glasswax

Don't forget TT Chang who is also thinking of perching next to you guys. The fence members are getting interesting. Might consider hanging out there myself.

Mr. Ken, looks like you've started a movement. We can call ourselves the "Fencers"

They way I feel these days, maybe KenW needs to enlarge that fence for us foggies. Glass

This may sound strange to all the mongers here, but in a way I feel fortunate that my libido has kind of gone south in the past few years and these days I don't even bother anymore, and certainly not with relationships. I was just in Pattaya for about 10 weeks and didn't have sex with even one person, female or male or in-between and didn't give a toss either way. And, ummmmm, they certainly were available, it was low season!

But even when I was much more active, say between 2000 and 2005, I only ever had ONE 'girlfriend', for about a year, and we both cheated on each other constantly so in reality how real was that? Every Thai has an angle, every single one, with us westerners. Sorry but I don't believe some of the stories I see about how "she really did/does love me and after a year or 2 still doesn't want anything from me" .....give it some more time and eventually the bomb will get dropped on you, if for no other reason due to pressure from her family.

Keep in mind everyone is different, but I don't want to be part of any 'game'; I like my bed to myself, and sex is no big deal to me. I keep my phone off most of the time and don't want to be bombarded with messages and calls from people in "the game" when it is on, and the accent also drives me nuts after a while; I hear men my age explaining things to their girlfriends like a 5-year old and I don't want to be that guy. I like Thailand for the good weather and the cheapness factor and the fact they have so many nice beaches. The food is decent also. Relationships? Ehhh.

Well said JD. And a word to punters, don't talk to a Thai the same way she talks to you. She feels slighted because she knows what correct Englsih should sound like even though she can't always say things that way.

Glass

Mardhi - short term lease. Right on

Randi - Be careful on bringing somebody back

I believe we make a big mistake by expecting Thais (same Lao & Cambodia) to have the same values we have and feel sorry for them when played by a falang. I believe that love and relationship, including marriage have a totaly different meaning in the Asian culture than what we are used to, and I believe that our beloved LB's are not so much jaded but do what comes natural to them. Remember the words "I am looking for somebody to take care of me". Its not looking for eternal love, its simply looking for security and money is security and more money is more security.

I happen to have some insight in the local non P4P Thai / Laotion community here in the US and I see older men importing young wifes from Asia. The young wifes come for a better future not for love and leave the old men when established in the country and can stand on their own or when she finds a better prospect, Old man goes back to Asia to bring back an other young wife and so on. Marriage just does not seem to have the same meaning we are used to and lets not forget the first loyalty is not to the husband but to the parents. In most cases I believe the LB or Asian GG will look at a falang husband as a means to get what they want materialy. How is that any different from the guys gaming the girls. I believe the only one who is getting a raw deal is the poor guy who is falling in love with a Thai LB or GG and expexts true love, honesty and a long term comitment.

This is very sad, but quite true often enough.

The Three Musketeers and a Few More! (Continued)

Day 19 (The road trip continued)

The Monkey Training School, the Death Railway, and ‘Hell’s Fire Pass’.

We thought we were simply heading back down river to Kanchanaburi, but as it was still a mystery tour, we moored along side another barge that was there by the riverbank of this temple, and disembarked through the other barge to shore. Lita herded us all into a monkey training school, and to our surprise there was no cover charge, nor was donations asked from us.

Inside there was a little arena for a bit of a free show on how the monkeys were trained to harvest coconuts, and a few other tricks. These monkeys would be trained, and hired out to farmers come harvest time, so that’s how they make their money, and the show was only for educating the Thai’s.

The show began with this little evil looking monkey, starting off with his hands cupped together and gave a wei, when the lady trainer said “Sawasdee Ka”, and then proceeded to show how they are trained, first using gadgets on the ground, before they are sent up the tree to twist and kick off only the ripe coconuts. Then went on to do some tricks, but all the wile giving me dirty looks as if to say, “I’ll knock fuck out of you mister, if you keep looking at me like that!”

