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4 hours ago, Rom said:

Well done Frank.  I googled Peaw and that's her alright.  The first pics I found published on the internet were in ladyboy-ladyboy from January 2004, which means they were likely shot in 2003.  There are also pics from Frank's TGW  (that's not you is it?) from 2004.  That coincides with the time when Ladyboyguide/cock was active.

Peaw was a Bangkok Nana ladyboy, likely Obsessions, and I think she stuck around til the 2010s but got a nosejob, went off hormones, and changed her name to Prew in subsequent pictorials for other websites.  Maybe you can also fact-check that out Frank and let us know if you assess Peaw and Prew are the same... ?

  Anyhoo, the early 2000s Peaw had a girlie ass and puckered hole to die for did she not?

 

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21 hours ago, Frank6519 said:

Hi Nonglee. She was know as Peaw in some softcore sites (may be only pics, sorry, I can't remember)-

wow you guys are literal gods i cant thank you enough sirs thank you so much,time to get back into my research now heheheheh

 

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27 minutes ago, nonglee said:

 

wow you guys are literal gods i cant thank you enough sirs thank you so much,time to get back into my research now heheheheh

 

the only real research is "Experiential Research"..... clicking a mouse is not that.

 

 

buy a plane ticket and start scoring some katoey poontang for real.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, The-Sith said:

the only real research is "Experiential Research"..... clicking a mouse is not that.

 

 

buy a plane ticket and start scoring some katoey poontang for real.

 

 

you are right,hopefully by next year i save up enough for a thailand vacation,hehehehe

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7 hours ago, Rom said:

Well done Frank.  I googled Peaw and that's her alright.  The first pics I found published on the internet were in ladyboy-ladyboy from January 2004, which means they were likely shot in 2003.  There are also pics from Frank's TGW  (that's not you is it?) from 2004.  That coincides with the time when Ladyboyguide/cock was active.

Peaw was a Bangkok Nana ladyboy, likely Obsessions, and I think she stuck around til the 2010s but got a nosejob, went off hormones, and changed her name to Prew in subsequent pictorials for other websites.  Maybe you can also fact-check that out Frank and let us know if you assess Peaw and Prew are the same... ?

  Anyhoo, the early 2000s Peaw had a girlie ass and puckered hole to die for did she not?

 

She's also got profiles in several pornsites :

LadyboyGold.com | Bareback Ladyboy Hardcore Sex

Ladyboygold pretends to supply her email and phone number (but only if you become a member). If you pay for a membership, you will the info as they had it in 2004 (or 2012 at ladyboy.xxx if the site provides members ladyboys information. 
If I were Nonglee, I'd rather watch how she'd change from 2004 to 2010. I'm not even sure this is the same person. 

Frank's TGirl World: Peaw (franks-tgirlworld.com)

Ladyboy Ladyboy: Peaw (ladyboy-ladyboy.com) (Are you still interested  ?)

 

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you are right,hopefully by next year i save up enough for a thailand vacation,hehehehe

 

I suggest you to become a member at Thaifriedly and start exploring. But if you don't want to mees it up with ladyboys, don't contact them unless you're in Thailand ready to meet the one you contact. 

 

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listen to PG on his last suggestion regarding girls on Thaifriendly. They want cash.... not texts. It's an extension of the advice I gave you.

 

 countless guys never act upon their fantasies and just masturbate at home to ladyboy porn and get off on endless texts to thaifriendly girls. And then a portion of those guys actually take the leap and get with ladyboys for real. LBs only want the latter.

 

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On 7/31/2022 at 12:08 AM, Pulci Gorgon said:

She's also got profiles in several pornsites :

LadyboyGold.com | Bareback Ladyboy Hardcore Sex

Ladyboygold pretends to supply her email and phone number (but only if you become a member). If you pay for a membership, you will the info as they had it in 2004 (or 2012 at ladyboy.xxx if the site provides members ladyboys information. 
If I were Nonglee, I'd rather watch how she'd change from 2004 to 2010. I'm not even sure this is the same person. 

Frank's TGirl World: Peaw (franks-tgirlworld.com)

Ladyboy Ladyboy: Peaw (ladyboy-ladyboy.com) (Are you still interested  ?)

 

 

I suggest you to become a member at Thaifriedly and start exploring. But if you don't want to mees it up with ladyboys, don't contact them unless you're in Thailand ready to meet the one you contact. 

