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7 minutes ago, Pulci Gorgon said:

Reading this thread again, I am wondering what the OP means when he speaks of legends. I read about a supposed legend once in PY. A Chinese man had asked for tips and every one imagined he was lost in Bangkok. Meanwhile, He had reached Pattaya, barfined ladyboys and shot photos of the ladyboys wearing the Popular Army uniforms. That Chinese man was known under the name of Lengcj. The guy made another attempt to monger in Vietnam. He’d headed to Đảo Cát Bà and found no ladyboy. There is no ladyboy hanging in Hạ Long bay unless you manage to invite one from Hanoi. The guy remained as a «legend» although he turned up to be a neurotic with a strong pathological case.

 

So I don’t understand why you want to celebrate legends that are people who decided to be your ennemy in this virtual world. So far, you had been interesting with your cartoons since they seemed to come out on the spur of the moment and they surprised everyone. IMHO, you should keep on drawing your cartoons without thinking too much and keeping in mind how you find a situation funny.

 

Regarding supposed legends, have you ever made a cartoon with Lursarluces who shot so many ladyboys or Teppis (Helsinki) who admitted himself his adventures were those of a madman (see «diary of a madman» by Teppis Helsinki). Back to Nicholas Jackson, I had read about him a few years ago in a web page. As soon as you posted his name, I looked for the webpage and found nothing else than a couple of pages from which you copied and pasted the photo you posted above. (BTW here’s what was posted about Nick Jackson after he passed away : After moving to Phuket nearly 12 years ago, he opened the famed cabaret restaurant Cocktails & Dreams, then went on to run successful bars in the Tiger complex on Soi Bangla.

In recent years, Mr Jackson became better known on the island as “Captain Nick”, operating game-fishing charters off Phuket.) Although I looked for another page again and again, I had to come to this truth: the page had vanished from the net.


 

This brings me to an off topic idea.  About 3 weeks earlier, I had spent time looking for informations on ladyboys in a city in Annam and found nothing. Half a decade ago, I would have thought there is no ladyboy to find there, definitely. But my 6th sense told me I had to keep on searching. I remembered how I had found ladyboys in another city of Annam a few years ago as well as near a beach on an island in Cochinchina. I looked for te webpages with the precious information and actually found … nothing. I tried again using all kind of search engines and browsers but couldn’t find the source of information. (Thanks heaven, the info has been well anchored in my brain since I found it, verified and jotted down in one of my secret web pages).

I noticed that my searches were brought to porn pages (ie xnxx,com) or posts dealing with ladyboys in Bangkok or Pattaya. Neither PY nor google are involved in this result. I don’t know why well targeted information can no longer be found on the web. This is the breeding ground for false legends and fake information. At least, forums were supposed to bring the community to share true information in the past. That's all very well to cultivate legends, but it came to my mind that it becomes urgent to go back to the fundamentals and cultivate simple and clear information sharing too.

 

 

my vote is P&G be inducted into the Hall of Legends.

He has always adorned various Forums regarding ladyboys for many years. Unwavering. He is the only BM I can say has transcended every site.....irregardless of politics.

Plus he has scored LB action in just about every South East Asian market. Where some may specialize in PI LBS, or Vietnam LBS.... P&G is an expert in all of these.

 

Any thing else that I missed here?

 

 

 

let's put it to a vote.

I vote YES.

 

 

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On 6/29/2021 at 11:18 PM, Pulci Gorgon said:

name of Lengcj.

He was a something else. He hated his own country China with a passion. He wanted to dress up LBs Chinese style army uniforms and somehow punish them, although they were all fucking him, pissing on him , tying him up, humiliating him.  The uniform symbolized CPP,  obviously the  lb in question  was just a model. He was highly entertaining but obviously way too out there for the conservative PY. He had some rough trips. Drugged, robbed and left naked with no wallet our phone is one I remember.

On 6/29/2021 at 11:18 PM, Pulci Gorgon said:

Regarding supposed legends,

Heres a little story dating back to 2009/2010 in Bkk, right in the aftermath of the halcyon days of the LB scene. 

I wont name any names, but  will name the forum in question. Its was TLB,Theladyboyforum.com aka Stoogies forum, now rxpharms'  I believe(?).  

Someone on the scene decided to print up a ladyboy calendar containing  Bkk LBs mostly, one particular popular bar at the time was well represented in the calendar, which was not located in NEP.

A few predominant posters decided to buy a copy or two , arrange a meeting and exchange signed (by themselves) copies among the group. There was an expression around then; stogies lapdogs. This came about from stoogie being the top dog deciding everything , but he had a handful of posters who had their tongue so far up his ass I doubt the ever say daylight. They worshipped stoogie and always defended  his sometimes questionable moderating methods.