This little evil monkey had to do a trick, which was 10 numbers painted on small wooden tiles, face down on the ground after being shuffled by a member of the audience. Then the monkey was asked to pick out number 5, and sure enough he did it. I’m sure the monkey cheated, as the number must have had a mark on the back, and wile the audience clapped, he was still looking at me as if to say, “Aye! I suppose your going to tell everyone how I did that!”

I’m sure the lady trainer noticed this mental conversation between me and the monkey, because she came straight for me, to volunteer to beat the monkey at the same trick, but I was allowed 3 chances, as I’m only a mere human. First she made me face the audience just like the monkey did, and told me to wei to them, so I cupped my hands together, bowed, and said, “Sawasdee khrap”, and she turn and said to me, “Aahhh! That’s a good monkey!” “What was that?” “Oh, nothing sir!”

Then she asked me to pick out number 9, so I went over and right away, I picked up number 6, turned it upside down, and said, “There you go missus!” “No, no! that’s number 6!” So the comedy started with me and her arguing, then I eventually had another go and actually picked out number 9, so I beat the monkey, and won a banana. Now that I had '69' in my hands, I started to tease her, that it was my favorite number, and did she know what I meant, with a nudge and a wink.

Then ‘Dear’ was asked to compete with another monkey at basket ball, and the monkey got the ball in the basket the third go, but ‘Dear’ got it on the second go, and won another banana. Thinking we had won a free breakfast was short lived, as we were not allowed to leave the compound with the banana’s, and had to feed them to the monkey’s on the way out. That evil monkey I beat, now had a big smile on when he saw the banana, “Well you can fuck off mate… you cheating bastard!” And I gave the banana to the gibbon…. Fuck him, that’ll teach him.

Just outside the monkey compound we all climbed a steep embankment, onto the tracks of the “Death Railway” and walked up towards the Japanese Buddha, through the ‘Hell’s Fire Pass’ and took some photos, where Fie Dollah, FatboyUK, and I, posed for a photo, with Fie Dollah saying, “Right lads! Lets show the guys back home, the day we had building the bloody railway!” Bloody was a good word for it, as the tracks were splattered with blood, from big bastard snakes, that were chopped up to bits by the wheels of the train, as they tried to cross the tracks. Everywhere we walked, there were bits of big snakes all over the place, and at that point ‘Fie Dollah’ was winding up FatboyUK, who would shit himself if he saw a snake, “Watch out for snakes jumping out of the bushes and biting you!” That big fella was a bunch of nerves the whole way up the tracks, watching out for any kind of movement in the bushes, and couldn’t wait to get back on the boat.

One rare thing we did see was something like a komodo dragon, about the size of the average crocodile, chopped in half by the tracks. As it was so hot there we left our shirts on the barge, and when we got to the gates of the Buddha, I ask the guys not to go any farther out of respect, as we were improperly dressed to enter, and advised them that there is a dress code when entering a temple.

All the Thai’s passing us, were mostly taking photos of us with the girls, as it was a rare occasion to see so many LB’s in one place, and they were over the moon with us. And as we made out way back down the embankment, some of the Thais stopped us, asking could they take photos of us with our LB’s. So Dear and I stopped to pose for some snaps, when I heard ‘Fie Dollah’ shouting at the Thai’s from behind me, “Here I’ll give you a pose mate!” and the Thai’s taking our photo all started to jump about, all excited, and giggling like school girls, pushing past Dear and I, to quickly take photo’s of ‘Fie Dollah’ and Tar. I turned to see what all the excitement was all about, and there was ‘Fie Dollah’ who pulled one of Tar’s tit’s out, bent over, with his tongue on her nipple, with a big smile. And after the snaps where took, ‘Fie Dollah’ was getting a pat on the back from the Thai’s saying, “You vely good man… thank you, thank you!”…….. dirty, dirty, bastard!..... I recon it’s people like ‘Fie Dollah’ that gives us farangs a bad name.

This is a great read. For your information, thoese shots above are not in Hellfire Pass. The pass is way above where the rail line ends about 30K.

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Another random batch of shots from around town including Classic Cabaret which has an Lb show at night.

