Luung

I actually loved Laos!

Had a great time there, stayed for 2 weeks all told.... the north was freaking amazing!!

I wanna go back really badly....and I will :)

for the life of me I can't remember the name of the bar, but there is a pool hall on the main road which runs along the Mekong and from where you can clearly see Nong Khai across the border in Thailand.

It's on the 4th floor and has great views.....I was up there and there must've been 10 ladyboys in the joint, and about 20 ladies.....it's a buyers market for sure. I saw my old friend Dao in there and she looked great, and is now a postie; she used to work in Pattaya years ago as a pre-op.

They also walk the streets around the river and downtown....some who approached me were no more than 16 or so, be careful.... but they are around for sure.

*Remember, westerners can not bring a Laotian back to your room; the only way to have sex with these girls and LB's is if they know a place to screw, and that seems kind of dodgy.

I think the name of the bar you're on about is 'Bor Pen Yang'?

Did you go up to the North Eastern boarder with Vietnam?.. I'm desperate to go up there myself on a 'Trials bike', aparently they've started to hear Gibbons calls in the mornings for about the first time in over 30 years!! By all counts as a consiquence of 'Agent Orange' they're now finding more new species there than in the Amazon basin even?? I don't know how you can varify this stuff, but that's what I've read & heard.

Getting back to my previous post, the girls/LB's will often take you back to their homes so as to get around the local laws, it's pretty safe & I haven't had any problem... Yet!?.. I'm probably tempting providence now I've opened my mouth up & said that.

I love beer dark Lao... It's the best thing that's happened in this region since viagra hit town!!!!!

Yeah, thanks Jai Dee... that was a reality check all right... You've just scared the crap out of me!!!

I have a friend back in the UK who used to work on the 'Aids' wing at St Steven's hospital in Fulham & he reckons the chance of catching any STD's from oral sex is incredibly slim, you've got to really go out of your way some!

Also with regard to getting the Listerine out Bumble Bee, I had a dentist in Koh Sammui some years back who told me that to get rid of all the germs in your mouth you'll have to keep gargling for roughly two minutes... And that said you'll probably be better of with a milder mouth wash so that you can keep swilling it around for a longer period of time!

Anyway, I'm the same as most of you guys, with a face full of booze in me I'll break ALL of my own rules & a few more as well... Maybe it's why I like LB's so much, the sheer, intense, filth of it all??

Time for a 'grow up' pill.

The few times I have come across LBs with hair problems they have been caused by either a visit to the police station/monkey house for an extreme trim, or else the tangled mess of extensions became too much and they had to cut them out in chunks. Have not experienced LBs pulling their hair out personally, just the usual threats to slit their wrists.

Nice answer!!!

Can't recall FMs posting about this before. I haven't noticed this phenomenon but then I'm not looking at too many ladyboys up close and personal.

Why not?

Is what you're saying is that this can be caused by either hair treatment/extensions or by ripping out one's own hair?

No, I'm saying that I'm being lead to belive that much of the time these LB's have had their hair cut off after a shot spell in prison, in spite of the fact that some will pull their own hairt out.

It makes sense that extensions puts an unatural amount of weight on the scalp.

Yes, good comment! The extensions probably makes quiet a mess of the scalp at any rate

Obviously I haven't explained myself well enough, sorry, I'll try again.

At first this phenomenon was freaking me out because I was thinking about all kinds of HIV angles & all that kind of nasty stuff. When I said diconserting I meant it.

I'm talking about parts of the head where the extensions look like they're clinging on to literally nothing & when you take a cheaky little closer look you can't even see a hairline around the ears or the beginings of a sideburn... Nothing!

I suppose my questions are... How many of you want to believe that more often than not it's either sickness or the ladyboys doing it to themselves?

Or How many of you figure the prison idea is more often than not either feasible or maybe even probable?

I do take your very valid point Larry that the extensions themselves can/could make the scalp look much worse once you've got up close & personal & had a really good look.

This could purely be a consiquence of vanity, it's another explaination added to the mix.

Lung, are you saying just by leaving the site, wihout even powering down your computer, that you get logged out?

Unfortunately, yes.

Right, recently I've noticed loads of young LB's with nasty, large alopecia type bald spots, it’s either that or I’ve gone to run my fingers though the ‘current’ companions hair & got myself all tangled up in a mess of hair extensions!.. It’s been quite disconcerting.

Now we all know about male pattern baldness & also the fact that so many kathoeys often hack off their hair when they split up with a loved one, but I tell yah right now man, it ain’t either of these two things.

Now I say recently, but the first one was about 2 yrs ago, a nasty leggy thing who picked me up from a drunken slumber on a bench on the moat in CMX & she then proceeded to steal my phone after a sweaty night in a CMX guest house.