The members at this meet up,  giving away their autographs written on calendars containing third world transsexuals to eachother were maybe some of these lapdogs. Maybe. I honestly cant remember everyone involved.  I do however remember they were calling themselves monger legends. This is a true story as inconceivable it may sound and is also basically my comment on legends status among johns.

 

On 6/29/2021 at 11:18 PM, Pulci Gorgon said:

At least, forums were supposed to bring the community to share true information in the past.

I thought so too , I tried to join your club but you denied without any explanation. I had to ask why, after a long time you finally replied with an answer I still to this day don't quite understand.

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4 hours ago, seven said:

I thought so too , I tried to join your club but you denied without any explanation. I had to ask why, after a long time you finally replied with an answer I still to this day don't quite understand.

hey hey me too seven! although i confess i clicked on 'join' by accident. but i got the reply that i wasn't suitable anyway [something like that]. No big deal, because i have no interest whatsoever in Vietnam or anyone's birthday.. 

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20 hours ago, seven said:

I thought so too , I tried to join your club but you denied without any explanation. I had to ask why, after a long time you finally replied with an answer I still to this day don't quite understand.

I started with a closed club and tried to be selective. I didn't accept members I must have confused with some one else. 

As you above descrobed, our legends are just legends held by bar customers or more simply good memories we'd like to keep in mind but that are not interesting for those who didn't experience the same stories. 

16 hours ago, blind boy grunt said:

hey hey me too seven! although i confess i clicked on 'join' by accident. but i got the reply that i wasn't suitable anyway [something like that]. No big deal, because i have no interest whatsoever in Vietnam or anyone's birthday.. 

You came into the club, then you decided to leave. This is your choice. 

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On 7/2/2021 at 3:36 AM, Pulci Gorgon said:

You came into the club, then you decided to leave. This is your choice. 

no, not that it's important, i never came into it, never joined. clicked on the 'join' or whatever button it was by accident. i mean no insult but why would i want to join? i have absolutely no interest in visiting Vietnam or knowing anything about it. i didn't decide to leave your club because i never enrolled anyway. you refused me!

you sent me a pm after seeing the join thing...saying that you would check my post record to consider my suitability... then followed with 'application denied'

but no worries.. not a problem, just getting facts straight.

 

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5 hours ago, blind boy grunt said:

no, not that it's important, i never came into it, never joined. clicked on the 'join' or whatever button it was by accident. i mean no insult but why would i want to join? i have absolutely no interest in visiting Vietnam or knowing anything about it. i didn't decide to leave your club because i never enrolled anyway. you refused me!

you sent me a pm after seeing the join thing...saying that you would check my post record to consider my suitability... then followed with 'application denied'

but no worries.. not a problem, just getting facts straight.

 

I confused you with some one else who chose to leave the club. 

You clicked the join button by accident, I clicked the deny button by accident. That ain't a big deal since you're not interested in what I post and that's all very well. 

Back to the OP :

As previously posted, I don't really believe in legends but you have a great talent to write stories and draw cartoons on whatever you want to be a legend. Some of us will probably criticize you if you nominate PY leaders but we'll be always happy to read from your legends.  

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On 6/30/2021 at 7:09 PM, seven said:

He was a something else. He hated his own country China with a passion. He wanted to dress up LBs Chinese style army uniforms and somehow punish them, although they were all fucking him, pissing on him , tying him up, humiliating him.  The uniform symbolized CPP,  obviously the  lb in question  was just a model. He was highly entertaining but obviously way too out there for the conservative PY. He had some rough trips. Drugged, robbed and left naked with no wallet our phone is one I remember.

Heres a little story dating back to 2009/2010 in Bkk, right in the aftermath of the halcyon days of the LB scene. 

I wont name any names, but  will name the forum in question. Its was TLB,Theladyboyforum.com aka Stoogies forum, now rxpharms'  I believe(?).  

Someone on the scene decided to print up a ladyboy calendar containing  Bkk LBs mostly, one particular popular bar at the time was well represented in the calendar, which was not located in NEP.

A few predominant posters decided to buy a copy or two , arrange a meeting and exchange signed (by themselves) copies among the group. There was an expression around then; stogies lapdogs. This came about from stoogie being the top dog deciding everything , but he had a handful of posters who had their tongue so far up his ass I doubt the ever say daylight. They worshipped stoogie and always defended  his sometimes questionable moderating methods.