Great camera work BB

Some of the most ubiquitous sights in the city are the mainly saffron robed monks going about their daily business. They seem to be everywhere.

Love that stretched tuk-tuk.

Wow, # 54 is a knockout!!!

You can say that again! WOW

Popped into the bar last night, it's a very relaxing spot for enjoying a cold one or more. The staff are pleasant and not too pushy, worth checking out if you are in the area.

That fan shot is just too precious! Glass

S&S is about a 10 minute walk or so to Sally's.

Sally's is on Jomtien Beach Road Soi 5 about a football field away from the beach.

Sugar and Spice is in the Jomtien Complex where the blue sticky is on this map.

http://maps.google.c...a6b8c56171aa0dd

Jomtien Complex is a rather odd area, a mix of gay bars, straight bars, and restaurants. The gay bars are there due tothe proximity to the gay beach which is somewhat appropriatly on the yellow brick road along the beach, not on Jomtien Beach Road.

Ken, if I'm in town the next time you are I'll show you as it'sa tad confusing if you;ve never been there.

OK I see. The JC is on the corner where the baht bus from Patts turns to go down to Jomthien Beach Road. Easy to find. I always thought it was on J beach Road and never could find it.

BR

I had a gal give me a stuffed monkey as a gift and insisted I keep it in my bed. Whenever we chat online she wants me to show her the fucking furry prick in my bed. If it happens not to be there she throws a fit and goes on and on about how I do not lub her anymore. Strange people those Thais.

Tell her the monkey is in the loo. Glass

Nancy looks incredible !!!

As always! Glass

"The Swede’s Thai girlfriend had wanted to play with the dog, but the Swede forbade her. This angered the Kiwi man, so they began fighting."

Well, ok... at least he died fighting for something he truly believed in.

The dog??

We are Bangkoks latest addition to the ladyboy scene, we were formally called Cheers Pub, which was primarily a local expat bar with a great music system and large sreen 70" x 50" tv you choose the music from our exstensive computer file, we will be retaining this feature, we are not a GOGO type bar we are a lounge bar with sofas great comfy bar stools well stocked bar most beer prices except for our German imported beer Veltins are 100 baht all day every day Magners cider 220 large bottle most whiskys all Gin Vodkas Jim Beam Jack D etc all 100 baht with mixers and real lemon not lime for that Gin Tonic,so please come and meet our wonderfull staff and experiance a more relaxed venue to chill and thrill your senses,we proberbly have the cleanest toilet outside of your own, we are situated in a small secluded sub soi located by Wall St /Take care beauty salon we are at the middle of this little piece of paradise on the left after the Green Parrot.

Contact details.

Mobile +66843265180

e-mail darkside.bangkok@yahoo.com

oue website is still under costruction

There is also a Cheers Pub in the front of the Regency Hotel on Soi 22 opp. Wash. Sq. One LB there that I know of, Oam. Glass

I thought it was Dave Duke that's why I asked for the number .

Best laugh I have had all week. You guys are F-u-n-n-y. Glass

Breaking News: For those of you who remember Pookey, she has informed me she is back in town and wants to meet you guys. Here she is a few years back pre bolt-ons. Her number is 0861398026.

Oh Happy days!!!! (smile) Glass

Any word on the Tiger Disco fire? Any of ours on scene? Glass

Well dont take your credit card with you.

fuckin thieving skanks.

they fuckin robbed from one of us.

http://www.pattayaon...pattaya-police/

For....WTF is someone traveling with many expensive wrist watches? This is Pattaya and you are with a 45 year old LB!! Have you lost your mind?

i met her just a couple months ago, set up a rendezvous based upon that very hot photo --short blonde hair on pool table--but when she showed up i recognized her as the lb who'd served me coffee a few days earlier at black canyon--hair not blonde and imho not nearly so pretty as the picture.

her lean body did look good but i couldn't get beyond the disappointing visage.

and experiences like this are the major drawback i've found when making a date online rather than after actually meeting face-to-face--what you think you see is sometimes not at all what you are going to get... so i always suggest a meet-for-coffee--if you're both good to go, together you go, but if you're not, it's not too late to politely dodge a potentially uncomfortable encounter.

