn were reports of police crackdown in several areas of the city and road prostitution on a highway just a few kilometres away. If I had felt more confident, I might have gone to that city. However, my experience during my last trip to Vietnam led me to believe that ladyboys in Quy Nhơn or Bình Định province probably no longer existed after Covid.
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Mộc Nhi
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I thought about gathering these various posts into one discussion and hesitated for a long time before doing so. After consulting SoopDawg, who had no objections, I’ve compiled his comments into a new thread to continue exploring the topic of ladyboys in Vietnam. I had read SD's TR at PY a few years ago and realized I had been fairly lucky to find ladyboys in VN. As a matter of fact, I shagged more Vietnamese ladyboys than Thai ladyboys in my life. Before we get into the details, just a reminder : the first 4 posts come from my 2019 TR (like a Vietnamese monger). The discussion deals with ladyboys in Nha Trang. Back in my 2019 trip report, I talked about a little story from the previous year (2018) that happened in the same spot. The next three posts (January 3rd–January 4th) focus on my 2020 TR for a virtual trip. In these posts, I highlighted that the virtual TR was based on my experiences from previous trips and the research I conducted online during the COVID lockdown. The last four posts above focus on my 2022 TR Vietnamese ladyboys behind the wall. I still feel frustrated by the post-COVID changes I discovered, especially the skyrocketing prices that have made Vietnam a less appealing destination for roaming. If I were to summarize my various Vietnam TRs over the years, I first discovered there existed pretty and hot Vietnamese ladyboys as I was in Kuala Lumpur (2014). I went for my first adventures in Vietnam in 2016 with just a couple of field reports found in travelers' blog (who were not into ladyboys at all) and decided to explore deeper in Vietnam in 2018 after I had tested new methods to contact ladyboys in during my 2017 trip in Thailand. Then, I had a feeling that a local market for ladyboys existed, one where I could find better prices and potentially higher-quality companions by exploring it. This seemed to work pretty well in 2019 and continued to develop during the COVID-19 period. However, I hadn't noticed the changes coming in 2021. By then, only the wealthiest clients could afford the allure of ladyboys at prices akin to an allegedly international market. Not all ladyboys could meet the standards of this market, and those who couldn't, left it.
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Mộc Nhi
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I don't have a type. If we vibe, we vibe. (Mộc Nhi) Old memories in this dirty street of Saigon district 1 for me. -
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