The members at this meet up,  giving away their autographs written on calendars containing third world transsexuals to eachother were maybe some of these lapdogs. Maybe. I honestly cant remember everyone involved.  I do however remember they were calling themselves monger legends. This is a true story as inconceivable it may sound and is also basically my comment on legends status among johns.

 

I thought so too , I tried to join your club but you denied without any explanation. I had to ask why, after a long time you finally replied with an answer I still to this day don't quite understand.

hey @seven

any links to the stories about the guy who dressed up LBS as CCP military officers? and where he got robbed?

 

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On 7/12/2021 at 4:42 AM, The-Sith said:

any links to the stories about the guy who dressed up LBS as CCP military officers? and where he got robbed?

Its on the Bkk site of LBP. Trip reports, username Lenci. He hasn't posted in a long time. Either banned, in jail or dead.

He shot a hidden video of a thai lb dressed up as a chinese military and I believe he got in trouble for that.

Guy was/is an artist, obviously lost his marbles growing up in China, but very entertaining.  I remember one line; some guy gave a smiley or a laughing emoji to one of his post, he answered: 'dont laugh , being chinese is a horrible thing.'

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On 7/13/2021 at 5:10 AM, seven said:

Its on the Bkk site of LBP. Trip reports, username Lenci. He hasn't posted in a long time. Either banned, in jail or dead.

He shot a hidden video of a thai lb dressed up as a chinese military and I believe he got in trouble for that.

Guy was/is an artist, obviously lost his marbles growing up in China, but very entertaining.  I remember one line; some guy gave a smiley or a laughing emoji to one of his post, he answered: 'dont laugh , being chinese is a horrible thing.'

I haven't read his posts in the BKK website but at PY. 

The guy asked a few questions and introduced himself as a Chinese monger. After a couple of weeks, every one believed he was lost but he posted his photos at PY. He had reached Pattaya on is own and had shot ladyboys dressed up in the uniforms of the Chinese army he had made himself.  Then he seemed to be forgotten. 

When he posted again about 1 year later, someone described him as "the legend" of PY. He hadn't done much though. On the next year he asked questions (in PY) about Đảo Cát Bà. He probably ignored no one was in a position to tell him he wouldn't find ladyboys there. Then his trip to Vietnam remained something unclear. He probably visited dull red light areas in Hanoi uptowns as he was able to name a few of them but he didn't mention ladyboys. 

He mentionned a bribe had cheated him causing a loss of about 3,000 €/US$ but this became more and more unclear. He also explained he needed money since he suffered from arteriosis sclerosis and his life was threatened. That was in 2017. If he was really sick, I don't give him much chance to have survived from Covid. China is a large country though and he might be living in a place that was not hit by the coronavirus. 

Except that a few guys of the PY clique admired him he was a monger like many others.  I don't know what's enough to make a legend, probably a few pints in the right bar on the right evening. 

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34 minutes ago, Pulci Gorgon said:

Except that a few guys of the PY clique admired him he was a monger like many others.

Unfortunately he was ridiculed by most. I forgot to mention his passport was also stolen at the robbery.

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16 hours ago, Papa Sam said:

Ah good old lengcj from Wuhan...

Was it this video:

No, that video I'm referring to was a typical hidden cam job. Poor quality but quite funny. I'm pretty sure PY surveillance dept deleted it.

Was he really from Wuhan? 

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16 hours ago, seven said:

Was he really from Wuhan? 

Yeah he was / is indeed!

He couldn't return home from his trip to Thailand earlier last year because the PRC wouldn't let anyone in anymore, not even residents of Wuhan itself! Shite...

IIRC he eventually left Bangkok and went to Vietnam instead where he held out until he could return to China...

As for the Romscars HOL: I would have nominated forum member @lengcj for the 2020 award (too late now I guess).

Thai ladyboys is a very niche fetish, but Thai ladyboys in military uniforms is really really a super small but interesting niche fetish:

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As for the other nominated people and also at the risk of making myself very unpopular here: Why not give the Romscars HOL 2021 award this time to the whole group (Kendo, Scott, Crippsy, David Bonnie) as a group lifetime achievement award instead of singeling out just one individual? 

 

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On 8/10/2021 at 1:01 PM, Papa Sam said:

As for the Romscars HOL: I would have nominated forum member @lengcj for the 2020 award (too late now I guess).

(... also) Why not give the Romscars HOL 2021 award this time to the whole group (Kendo, Nick, Scott, Crippsy, David Bonnie) as a group lifetime achievement award instead of singeling out just one individual? 