 

IMO they are not the same person. But who could say? People do change....

To Rom: As for the old Peaw, there were also a 2003 shot from AsianTS

 

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On 11/15/2021 at 6:19 PM, Pulci Gorgon said:

This morning I was busy doing nothing with no other option than using my phone and watch a few pleasant videos. This is how I viewed again that so called video "Incredible suction ladyboy". The ladyboy's name is Tax. A text says she ambitionned to become a flight attendant. I don't know what she did but I wondered what she has become year after year. 

I hope I am not fucking the thread asking like a newbie if anyone knows about her now. 

 

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This one also featured for AsianTS, and there was known as Pop

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My opinion about it: OMG! This guy had the HOTTEST ladyboys! The most feminine! You can see some of the ladyboys on "Ladyboycock". What beauties, wow! "Cowboy"...he opened a window to happiness for me. A pioneer of ladyboy lovers! He loved and enjoyed her. In videos you can hear him ask more often: "You are okay?" Sad that he didn't have a professional cameraman. I would invite him for a drink! Thanks man! 

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1 hour ago, HectorSonOfTroy said:

My opinion about it: OMG! This guy had the HOTTEST ladyboys! The most feminine! ...

Thanks for resurrecting the thread,   

Apeman and Nigel had the ladyboys all of us mongers were having in the mid-2000s when there were only 4 bars in BKK (KC3, Obsession, Casanova, and Cascade) and 3 in Pattaya (Hi-Boss, Limmatquai, and Penthouse Obsessions).   I would say I recognized 90% of their ladyboy victims from those 7 bars, and did many (not as many) of them myself.  Then they abruptly stopped updating the site and were not around for the big bang of new ladyboy bars of the late 2000s.  I don't recall seeing the Apeman fuck any ladyboys I had not seen on other websites.  They just went to the bars and hired for the movies ladyboys that had been featured at Ladyboy-ladyboy.com and at FTGW.  Not like the Captain Outrageous, another of the ladyboy web sites pioneers, who had his own models who did not work in bars and were never featured in rival ladyboy sites.

 

 

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2 hours ago, Rom said:

Thanks for resurrecting the thread,   

Apeman and Nigel had the ladyboys all of us mongers were having in the mid-2000s when there were only 4 bars in BKK (KC3, Obsession, Casanova, and Cascade) and 3 in Pattaya (Hi-Boss, Limmatquai, and Penthouse Obsessions).   I would say I recognized 90% of their ladyboy victims from those 7 bars, and did many (not as many) of them myself.  Then they abruptly stopped updating the site and were not around for the big bang of new ladyboy bars of the late 2000s.  I don't recall seeing the Apeman fuck any ladyboys I had not seen on other websites.  They just went to the bars and hired for the movies ladyboys that had been featured at Ladyboy-ladyboy.com and at FTGW.  Not like the Captain Outrageous, another of the ladyboy web sites pioneers, who had his own models who did not work in bars and were never featured in rival ladyboy sites.

 

 

"Recognized 90% of their ladyboy victims..." Sir, i envy them!

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16 minutes ago, HectorSonOfTroy said:

"Recognized 90% of their ladyboy victims..." Sir, i envy them!

 

It's just a question of time and money. In the early 2000s the difference in standard of living made it easy to purchase ladyboys services and request them to be submissive. 

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1 hour ago, HectorSonOfTroy said:

"Recognized 90% of their ladyboy victims..." Sir, i envy them!

You envy who?  The ladyboys who got fucked by the Apeman?   I doubt that's what you meant... 

The Apeman paid them a pittance.  One of the ladyboys told me how much and at the time it was like twice what I paid that ladyboy for an LT.  When I asked her why she accepted and if she liked him, she told me she was tricked into shooting the movie and that she despised him.  But I think she was saying what she thought I wanted to hear.

I saw the Apeman a few times around Pattaya (always 1-on-1 with a GG! never with a ladyboy) and he seemed just like another punter having fun and I think the ladyboys were lining up to shoot for him, as they were for the other websites.   I remember my pal the Captain Outrageous telling me in the 2000s that his problem was not finding ladyboy models to shoot, but turning down the less attractive ones.  He said that to remain in good standing in the ladyboys community and save faces all around, he paid a few of them for shoots he never used.

