Luung

4 hours ago, Pdoggg said:

Thai bouncers vs Brit tourists on Khao San Road.

 

Fukin' cowardly wankers!... Ex boxer, bully boy bouncers', beating the shit out of skinny, pissed up tourists, yet again!... 

The story goes that they, at first, weren't admitted into the hotel, so they sneaked back in & were throwing beer around the toilets... Hmm?

Guess you can make your own minds up.

I'm just waiting for the 'usual suspects' Thailand apologists to pipe up & say the British lads had it coming for not showing the due respect to our honorable, non confrontational, welcoming hosts??

8 hours ago, Jimslim said:

Yes luckily I was exposed to this phenomenon in my early days of visiting Thailand when I went to an after hours party with the staff from Stringfellows Go Go in some karaoke club , everyone of them seemed to have a little Thai boyfriend badly dressed with skinny jeans , pointy shoes and a half grown mustache usually a lot smaller and younger and in most cases brute ugly .

Don't like Thai men ? Come off it they all do , the ladyboys were buying all the drinks and fawning over these guys . 

It was an eyeopener for sure but a valuable lesson .

Back then this was pretty much the ultimate taboo on ladyboy forums , those that did mention it were shot down in flames by overweight western men 2/3 times their age who seemed to truly believe that they really did prefer overweight western men 2/3 times their age . 

Spot on, Jim!

And it's one of the things that really gets me too, this incredible mixture of confidence, overly high self esteem & arrogance that a lot of these aging BM uglies, in their Burma campaign shorts, Dr. Scholl sandals & dodgy shirts, exude!?!... It's truly astounding & disconcerting how these bent out of shape fatties believe their own press & think that the LB world must drop at their feet!

Jezzzus... Christ knows what their pampered backgrounds were like; their mommies must have told these fukin' monts, every single hour, on the hour, that they were so truly loveable & worthwhile & that they deserve everything that their chubby little hearts desire.

It still staggers me, as I'm the type who feels that I'm obligated to be a realist & put my best self forward & to be really grateful of my chance to entertain something truly exotic with someone half my age... Hoe or not!

5 hours ago, bumblebee said:

Sounds like things are turning full circle if you substitute 'Thai boy' for 'ladyboy' and 'them' for 'us'.

I recall this was touched on in another thread a long while back where someone observed that with Thai society becoming more open, and more and more Thai men not afraid to be seen dating ladyboys, that the pool to feed from for the visiting westerner will become smaller/more expensive

Correctomundo, dear bumblebee!

That might have actually been me who said that in another other thread?.. I've been watching this unfolding for a handful of years now.

And probably right this moment, we will even find on the other forum that we're all being gently squeezed by many of the the cognoscenti into thinking that 3K plus isn't an unreasonable amount to be asked for an LT in this day & age... WTF ever happened to, "I'm ladyboy, me not real girl, me half price, 500 baht long time"?????

OK, these blokes are arseholes, IMO, & probably ugly, misshapen, smelly fatties with wanky attitudes, but they have realised one thing... As short term visitors' straight off the banana boat, they have worked out that this is the golden figure to get good service, plus good attitude. In other words, they would be getting less for giving less.... So, whilst you or I could counter with, "I can easily get that & a full GFE for 1K", they can not!

At the end of the day, LB's are us... Vein, short sighted, narcissistic, & only really interested in young flesh, cute little light weight, trendy, pretty little things, who just keep smiling  & won't challenge us!

Recognise yourself there, anyone?.... 555

Yes, in all sincerity, this is the beginning of the end of the world as we know it

On 4/30/2015 at 3:52 AM, Jimslim said:

I heard some stories recently about ladyboys spending silly money on Thai boys in Karaoke Bars .

 

Some serious overpaying going on there    

Yeah, it's becoming a fad, even up here in CNX... They're all starting to parade their boytoys around

As a lot of today's pretty boys are losing their inhibitions with the third sex & the Thai in the street has a lot more money in his pocket, the LB's are now falling over themselves to get at them & they're working night & day to do it!... Even my regular LB of the past couple of years has just blown me out for a swaggering midget gangsta boy with a six pack & a pretty smile.