However, she does have a very solid package! So round, so firm, so fully packed.Glass

Undoubtedly they will test what the market can bear. So if you buy those 300baht lady drinks they'll try to get 350.

and I believe those prices will push more BMs down to Pattaya and Phuket for more 'bang' for the buck. Glass

WOW TM, how old are you? Will you require a "zimmer frame" LOL! Just kidding buddy,and if a "seeing eye Ladyboy" isn't available then I'll be glad to show you where it's at in October.

Iceberg

BTW- PM me with your travel dates as I'll be there for the entire month of October, and would like to enjoy a few beers together with a fellow yank!

I'll be there the fourth week in Oct. Drop me a line. Glass

skank or not, I'd still "give her one"

me too!!

willie's situation is that he has normal testosterone levels for his age. There would be very few doctors who would be willing to prescribe testosterone for patients that have normal levels - think malpractice lawsuit.

rxpham Thanks for your obviously knowledgeable input. This is a big help in understanding some of these things. One, so called expert, will say one thing and the next thing you know, you hear the sad tale about a bloke who took it all to heart and over did it. Your input is greatly appreciated. Glass

Guys went there early March. Straight in first night from LHR. Majestic Grande, went out for an early with TT at Guess. Big Dogs watched the flow into Nana. Met my straight mates about 9.30 up to Cowboy did the usual including 5 Star great little GG rock bar, listened to free bird & stairway to heaven.

Went in there about midnight as a "well I've been to enough GG bars with you guys I've heard about this new bar maybe we could have a look at it" . Went in, yes it is small and you feel that you are on stage with the spotlights but its is very clean & smart. I quite liked the intimacy, christ we are not watching a football game. With them being close means you are close to the goods. I don't have a problem with that. It was great to have a LB bar in Cowboy. Pricey yes and the girls think they also should be getting away with trumpy prices. New bar bla bla bla. Anyhow first time back after a year. I lasted 10 mins. Sat down with my chums couldn't see the wood for the trees. A guy was sitting in the corner by us. A cracker sat next too him and I thought typical missed that one. Well he didn't respond Rabbit with light between his eyes syndrome. She moved away as she did I leant forwards grabbed he hand and within another 10 we off on our heels up cowboy. Pitta was here name, long black trouseled hair. Lovely body donned an all in one T shirt sleeveless type dress. I love it when they don't bother with a bra the Bristols were pert as combination locks. Took her back to the loom, via Guess she was sadly crap at pool, but last rinse and a jelly to get the JT functioning guaranteed. LT so evening & morning. Great performer and a beauty. I can recommend the place if you are in Cowboy. But not a cheap joint however when you have just landed it worked and did what it was meant to do. Interesting to see a LB in Cowboy. My feeling is that the LB persuasions becoming more acceptable and straight younger guys with the advent also of hangover II are tipping there toe in the ocean. I can see these bars spreading more into the GG zones. Am I right in saying this is a first for Cowboy.

Nah, At different times there have been mixed GG/LB bars in Cowboy. One a few years back (12+) was majority LBs with one or two GGs. Can't remember the name now. Dandee has had various LBs from time to time and Baccara had some LBs before the Europens took it over about 10 years back and the bar next door (now Shark) was mostly LBs all pushing for STs. LBs have never really been main stream in Cowboy, however. Glass

Website is now up for Cockatoo.

http://cockatooladyboybar.com/

Is Odette of Cockatoo the same Odette formerly of Cascades? Without the classic 'odette' hair style, I just can't tell for certain. Glass

Great story FB,jeez I wish I was young hansum man ........freebies are just the best.....I once got free sex of a mamasan in a LB bar.....she came up to me in said bar and said "i like you,I want to come round to your place tonight and fuck you"

Believe me,that would only happen to me in Los.I of course accepted her gracious offer ,being the gentleman I am.

Sounds like Rina of Casanova a few years back. Glass