Thanks Papa Sam for the cool pics and Mongers Hall of Legends suggestions,

Yes they come too late for the 2000 inductions, but they are very timely for the 2021 intake, in regards to which let me recap where we stand:

Josh, Nick Jackson and Ernesto are in.  Josh was my own ad hoc choice back in March so I could announce and induct him ahead-of-schedule while he was still alive.  Nick J and Ernesto were announced, respectively, in this thread and in the "Impromptu Nominations" thread and will be officially inducted towards the end of 2021. 

Nick J was proposed by PG and I gave it my immediate concurrence and am still wondering why I did not think of it first since I was good pals with him and the Hall of Legends prioritizes departed mongers who are fondly remembered by most in the community.   I should have inducted Nick J ahead of Jimbo who got his Hall of Legends wings by carrying on the mini-cabaret concept Nick had pioneered.

Ernesto almost made it last year (2020 intake) through the BM popular vote path and he is overdue since he already had legendary status on our Board with his own subforum even before the Clubs and the Hall of Legends existed.  When by chance I saw (on one of Ernesto's old TRs) action pics of him with one of the most iconic ladyboys ever in the Philippines who used to be my main squeeze there 11 years ago!, I said it's time to move him up the ranks into the Hall of Legends.  I believe Ernesto has the full concurrence of the admins, who have a special say with one of the annual inductees at their choice.  

To remind:  Any BM can nominate another BM here or at PY for the Hall of Legends, and, as far as I've noticed, for 2021 we have a standing nomination by The-Sith for PG (at the top of this page).  Not sure if The-Sith was serious, but the nomination stands.

We have a quasi-nomination for The-Sith himself when I mentioned it as a matter of time and a couple BMs seemed to like the idea.  I would want to see some more explicit BM support for The-Sith to be counted as a 2021 nomination.

Now as to your (Papa Sam) nominations:

Nick will be inducted in December as per above.   Kendo and Scott are unlikely.  They are the reason this thread was started.  They are legends in their own right but too controversial by their association to the PY regime that has antagonized far too many of their monger peers.  They are what I call "legends on the bubble".  I would only induct them if there was significant support from LBR BMs, which has not happened.  I tried Kendo last year as a matter of due dilligence and he got a couple of Ayes and far more Nays!  Not trying it again anytime soon unless circumstances change.  Crippsy and David Bonnie I don't know who they are.  If Crippsy is Petesie he is in the same situation as Kendo and Scott.  Friendly popular monger who unfortunately does the bidding of the thickos who now control PY.

Last and foremost: lengcj !  I accept your (Papa Sam's) nomination.  He is a bit of a one-trick pony but it's an awesome trick.  Not only he has a ladyboy in uniform fetish, but it has to be vintage uniform from the Mao cultural revolution era of the PRC.  And it gets even more kinky and specific:  it's the engraved BUTTONS on the uniform that he focuses on to ejaculate...  I would only like to see him drop by once in a while here at LBR (last log in was 2015!) but at least he is a BM here.   Maybe some BM in good standing can PM him at PY and tell him he was nominated to the Hall of Legends and perhaps he will show up again.  I would PM him myself but don't want to give the thickos the satisfaction of busting me another account as lengcj fits the profile of the free-monger whose PMs are being read by those who like to stop things...  I need 5 Ayes in excess of Nays for lengcj to be inducted into the Hall of Legends?  (He already has 2 Ayes from me and Papa Sam...)?  Ayes or Nays for lengcj  gentlemen please ??? !!!

Hope this helps.  Please all BMs feel free to participate with nominations and objections...

Rom

and here is a pic that lengcj might like and that intrigues me:  A Thai ladyboy in Thai army combat uniform in what seems to be a military location?  Staged or Real ? or is she a GG?  not what the caption said...
 

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This is why one shouldn't nominate anyone based on his posts in PY. As a matter of fact, I just saw Lengcj as a normal monger with a Chinese passport. Full stop. I don't find his contribution so outstanding. A couple of trips with ladyboys pics in PRC uniforms then the guy explained his sad experiences (there seems to have been more than one) and his deviations. 

As above mentioned, he's a legend only for silly drunks who've got nothing to deal with in Pattaya bars. 

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11 hours ago, Papa Sam said:

As for the Romscars HOL: I would have nominated forum member @lengcj for the 2020 award

 

 

6 hours ago, Rom said:

Ayes or Nays for lengcj  gentlemen please ??? !!!

Aye.

 

3 hours ago, Pulci Gorgon said:

I don't find his contribution so outstanding. A couple of trips with ladyboys pics in PRC uniforms then the guy explained his sad experiences (there seems to have been more than one) and his deviations. 