Even the lill’ cutie in my local Lao Khow bar hides a mass of bald shit n’ extensions under a cowboy hat (Damm I used to want to jam that lil’ bitch so much!!

Friday before last in Patts I stuffed a lill’ day time LB massage girl in Soi Buckhow... And shock horror... Bald as a frakin’ coot!!!.. Extensions up to the eyeballs.

The list goes on.... And on... And on...

Anyway, same Friday as the massage girl I actually managed to blagg just about the sexiest LB that I’ve ever encountered much later that evening (And I’d just about given up on Patts as too)!

At any rate, early in the morning she decided to use the old, “I’ve gotta pay my rent, landlord want boxing me” routine & I said, “NAH”!!!.. With that she started pulling & tugging at her beautiful waist length hair shouting, “Me not kamoi (thief), look I have my own hair”... Well this stopped me in my tracks & the penny dropped... Young LB’s get their heads shaved when they get dragged to the ‘Monkey House’ (Prison). My lovely new kathoey friend (Who I will be seeing again, in spite of her antics) sat me down & told me half in Thai & half in English the whole deal about the LB’s with the extensions & it was illuminating! In fact I’d now say that a lot of the chicks that you think have just split up with their rich Falang provider or the lill’ Thai soldier boy have actually just come out of knick!

It’s obviously done for the humiliation & I suppose to make them less attractive to the other inmates?.. And maybe just prison convention??.. Dunno; ain’t done any ‘bird’ here yet???

Now I’m not silly enough to tar everyone with the same brush & I wouldn’t be that nasty anyway. Obviously there are enough genuine alopecia sufferers out there & more than enough hack themselves to bits when the insecurities of a lonely life as a transsexual hit home... But I’ve seen so much of this lately & I do know the BIB’s been clamping down on our lill’ chums.

Any thoughts lads?.. I’d love to get a little bit more educated here & I’d love to hear other BM’s/Fm’s (BTW, what do we call ourselves here)? opinions, experiences etc... I’m pretty sure it ain’t HIV or stress either.

Maybe if enough folk post we can get some sort of consensus?

Inclined to agree, PDogg. Haven't stayed at either, but most BMS' comments are tipped in Raming's favor. Raming and Pornping. Love them names.

Pornping is slightly farther eastward from the main action at Loi Kroh, but still walkable. It does have a massage shop right across that some consider to be the best in CM. I'm talking real massages here. There's also a popular club called Hotshot at the hotel. Predominantly local and ladyboys are often found dancing away, open to pickup by horny mongers.

I actually used to be a tenant of 'Ms' Pornping's, she also owns a fancy condo block amongst other many, many other things.

She's a dear little old thing who's completely unassuming & rides around on a rusty old cycle trying to do the best she can to look impoverished.

At one stage I was trying to work my ticket with her as some type of aging Falang boy toy, but by the time the staff had let on that there'd been a mile of nocturnal, screaming drunk LB action up in my room then that idea sorta got shot to shit!..

Just for clarity, the ice cube came from a gg's pussy. I'm sure if it cane from her backdoor, the Pattaya Board of Health would shutter the place in a New York minute?

Tastes great? Less filling? Strangely for a few days afterward I could hardly talk, laryngytis of sorts. I don't think it was the flying cube though. Rather lots of talking above the loud music.

Com'on PDogg... Fess up, tell the truth... We've all been in trouble for a day or two after being in one of these sort of bars

[up] Not sure if I know you, Lung, but I like you already!

:D

God bles you... I like you too big boy!!

Love the name, by the way... I just wish I'd have thought of it myself!.. I get called it enough.

You might have known me from another life... who knows??.. I've had a few.

I'm from England, I like warm dark beer that you can stand a dildo up in & which also gets you obnoxiously drunk... And I'm proud of it!

This is probably just about the only one respect in which I don't consider myself to be a 'world' citizen.

Bah!!.. Ice in beer, whatever next, you'll be drinking skimmed milk in bars soon, maybe it’s OK for colonials, but for most of us Brits, nah!!

Seriously, I've been known to bomb the odd cube in a chang, just to slow me down a bit, but I do often feel incredible guilt afterwards... Just like when I first started stuffin' ice cubes up LB's?!

I get locked out every time that I leave the site... And I always check the box to stay logged in.

Sorry I've got to confirm that it's not working

I'm incredibly lucky in that I live just down the road from a meditation retreat at the bottom of Doi Suthep, so for me its in the most part serenity, nature, & village folk... But also the opportunity to jump ship from time to time & pop out for some dark, debauched, filthy meaningful, raging sex with developing world peoples on the cheap... :devil:

That & the food of course... Oh & the politness too... Oh, and the Thai smile... And the Opium Dens... And the cerimonies & pagents... And being able to buy my way out of trouble whenever I'm arrested, of course.