Two weeks ago, for the first ever time, she actually asked me to lend her some money (only 1K) & she admitted that it was to give to this little fucker!.. She really doesn't earn a lot at all & god knows how much she's giving this little snot, but it's a lot!.. And she's willing to go without my help to stay hanging around with him.

Which brings us to another subject... This is what they want, what they really,really, want... A trendy & cute little Thai boy, who's preferably a lot younger than them, & they can dress him, mess around with his hair, take selfies together & they can be seen out together in front of their peers listening to deafening bouncy castle, kiddy pop... And that is as much as they want, they don't think of tomorrow, it's that childish & pitiful.

I suppose that I've become somewhat like a long term prison inmate as the years have gone by... I still love women & almost everything about them, the smells, the flesh, the femininity, i just love it all, the skinny ones', the fat ones', the pretty ones' & even a lot of the not so pretty ones'.... But, in this place LOS/ SE Asia generally, I've just grown to have a preference for LB's, as they're leggier, far more vivacious, far better company & much of the time capable of an almost proper conversation. Plus, I just don't trust the scheming females around here & I find 90% of the squawking, uneducated midget bar girls, utterly repulsive.

Asian chicks can be great eye candy, & I still get my head turned a handful of times a day... But unfortunately it ends there!

So, it's gone from fetish/kink, to now lifestyle

Most might disagree, but I don't think it helps that we can't see the face of the young lady in the top picture.

The bottom pic is certainly a far stronger image... But, if the lass in top pic as a pretty face, then it might have swung it.. (Excuse the pun).

15 hours ago, Pdoggg said:

G Pub in Golden Sorya Mall (GSM) is an after hours bar with no barfines.   Bargirls go there after their bar closes in the hope of snagging a customer.   Opens at 2AM and goes to the wee hours.    Usually a few ladyboys hanging out there.

Brilliant! That's just what I wanted to hear, PDoggg.... Wasn't expecting this upcoming trip to become a nocturn.... But if needs must 

14 hours ago, xyzzy said:

My expat friend always suggests Pharmacie De La Gare.  Pharmacie De La Gare and U-Care are both air conditioned at least duing the day. So their drugs aren't constantly stored at temperatures that might be higher than the recommended maximum temperature for a given drug. rxpharm might comment on how important that is or isn't.

There is a big pharmacy that I sometimes use on the corner of 108 and 13 (Pharmacie Angkor Chey) near the north riverfront. On Street 136 between Street 49 and 51 (I think) there are a bunch of small pharmacies. It used to be called Pharmacy Row or something like that. If you can't find what you looking for at the places listed above that is a possibility. There are small pharmacies here and there around the riverfront area. Check the date code on the product before you pay.

The ATM limit is at least $500, if your debit card can handle that much, at least at Canadia Bank. I usually pull $480 (or $490 if allowed). It is easier to use US$100 bills in PP than it used to be but sometimes it can still be a problem paying with a bill that big. So If I pull $480 I at least get some bills smaller than $US100. I think there is still an ATM or two inside the customs area at the airport. I don't know how much fee your card might charge beyond the $5 ATM fee but if it isn't much I would probably be more inclined to use my card (if you can pull ~$500 at once) than try and find someplace to exchange baht (and take the probable loss on exchange rate). FWIW 

16 hours ago, Sylvester said:

Luung, I would suggest you only buy drugs at U-Care (a chain with stores all over the city and one on the Riverside, or Pharmacie De La Gare (see below screenshot). Pharmacie De La Gare is a reputable and popular pharmacy with expats, and it's well stocked. You will pay a bit more at these pharmacies than the other smaller pharmacies all over the place but you are sure to get quality pharmaceuticals. Cambodia had/has a big problem with counterfeit drugs being sold all over the place. There is very little, if any, pharmacy regulation / enforcement in Cambodia so you have to rely on a pharmacy's desire to maintain a good reputation to ensure the quality of medicine.

I bought and used benzodiazepines, antibiotics, and other medicines at these pharmacies and was very satisfied with the quality.

There are very likely other pharmacies in PP where you can find authentic and less expensive drugs, but I was satisfied with these two. 

 

Excellent replies, lads.... Really informative, good stuff, thanks a million to the pair of you!

11 hours ago, Pdoggg said:

Most of where you'll want to go will be within walking distance. Tuk Tuks are cheap if you are willing to negotiate. It would seem simpler to not have a bike.