Ladyboy XXX porn sites seem to come and go and some stick around but halt production of new content and/or consolidate with others.  It's an aspect of the industry I would like to know more about.  I dont think HelloLadyboy is producing currently,  only ladyboysfuckedbareback is (starring the black T-shirt guy who owns the site and also PY) and he also pays them like only 5K a shoot (5 years ago!).   How do I know?  TJ's Lily told me.  When i asked her why a superstar like her accepted so little, she told me he gave her more money on other occasions...

I am the OP and I started this thread to justify why a proven ladyboy monger and media creator like the Apeman is not in the Romscars Hall of Legends.  My justification was that he did not cast the ladyboys in a good light.   But that's what I felt 3 years ago after having just created  the Romscars Hall of Legends with the noblest of ideals.  Since then, I have added to it a bar owner and a PY moderator hostile to me that initially I would not have thought of awarding.

I am thinking that perhaps the Apeman in view of such notoriety belongs in the Hall of Legends after all.  Does anyone else think so ?

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8 hours ago, Rom said:

I am thinking that perhaps the Apeman in view of such notoriety belongs in the Hall of Legends after all.  Does anyone else think so ?

While undoubtedly the Apeman is a Legend, he seems to be despised by just about every forum poster.   I would think that having the Apeman in the Hall of Legends devalues the honor and that previous inductees would be offended.  Chivalry is clearly not the Apeman's strong suit.

12 hours ago, Rom said:

had the ladyboys all of us mongers were having in the mid-2000s when there were only 4 bars in BKK (KC3, Obsession, Casanova, and Cascade) and 3 in Pattaya (Hi-Boss, Limmatquai, and Penthouse Obsessions).   I would say I recognized 90% of their ladyboy victims from those 7 bars

So in the Ladyboy Monger world when does the early 2000's turn into the mid-2000's turn into the late 2000's?

I think the opening of two bars had an outsized impact on the guys who posted on ladyboy forums but perhaps don't fall neatly into the mid and late categories.  In Pattaya I'd say that a new era began with the opening of Club 131 in early 2007.  In Bangkok the opening of the original Guess Bar had a similar impact but my guess is that it opened in 2006 though could have been 2005.  Another new era started with the opening of Sensations.

Jenny Star Bar and Linda Bar were two iconic Walking Street ladyboys bars of the early 2000's and Linda Bar still exists today. Predating Club 131 was Stringfellows on the same soi.  The same owner also opened Goldfingers on Soi 7.  Although a smallish bar Sally Bar in Jomtien probably opened in 2002 but perhaps a year earlier.  In the mid-2000's Triple X on 2nd road was a wild and wooly place.

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8 hours ago, Rom said:

You envy who?  The ladyboys who got fucked by the Apeman?   I doubt that's what you meant... 

The Apeman paid them a pittance.  One of the ladyboys told me how much and at the time it was like twice what I paid that ladyboy for an LT.  When I asked her why she accepted and if she liked him, she told me she was tricked into shooting the movie and that she despised him.  But I think she was saying what she thought I wanted to hear.

I saw the Apeman a few times around Pattaya (always 1-on-1 with a GG! never with a ladyboy) and he seemed just like another punter having fun and I think the ladyboys were lining up to shoot for him, as they were for the other websites.   I remember my pal the Captain Outrageous telling me in the 2000s that his problem was not finding ladyboy models to shoot, but turning down the less attractive ones.  He said that to remain in good standing in the ladyboys community and save faces all around, he paid a few of them for shoots he never used.

Ladyboy XXX porn sites seem to come and go and some stick around but halt production of new content and/or consolidate with others.  It's an aspect of the industry I would like to know more about.  I dont think HelloLadyboy is producing currently,  only ladyboysfuckedbareback is (starring the black T-shirt guy who owns the site and also PY) and he also pays them like only 5K a shoot (5 years ago!).   How do I know?  TJ's Lily told me.  When i asked her why a superstar like her accepted so little, she told me he gave her more money on other occasions...

I am the OP and I started this thread to justify why a proven ladyboy monger and media creator like the Apeman is not in the Romscars Hall of Legends.  My justification was that he did not cast the ladyboys in a good light.   But that's what I felt 3 years ago after having just created  the Romscars Hall of Legends with the noblest of ideals.  Since then, I have added to it a bar owner and a PY moderator hostile to me that initially I would not have thought of awarding.