I disagree.  His postings on PY has nothing to do with it. It's easier to find PY than LBR, and theres where we found him, nothing else. We obviously have PY fanboys both participating and lurking over here so I'm sure they'll be aware should he appear here.

 

6 hours ago, Rom said:

it has to be vintage uniform from the Mao cultural revolution era of the PRC.  And it gets even more kinky and specific:  it's the engraved BUTTONS on the uniform that he focuses on to ejaculate.

This part alone makes him a legend in my book. He hates his current and former regime with a passion and the best way he sees fit to get even is this way. It's probably lifesaving therapeutic for him.

Obviously he was too much for PY, they have moral standards you know, and it would be great if he could find his way over here.

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This is why one shouldn't nominate anyone based on his posts in PY. As a matter of fact, I just saw Lengcj as a normal monger with a Chinese passport. Full stop. I don't find his contribution so outstanding. A couple of trips with ladyboys pics in PRC uniforms then the guy explained his sad experiences (there seems to have been more than one) and his deviations. 
As above mentioned, he's a legend only for silly drunks who've got nothing to deal with in Pattaya bars. 
In several ways Lengcj is unlike any other ladyboy forums member that I'm aware of...

Yes, he's Chinese - unlike the majority of forum members here or elsewhere... But this alone wouldn't make him stand out.

His military uniform fetish is also very peculiar. Yes, there's a few forum members with (in my simpleton mind) rather odd passions such as bondage etc. but the determination to follow through on his goal to dress Thai ladyboys in Chinese military uniforms is ... peculiar... Must be quite a sensation walking through passport control with (authentic?) Chinese military uniforms in the luggage...

What really impressed me however is,,, and I think this hasn't been mentioned here before,,, he's (almost) blind!! In one of his posts he described how he literally crashed through the glass front door of his hotel in Silom because he simply couldn't see that damn door... don't recall if he had to pay for the door or if the hotel's insurance company paid for it...

Also, some other really weird stuff happened to him. For example, his wallet was stolen in a Nana Plaza bar. He reported this to Thai police but couldn't get the wallet, let alone the money, back and had to get by on a lot less money than planned...
At one point, in a short time hotel in Vietnam, a girl (or probably her pimp) stole quite some money from his backpack. I probably would have given up by then...he however didn't...

And to top it off, he was ladyboy mongering in Bangkok (early 2020) while people in his home town of Wuhan, the center of the current pandemic, where locked down and even dying..
He mentioned that his neighbor had died from COVID-19 and how much he despised the Chinese authorities...

How many other middle aged (50+ I think) almost blind Chinese ladyboys loving, Trump loving (!!!), cosplay loving guys that would do (almost) anything to realize their ladyboys in military uniform fetish do you know of?
Lengcj: A normal monger? No! I beg to differ: He's just the opposite!
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I'm not convinced he had been banned from PY. They had made an icon of him. 

Sorry again but I don't feel impressed by this guy. He is (was ?) Chinese. So what ? This is what made Aussies and Brits posting in PY see him as an exotic monger, therfore legendary. He had problems to see ? That has nothing to do with mongering. 

Except a serie of photos with ladyboys disguised in the costumes he had prepared, he was just an ordinary tourist monger. He went to Pattaya, entered a ladyboy supermarket, barfined a few ladyboys and made his photos. Full stop. 

 

I can read above that he had been stuck in Hanoi. I am now waiting for his reports or photos about dating local talents. Regretfully, he has not been able to find one so far. He has not been able to use his different origin to post about Chinese ladyboys either. I am curious to know how you define a legend. I believed Rom felty like celebrating guys who had brought something to the community, not just jokes, sad gossip, or morbid curiosity.

 

 

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6 hours ago, Papa Sam said:

Trump loving (!!!)

I forgive him for that as he simply couldn’t know any better with his background. He’d support any loud westerner over Xi Jinping.

I agree with you, this guy is something else. Give him the trophy!

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2 hours ago, Pulci Gorgon said:

I'm not convinced he had been banned from PY. 

And you would be correct PG, lengcj has not been banned from the ladyboyspattaya forum, in fact he made a contribution in June and is still lurking so obviously the LPF isn't too much for him. 

His TR's are still there to be enjoyed too. B)

 

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for god's sake Rom, you have just posted a locked topic About...wait for it.... Kendo and of course LBP. Can't you just forget about both of them? just for a while?

speaking for myself i didn't join this forum to be constantly pestered with either of the two aforementioned.

look.. if you want to induct Kendo into your legends thing... just feckin' do it and shut up about the prick.

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