You obviously haven't heard about my reputation for getting in fights & slanging matches with cab & tuk tuk drivers, have you PDogg 55555

11 hours ago, SiamSam said:

Unc,

My advice to you is not to rent a motorbike until you get a really good sense of the lay of the land. Much like you did when you first visited Thailand I suspect. Just go easy like eating chilli for the first time. Little by little. Buy your meds before coming and forget the motorbike for your first visit. I want to read about your wonderful trip to Cambodia not the contrary. Play safe and enjoy.  

 

I love you, Sam... You make almost as much sense as my mum used to!... You're right, I'll stay on foot for this trip & make the time to take a quick visit to my local hospital for some Xanax before I go...

However, I will be having a huge load up at xyzzy & sylvester's recommends, once there... But like you say, don't leave anything to chance on a first trip.

17 hours ago, rxpharm said:

I would caution against buying drugs from street vendors as the odds of getting a counterfeit product or adulterated (not in a good way - contaminated with unwanted products), is much more likely.

While I haven't attempted to buy medication i Cambodia a few forums I've checked indicate that most pharmacies in Cambodia will sell benzodiazepines like Valium, Ativan, Xanax, without prescription.

Thanks for that RX!

I'd caution against street vendors too... I just like like saying arsehole things in my posts

20 hours ago, Pdoggg said:

 there are no little chaps running around the streets.  

 

Not even with frocks on?  

Ok, so how do you guys draw money out? I'm quite sure that there will not be many of us who would invite a $5/£3 kick up the spuds, every time that we want to draw money out of an ATM? And I'm also pretty sure that the designated, highest amounts, that we could draw out of these machines at any one go will be pretty low.. Do you find sister banks to your own & go in & change funds over the counter, hopefully free of charges? How do people do it??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Talking of money, I went to SCB yesterday to change either some Baht or Sterling for $500 Yankee dollars (prices for both currencies were practically the same, so obviously Brexit didn't do us Brits that much harm), & they declined me! Apparently, they have to wait for someone to deposit some American money!?!.. So, I'm going to the airport today, so as to draw the money form an ATM & then use a money exchange at extortionate rates.

Finally.... I forgot the most important question of all... Can I get any Xanax or Valium from either the pharmacies or some little chap running around the streets selling the stuff?

2 hours ago, xyzzy said:

  ATMs in Cambodia give $US. The ATM fee will likely be ~$5 for a withdrawal. 

Cheers, thanks... So best make sure that they're large withdrawls

Good to know about the air con taxis for the odd torrential downpour, & that's a very interesting question regarding exchanging baht for dollars whilst in PP, xyzzy... Shame that there hasn't been any answers

So, everyone.. How should i access my funds when my $500 runs out?... What are the ATM's like?.. Will I just draw out the local currency (riel) from either an existing Thai Baht or Sterling account through an ATM machine?... Will the charges be excessive? It costs me roughly £3 to get Sterling from England out from an ATM in Thailand... Or will I have to go into a local bank with passports & stuff?.. I just dunno?? things were incredibly antiquated last time I was in Cambodia.

Anyway, PDoggg, has done a sterling job helping me to access a $13 room in the Sundance Riverside, Guest Hse.. I've just booked it on Agoda, $16 per night with the taxes etc... Brilliant value & no I.D. checks!

The place looks like a bit of a 'good ole' boys' hang out from the photos, so i doubt that i'll be in the bar much & the room is a cell without views, (so that should also hopefully mean that it's quiet)? Plus, it looks clean & there's a flat screen, wi fi, room safe, unlimited coffee & a breakfast... So, it should suffice, for at least the first two nights?

Unfortunately, I arrive, late in the afternoon on Wednesday, 27th, so that probably means that I won't get my visa back until after the weekend, which is a bummer?.. But hey, maybe that's more incentive to go find a roommate 

In view of the fact that i'll be doing at least 6 nights, owing to the weekend, I've decided to bite the bullet & go to CNX airport to politely pay for the extra baggage. and it also looks like I may well have to move on after the second night & find somewhere with views, & a bit more tranquility & ambiance, plus, no I.D. checks & hopefully a useable pool (if that's not too much to ask)

... Talking of which, does anyone know of any public swimming pools?... I'm slightly amphibious & a regular miler, so access to a good facility would be superb!

