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or if not enough...can try this.... lol

from memory there is a new bar complex being built at the end of Surawong where i think one bar has a foothold and the reat is empty at this time. next time i pass in a few weeks time all take another look as this may shed some light on the matter of nana closing... maybe

Hi Soul brothers, I joined LBR some months ago, but for technical reasons was always unable to sign on. Recently Bumblebee told me of this thread, so I made an effort to resolve the technical problems...well I got on to Larry and he sorted things out. I've been catching up on vaious rinteresting topics, but this and the Club 131 thread demand my first responses. I had to skip ahead from about page 4, watching every You Tube clip before joining in would just take two long, I will certainly go back and enjoy them at leisure. My Soul heydey was a bit earlier than for most of you, around 67/68, that would have made me 15/16, old enough to dance and take pills (They didn't even call it speed back then), young enough to be treated as a naughty boy, copping a conditional discharge on the only occasion when the cops caught me in possession. To the best of my knowledge the term Northern soul had not been coined either, although it was mainly Northern soul that we listened too. A question Jim, you said the term Northern soul came about because it was primarily in the North of England that the music was popular. That was always my understanding too, but along the way I read that it had more to do with the geographical origins within the US, ie Northern soul was from artists based in Chicago, Detroit, Philly e.t.c. whilst Southern Soul was out of places like Muscle Shoals. Our stomping grounds were mainly in Lncashire, although I came from West Yorkshire, The famous Twisted Wheel in Manchester, a place in Burnley, who's name for some reason eludes me (senior moment). Probably the favourite venue was the Birdtrap in Nelson, only 13 miles from home and you were soon accepted as a regular. Now I've got to take that You Tube tutorial and go searching for some of my old favurites to share with you. BTW Jim, you mentioned to me in another place that Otis would not have made your top ten (male soul singers. after a short reflection I agreed,I thought for a minute more and concluded the guy that really capture the beauty of soul was Jackie Wilson, it was good to read, back up the thread that we are now in agreement

I agree with EyeMahk, the SC crowd is proud to boast a non-LB scene when you talk to them. And the walk of shame would definitely be a huge factor cutting into the LBs finances that would force them to look elsewhere for work. The SC area is just too small to house an LB bar where shy mongers will feel comfortable. Especially if you like GGs too. Everyone knows each other on that strip. And gossips about customers. On the other hand, there are places that could have ST rooms on Soi 23. They could make an all-inclusive venue just off the beaten path of cowboy. Say in Twins Bar or the bars next door to Twins. New walls, new floor, new bar, new paint, new ST rooms upstairs... I still believe that NEP is going to be around for a while, they keep upgrading the bars and clubs there. It looks better all the time. And the quality of girls is equal to those on SC in my opinion. Toss in the LB clubs and Soi 4 in general. Nana is still amazing. Although maybe too many LBs are scaring off the tourists that don't like them. I know alot of guys that hate Soi 4 for this reason and go to Soi Cowboy to stay away from them. When you suggest Soi 4 to them, the first thing they say (just like all the GGs working in BKK that are not on Soi 4) is, "Why, you like Ladyboys huh?" (and in my head I'm saying hell yes!)