I am thinking that perhaps the Apeman in view of such notoriety belongs in the Hall of Legends after all.  Does anyone else think so ?

Ha, ha, ha...i envy you, sir, because you knew these wonderful, beautiful "Creatures". For me personally, they were the most adorable of all time! For example: "Whyte", "Jane", "Moi", "Kuay"...oh...and hundred others! Amazing...awesome ladyboys!

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9 hours ago, Pulci Gorgon said:

 

It's just a question of time and money. In the early 2000s the difference in standard of living made it easy to purchase ladyboys services and request them to be submissive. 

I find this extreme CONTRAST fascinating! Here, these beautiful, female, womanly, cute, hairless, smooth-skinned girls and there the testosterone-full, manly, hairy, tall man! The contrast between masculine and feminine, between man and woman. His hard, pulling and erected cock and their cute, limp girly cocks...Just awesome!

 

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2 hours ago, HectorSonOfTroy said:

For me personally, the "Hall of Legends" is built for "Cowboy"! He is a Legend!

Yes.  The Apeman (aka "Cowboy" as he called himself) is a Legend in his own right, and personally I don't even think he was as predatory of the ladyboys as he portrays himself.  But he did break laws in Thailand including allegedly, I repeat: ALLEGEDLY,  laws concerning the ladyboys themselves and had to skip town or face the monkey house.  The same goes for Nigel who was a convicted felon in TH and did time and was rumoured to be deliberatly infecting his sex partners.  Moreover, the Apeman never made the effort to be part of the community of ladyboy mongers either online or on the field.  Other than myself, I never saw anyone post they met him.  Paultain said in his book he did and gave him a dress down, but I doubt it.

There are just too many negatives associated to the Apeman and Nigel for them to be the legends in the chivalrous sense intended for the Romscars Hall of Legends.

Still if any BMs think otherwise, they are welcome to go on record here.

 

3 hours ago, Pdoggg said:

So in the Ladyboy Monger world when does the early 2000's turn into the mid-2000's turn into the late 2000's?

I think the opening of two bars had an outsized impact on the guys who posted on ladyboy forums  (...)

I think it's the ladyboy forums what had the outsized impact on the scene.  Prior to them becoming commonplace, ladyboys were a more exclusive secret world for those in the know.  The internet in 1997 began offering glimpses of that world and some western men began venturing to Thailand to try ladyboys, which initially also brought many more Thai boys to the scene.  That's the period in the early 2000s I call "the glory days" because that's when there were not yet so many lof us cramping each others' styles and we all had access to all the ladyboys we saw on the internet in the 4 or 5 bars that existed and where the Apeman also found his models.

The emergence of bars like Stringfellows, Club 131, Guess occurs in the second half of the 2000s and coincides with the emergence of ladyboy boards that made it possible for 100s or 1000s of ladyboy-curious farangs to take the plunge and prepare a visit to Thailand based on what they were reading on the boards.  Not just about the ladyboys but also the logistics of coming to TH on a budget.   Some of those farang newcomers were business inclined and opened new ladyboy bars such as those 3 mentioned (Guess was ladyboy owned).  It stopped being the "secret world of the glory days" but was still very much glory days throughout the 2000s as the scene continued to peak in tandem with the ladyboy forums that made such bars as Sensations and C&D the epicenters of the ladyboy world and brought the mongers together online and at those bars.

I guess in a broader sense you could say the glory days lasted through 2012-14 which is about when the scene peaked in terms of the number of bars and number of ladyboys.  Since then every year more mongers keep coming (including more and more from non-farang countries) and there are fewer and fewer ladyboys to service them.  That's the only timing we can be sure about:  we are irreversibly past the Glory Days.

 

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8 minutes ago, Rom said:

I guess in a broader sense you could say the glory days lasted through 2012-14 which is about when the scene peaked in terms of the number of bars and number of ladyboys.  Since then more mongers keep coming (including more and more from non-farang countries) and there are fewer and fewer ladyboys to service them.  That's the only timing we can be sure about:  we are irreversibly past the Glory Days.

 

Oh nooo ... guess I have heralded the end of the glory days, when travelling to Thailand in 2015 for the first time :biggrin:  So sorry about that!

I do agree the ladyboy scene isn't at a level of the 'glory days' as described by Rom, but personally I think it goes with ups and downs.