13 hours ago, BigTel said:

I haven't done it so far and don't see any good reason to break a good habit. 

I'm with you, Big Tel!

I don't see any reason to ingratiate myself... And apart from that, in spite of my gratitude, I've always looked over to the side of the bar where the bell ringer is, waved & smiled & then thought to myself... Wanker!

Great post Sustra2

Damm... At these sort of prices I might have to extend my trip & discover the delights of Shinookie... Look's like I'd be silly not to

11 hours ago, Pdoggg said:

At the airport:

I have a different visa than you. I believe a tourist visa is 30 USD so come with some dollars.  You'll also need a passport sized photo.

~

Buy yourself a Sim Card and put 2 bucks of load on it.  I have CellCard; not really sure which brand is best. You need to show your passport and it's much easier to sort this out at the airport than in town. You pay for the Sim and load in dollars.

~

At the airport it's a very easy 2 minute walk outside the airport gate where you can find tuks tuks for 5 USD.  Before you even get outside the gate they'll be trying to get you to choose them.  So pick a guy you like and quicky agree on 5 bucks. If for some reason that's not happening quickly them just move on. There will be plenty of tuks tuks to choose from.

Although you might be able to beat them up and pay 4 bucks, I recommend paying 5 and having a happy driver for your Phnom Penh experience.

You can either say 5 dollars and don't budge.  Or you can say 4 bucks and settle on 5.

the drivers will only accept dollars or riel and strongly suggest you have exact change.

If there's a torrential downpour you may not want the 2 minute walk so there's an option to pay extra inside the airport. 

But when you get to the area in the airport where you would arrange for the airport tuk tuk just walk to the left on the road and you will be quickly outside the airport. 

I personally enjoy the tuk tuk trip into the city.  Loved it the first time and every time since.  Gives you a flavor of the city. My favorite trip from the airport to the city of every city in the world.

Again, thanks for the superb advice, PDoggg, I actually intended to bring about $500 & then just chew up some baht at a bad exchange rate if I run out of funds.

Things like tuk tuk rides from airports into new cities are always interesting & quite exciting for me too & I learnt long ago that in spite of my aversion & unpredictable behaviour towards cabbies, for that first ride from the airport to where I'm going, I've just got to suck it up, smile, bite the bullet & pay the money... I can start calling them all shitdogs & thieves once I'm in PP 5555

11 hours ago, SiamSam said:

Unc,

Awhile back I did exactly what Mr. Doggg advises and it worked well. Easy. 

I am kinda of envious of you going to PP. Overall it is an interesting experience. Enjoy yourself. 

Thanks Sam... interesting's what I'm after

Whooah, thanks for all your responses everyone, this is all really helpful stuff... Looks like all's not lost & I might be able to get through this with a smile on my face. 

And I got me a wingman too! I'll really look forward to catching up Pdoggg, I miss your company, mate, this is be well overdue... And of course, fun!

xyzzy...  Thanks for your good advice too, but please, don't ask me about what rulings are what? My my irregular brain just doesn't work that way, I'll just get confused, flustered & finally disengage, before turning into a jelly baby & start rocking backward & forward in a crazed looking stupor, whilst dribbling bile out of the side of my mouth...

All I can tell you is that when this 'exact' same situation arose two years back, I was first given a 60 day extension of my non 'o' visa at CNX immigration & then when it expired I went to Mea Sai, did a walk over & got granted another 60 days on arrival... BAMM!

I could have fallen over, as I really didn't expect this type of luck at either immigration or the border.

BTW, last time I used Air Asia, (admittedly a while ago), they didn't charge on baggage up to 13KG... I even remember throwing some old shoes around CNX airport to get the weight down.

Sustra2, That sounds like an interesting day trip, especially if they've got some type of museum there! it will be very interesting to see what vestiges of their original Kamere culture can be found there.

Again, thanks everyone... I'll keep in touch PDoggg

1 hour ago, sustra2 said:

never been there...but have been told Oudong is a nice place for a daytrip visit near PP...always wanted to go

Thanks sustra2, What is it, it looks like a temple complex?