I like Soi dogs too

And baby fluffy bunny rabbits

And big fat cuddly elephants... I actually get involved with both the local Dog sanctuary & the Elephant Foundation, that's what really makes living here worthwile for me... the rabbits I just kill & eat!

Skeeter Davis "The End of the World" was one of her most memorable hits but I am not sure if it was her biggest.

I'm pretty sure "End of the world" was her greatest hit, I got the Marcie Blaine one too & if I'm correct (?) Sue Thompson's would be sad movies?.. Dunno, I'm a Limmie.

Has I just said I'm from the other side of the pond so I'll 'toss' one one of ours out there, same mame sake: Linda Thompson... No Google, Youtube, Encyclopidia Britanica or Karl's computer allowed...

I've tried it once, but I did not inhale... Sir

Actually, I'm a watcher, I just try to make sure I take my glasses off first, those sort of stains will stay on a lense forever.

Any further involvement shows the class of the partner, it don't happen often, but if it does???

Fortunately for me I live in Chiang Mai & the ‘Ramming Lodge’ gets my vote over the ‘Porn Ping’ any day of the week... And don't forget, there's a nightclub underneath the Porn Ping (Noisy)!!!

Always ask the staff if their Hotel/Guest House is LB guest friendly, It’s no problem asking. Taking a swipe I'd say 60/70% LB friendly to 30/40% LB unfriendly.

Big Hotels & small Guest Houses are usually no problem, it's the mid range family run establishments that worry about who's seen coming in or out in the morning.

Also, this has to be said, it very much depends on the type of kathoey friend that you may have as an escort... I.E. Chiang Mai's incredibly LB friendly as a city, but they like to see politely dressed & spoken individuals who have some type of demeanour... THEY DON'T LIKE YABBA HEADS WITH TEETH MISSING OR SKIRTS THAT LOOK LIKE BELTS & SHOW OF THE TESTISES...

Remember that & you won’t go far wrong!

Thanks man!

This is another place I wanna check out this year, mostly for some trial-riding and seeing the countryside but if I can come across a cute LB or 3 I wouldn't turn that away!

One thing I like about Laotians; they speak better english than the Thai's, I think they paid better attention in school growing up.

That's a communist education for you... Up the Peoples Federal Republic!!!

I know this is backtracking, but I'd use 'Corel photo paint' personally, it's a full on paint package rather than a complicated design tool like Photoshop.

'Microsoft paint's' good for real simple school type stuff, but Corel's very intuitive & masking & layering (which is what you want) is really simple.

I personally like Mr Bumble Bee's light blue/turquoise logo, maybe just mask off the chick & lettering to keep those elements in black or maybe a really intense Prussian blue? If you can send me your original artwork as a PSD file I'll do it for you

She cums tsunami! :angel: Very cool work!

Welcome abaord Lung!

Cheers... And thanks for the upgrade, I just wish I had the brains to use it, ho hum?

Just fancied doing one of these....

Hi Guys, is there any kind of an LB scene in Vientiene in Laos?

any bars they hang out, is there a red light district there; any hotel recommendations??

thanks

Vienchiang’s turning into a real little Rivera & it’s absolutely peppered with little ladymen!!!.. The scene has always & will always move around, but where ever the late(ish) scene is they will be also.

In the small nightclub just around the corner from the Thai consulate, there was some absolutely gorgeous, long leggy, corking, spunk dancers slinking around a couple of months back! I'll try to dig out the name of the place or at least give you the street!

You'll find them all along the river front in the outdoor restaurants & opposite coffee bars, also there’s a mile of teeny ones infesting the place absolutely everywhere, if that’s your scene of course.

A lot of people will direct you to the fountain area of the city, but that ain't where it's at!.. The LB freelance scene is back toward the consulate area from there... and there's no need to look too hard, they'll find you.

IMHO, the standard is well down on Thailand (there was some mangy, mutant stuff out there man), but you will find the odd diamond in the ruff too & the prices will be about the same as ‘The Land of Lies’ if not slightly cheaper, BTW you'll find that virtually all of these girls are freelance, but that scene is a lot safer than in Thailand...Tthey usually take you to their homes, that way you’re a guest & they can get around the draconian prostitution laws.

Have fun!!

Any room for a small one??... I've just got in, it's nice to be here!.. The only site that will have me??!!

Anyway, great to see that the site's up & running & let's hope that I can make some sort of worthwile contribution?

All the best of luck, I hope everyone goes out of their way to make this a really cool site.