Take a look at Cindy's Secrets. Didn't exist yet in 2021, now a thriving business. Check In bar has gone form the Alcocart days, to the shady location in Soi 7 (or was it 5), and certainly upgraded from there to Soi 10. Why Not was a small place in Soi 20, and moved like 5 years ago to their current spectacular location in Soi 4. In Nana plaza, almost all ladyboy bars were gone, and the number is now increasing again. So if you ask me, we're in an ascending spiral again. If I had the time, the cash and the motivation, I wouldn't hesitate to start a ladyboy bar now in BKK. Keep hope guys, the glory days will be back :yahoo:

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32 minutes ago, Dan Miller said:

Keep hope guys, the glory days will be back 

No they won't Dan.  There just aren't nearly as many new ladyboys coming on stream.  And it gets worse every year.

Sure CIB is as fun a bar as any during the glory days, but it does not make up for the loss of KC3 and King's Garden in Pat Pong, each of which had every night twice as many ladyboys as CIB has on a good night (and younger ones too).  I was there in Pat Pong last month and could not believe how I could not spot a single ladyboy in the 2 Pat Pong sois.

As regards Nana, Obsession appears to have as many ladyboys as it used to, but Casanova, Temptations, and above all Cascade are gone.  Cascade in particular was the glory of the glory days.  If you did not experience it, you missed out on ladyboy bar nirvana.

But as you (Dan Miller) so convincingly showcases here at LBR every day there are still plenty of ladyboys to party with at affordable rates.  And despiite my pessimism, I think it will remain like that for the next 5 or 10 years, which for a man my age may be all the stamina I have left to go on intercontinental sex trips.

Let me cheer you up with a couple of my own pics of Cindy back when she was the toast of Cascade during the glory days.

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56 minutes ago, HectorSonOfTroy said:

I don'miran309322.jpgt kmiran70655.jpgnow if i'm allowed to do this? If not i apologize in adcance! This is my absolute favorite: Miran! Oh you Gods! That eyes...that mouth...that skin...Where can i find this Goddess? I want to knee in front of her...mmmmhhhhh........

Another annoying thing about the Apeman is that he made up new names for the ladyboys in his movies and if you try to track them the name will lead you nowhere.  That ladyboy's name was LELA (not "Miran") and I was lucky to get to her before the bolt-ons.  I'd say she went on to become one of the TOP 10 ladyboys in BKK for the next 2-3 years but I prefered her flatchested.  She must just have turned 40 now... Are you sure you want to find her?  possibly HIM ?

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1 hour ago, Rom said:

Sure CIB is as fun a bar as any during the glory days, but it does not make up for the loss of KC3 and King's Garden in Pat Pong, each of which had every night twice as many ladyboys as CIB has on a good night (and younger ones too).

Exaggeration is also an art :rolleye0012:  I've been to KC3 many times (it still existed after 2014) but the number of girls was probably equal to CIB. But who's counting :biggrin:  Been  to Casanova too, but yesss, I did miss out on Cascade. Guess can't have it all hahaha. 

Still, I think your look is a little too pessimistic. These things take time. And since the economic situation in Thailand doesnt change as quick as most Thai people want, I think the sex scene will remain as such, for both GGs and LBs. Optimism is in my nature, when there are two or three nice ladyboy lounge bars, I am more than happy. I just hope in the future, fingers crossed indeed we still have the stamina, we can share a drink again in one of the bars ... and draw a final conclusion on whether glory days have returned :drinks:  

P.s. Thx for showing the pics of Cindy ... her awesome smile is timeless!

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2 hours ago, Rom said:

Another annoying thing about the Apeman is that he made up new names for the ladyboys in his movies and if you try to track them the name will lead you nowhere.  That ladyboy's name was LELA (not "Miran") and I was lucky to get to her before the bolt-ons.  I'd say she went on to become one of the TOP 10 ladyboys in BKK for the next 2-3 years but I prefered her flatchested.  She must just have turned 40 now... Are you sure you want to find her?  possibly HIM ?

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Thank you for your answer, you are great, sir! Oh yeah, absolutely sure, sir! I would choose her over any 20 year old! Lela...Lela...thank you so much for telling me her real name, sir! I would so like to get to know her...i would really get on my knees and invite her to dinner! Dreams...dreams, sir....

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