34 minutes ago, Sylvester said:

The Thai embassy is not far from the river/bar areas but you really should not get your 60 day tourist visa at the embassy yourself. There are numerous trustworthy visa services along the riverfront and elsewhere who can get your visa for you in about 3 days, depending upon which day of the week you drop it off. Better to drop it off on a Monday or Tuesday if you can. The cost is about $45- $50 USD all in. You have to leave your passport with them, but they give you a receipt. I've done it about 4 times and never had a problem/delay.

I have no experience renting or riding motos in PP but I would advise against it because of traffic hazards, police shakedowns, etc.

I'm fairly certain you can rent push bikes but not sure where. Google it or check with some of the hostel websites.

Regarding tuk tuks, when I was there last year the prices ranged from $1 to $3 within the inner city of PP--$1(or 4000 Riel) for a short trip, $2 for medium trip, etc. It's usually an extra dollar with two passengers. It should cost $7 to take a tuk tuk from the airport, but it's a fairly long trip and really sucks because of smog and dust. I'd pay the extra $3 for a air con taxi. Everything is negotiable. Try not to get pissed off; just smile and walk away and 9 times out of 10 they will relent and call you back, especially now during low season.

Good luck finding quiet in PP, especially in the bar area. Sadly, I didn't do much LB hunting during my time in PP so I can't offer much advice on the LB bars. You can try Island Bar on St. 118 (I think it's 118 anyway). Consider GGs while there too. Lots of beauties about. Expensive though. GGs were charging around $50 minimum. LBs $20 to $40. Hard to get $20 though.

I'd consider Siem Reap instead of PP for you visa run. You can still get your Thai tourist visa while there but it will take an extra 3-4 days, so if you have a week to 10 days to spare for your holiday, might be worth it. Flights are cheaper to Siem Reap from BKK too, last time I checked, even with Bangkok Air. And you can fly to Snooky from Siem Reap if you want to go there. Another bonus is it is much safer to ride motos in Siem Reap if you want to explore on your own, and push bikes are available for hire. Some guesthouses have their own.

As far as culture goes, I didn't find much of interest in PP unless you like temples. More culture in Siem Reap. That's where I'll be going my next trip to Cambodia.

Good luck, mate; keep calm and carry on. 

Thanks for the lengthy response, Sylvester, that's much appreciated!

So, I take it that the agents/bookers providing visa services in Siem Reap will be going to PP on my behalf, & that's where the extra waiting time comes in?

Shit, damm, blast, fuck, fuck, fuck, fuckin fuck!!!!... I've already booked the fukin' flight the PP yesterday, I feel so stupid now, as it's with Air Asia & it was on promotion, so there's no chance that they'll change it for just a clerical charge.

Bollox, I've got practically no wish what so ever, to go to Phnom Penh right now; but Siem Reap, you betcha, I'd love to go, especially for the history & the peace & quiet!!!

Hi all,

My retirement visa's running out near the end of the month & due to new visa rulings, my local immigration office are consequently telling me that I've got to do a non overland visa run.... So, I've decided to fly to Phnom Penh & I'll need some tips & advice as well a few questions answered, pleeeeeeeeeeeeeese 

How far is the Thai embassy from the river & bar areas?... I'm after a 60 day visa

Is renting motorbikes safe? i.e. Are they probably going to try to rip me off, are the police going to be all over me? Will there be a good chance that the bike will get knicked?

Are there push bikes for rent?

Are taxis expensive & will I constantly be getting in rows with grinning, slimey, cunning, little arsesoles who'll be constantly trying to take advantage of me??

As much as I want to rediscover Cambodia, this visa run has come as a complete surprise & I'm just not currently in the right frame of mind for a holiday (way, way, way, too much on my plate at the mo, as I'll be closing my life down here & going back to blighty in October). However, that said, I'd be stupid to turn my nose up at a well earned short break... So, bearing all that in mind, how long a stay would be advised? (I'm inclined to get bored with samey stuff & samey places).

Where can I stay in QUIET accommodation with reasonable wifi that is near to the action?... And currently, where is our sort of action?

Is there anyone on the ground right now who'd like to meet up, I'll be there from the 27th July?

Yesterday, I punched some furniture & really hurt my hand, when the Air Asia website informed me that there's now a charge for ANY 'checked' luggage! This just disgusted me to the pit of my stomach & sent me into uncontrollable rage! Especially as I was also informed that the 'carry on' baggage is soon to be going down to 5KG).. I'm still in a heightened state of anger, but considering that I'm the type who'll get bored going out every night, should I just bite the bullet & let them extort me, so that I can stay in & watch my downloaded documentaries on my laptop, when need be?.. I honestly can't answer this for myself right now.

Both Sihanoukville & Siem Reip are said to be 4/5 hrs' bus rides away?.. In most cases is this a true reality? (I'll only go into rage again if it isn't).

How much should I pay for an LT or ST?... Please don't forget that I'm a bit stingy... Will charm & a dapper exterior get me anywhere? (I should have calmed down a bit by then)?

Return flights currently being more expensive items that incoming ones'... Would going to Sihanoukville & then from there onto Patts be a realistic option? Or would it be an ordeal for someone who doesn't want to be away for too long?

Anything else to do in PP outside of whoring drinking?... I don't mind soaking up a bit of the culture, if there is any left there nowdays?

Has I've said a load of times when these type of threads come up, the problem is us! & it's the exact same problem that we've made for ourselves with the up em'selves, top end ladyboys.

It's the weakness of the sycophants that gives the empowerment, the cellar dwellers who go bananas when they get here, literally weiying soi dogs as they walk down the road & wanting to have their photos taken with their arms around local grinning policemen, or being seen putting money in alms bowls, etc.

They declare their love for prozzies (Ok, that's been me too before now ) & they worship the bar owners & the pimps, especially if they've got a high profile on a forum!

Has a lot of you know, I blasted a well known bar owner for very good reason & then got hair flicked by half his stalwart customers, let alone him!!!.. Fukin' bunch... And at least 50% of them would have previously called me a friend 555555555

And I'm betting that when I get down to Patts another bar owner could well be hair flicking me too... And I won't blame him, because he'll probably feel that he has no other option, because it'll be for the greater good, 'the crowd' & that's how cliques & hair flicks work, & we make them too.

Anyway, as far as I'm concerned it's great!.. And I'll go back to what I do best, taking the path less well trod, down dark allys & sois, with less sloppy seconds & I'll be finding the far more interesting stuff out there. 

I'll get drunk where I want & with whom I want, & I won't need plastic environments, squeaky voiced, pop music for twelve year old's, overpriced beer, bar fines & attitudes or just plain won't have to endure gangs of monotonous BM's getting pissed in their awful holiday clothes, talking about getting the shits on vacation or how much the fukin' soi dogs all look the same... They can keep it

The past small handful of trips to Patts have been shit!... But he next one will be great... Because I have freedom to do my thing on my timescale & that's what relaxation is all about.

Be an individual!

I wonder how many ladyboys the do gooders asked?

I remember laying on a police holding cell floor a couple of years back, talking to a couple of Shamrock Bar (Chiang Mai) ladyboys who just been done for meth... anyway, whilst one needed a bit of consoling, the other (slightly uglier one), just couldn't wait to start getting fucked by by skinny, Thai bad boys, with that gangsta lean.

6 hours ago, Dixbill said:

Here's a stunning LB former Mimosa employee. I first saw her in 2004 when she was dancing in the old LB showcase near Drinking Street, opposite Tiffany's. Now she's working in Asean Arts Show, not far from Mimosa. Name is Nong. Anyone met her?

 

Well, as you'd know, her name used to be Eva 5555

I've known her for years & years & she used to be one of my favorites, in fact I still make a point of seeing her whenever I'm in Patts... and I've even been to her home up in Chiang Rai before now

You'd be hard pushed to find a more pleasant ladyboy with excellent English skills, to spend your time with in Patts!!

She's one of the lovely ones

21 hours ago, JustSumGai said:

just on the news, LZ being sued for stealing the opening riff from Taurus. Relatives of Randy California must need new mansions.  Randy always said they lifted it from Spirit, but did not take any action.  LZ is no stranger to the courtroom. They were successfully sued by Howling Wolf or someone for lifting Killing Floor. Forget what they turned it into

You're totally right, in the UK they're very much known for stealing Bert Jansch's 'Backwater slide'.

I don't know that any action was ever taken for that, but it's very much common knowledge 

I'm speechless for once... Ali was a hero to me & Fairport convention were one of my best bands, I loved that whole movement

Pretty jealous that you're going to see Richard Thompson, Hefe!