Quietguy Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 minute ago, seven said: you have to vote left if you want to keep it. The problem is that Labour Party isn't very left. They have introduced changes previously which also undermined the NHS. Gordon Brown brought in the 'Private Finance Initiative' where new hospitals were built by private companies and leased to the NHS. The costs of leasing are high, maintenance is a problem, the new hospitals have had construction problems, and the leases are usually for 25 years so nobody knows what will happen after then. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 49 minutes ago, Pdoggg said: This is a class warfare issue but nowadays people seem far more concerned with the culture war Yup, some are more offended by these ‘horrible’ wokes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 15 minutes ago, Quietguy said: The problem is that Labour Party isn't very left. They have introduced changes previously which also undermined the NHS. Same here again. There’s no true left anymore. I have hope for this guy though. Mick Lynch. Something so rare these days he’s actually intelligent ( which is the least we should demand from politicians) and has a passion for what he does. He’s head and shoulders above the other muppets trying to debate him, very refreshing so see a guy like this. He made that GB news populist Pierce Morgan look like the minion he really is the other day. The general secretary of the Rail, Maritime and Transport Workers . https://www.politico.eu/article/mick-lynch-the-union-chief-running-rings-around-britains-politicos/amp/ Brits might be stuck at home this week, but at least union chief Mick Lynch is giving them top popcorn moments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietguy Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 Just now, seven said: Same here again. There’s no true left anymore. I have hope for this guy though. https://www.politico.eu/article/mick-lynch-the-union-chief-running-rings-around-britains-politicos/amp/ Unfortunately Mick Lynch says he is not interested in party politics. He is not a Labour (or any party) member. His union the RMT disaffiliated fom the Labour Party in 2004. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soiboy Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 59 minutes ago, Pdoggg said: This is a class warfare issue but nowadays people seem far more concerned with the culture war And there lies the crux of the matter in the US for so many issues - "class." The US has never really come to terms with the concept (and reality) of class. Acknowledging class would be some how undemocratic. Of course, class IS very hard to define. Elements of wealth, education, occupation, political affiliation and others all play a part, but not the sole defining part. Trump did not create the MAGA crowd, but he branded them and gave them a home in American politics; and a dear leader they could identify with and look up to. "Hey, here's a president just as crass and ignorant as me! I have been validated!" Class is very much a key aspect of the culture war now brewing in the US. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted June 27, 2022 Author Share Posted June 27, 2022 1 hour ago, soiboy said: Trump did not create the MAGA crowd, but he branded them and gave them a home in American politics; and a dear leader they could identify with and look up to. "Hey, here's a president just as crass Exactly. This criminal gave them the tools. Now we pay the highest price imaginable all over the world, Norway terror attack against a gay bar last Saturday being the latest deed. He justified hate and intolerance, gave his followers the mandate to release evilness. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke007 Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 57 minutes ago, Fenton said: You can't blame Trump for what happened in Norway. Err what about Anders Brevik?. Does he get blamed for that as well. But they will, these EU remoaners hold no bounds, if its not Trump blame Boris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pulci Gorgon Posted June 27, 2022 Share Posted June 27, 2022 36 minutes ago, Fenton said: I'm no Sigmund Freud No, you're not. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodie Posted June 28, 2022 Share Posted June 28, 2022 12 hours ago, seven said: Same here again. There’s no true left anymore. I have hope for this guy though. Mick Lynch. Something so rare these days he’s actually intelligent ( which is the least we should demand from politicians) and has a passion for what he does. He’s head and shoulders above the other muppets trying to debate him, very refreshing so see a guy like this. He made that GB news populist Pierce Morgan look like the minion he really is the other day. The general secretary of the Rail, Maritime and Transport Workers . https://www.politico.eu/article/mick-lynch-the-union-chief-running-rings-around-britains-politicos/amp/ Brits might be stuck at home this week, but at least union chief Mick Lynch is giving them top popcorn moments. Yes, have watched a couple of interviews with him. He sounds a bit of a reasoned debater, unlike some others.( Makes you wonder how he got voted into his position). Pierce , in his interview was getting a bit rattled, although he can get rattled and bombastic if interviewing a five year old over their favorite kids programme. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 25 minutes ago, Woodie said: Pierce The moron goes on about Lynchs Facebook avatar when there are more pressing issues. GB news rightwing for ya. They couldn't care less for ordinary people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted June 28, 2022 Author Share Posted June 28, 2022 Take this. While the U.S. democrats been sitting on their hands for years, this guy is actually doing something. There is hope after all. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietguy Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 He was speaking at a rally outside Euston station on Saturday morning. I didn't know about it or would have tried to be there. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jun/26/i-dont-want-to-be-an-icon-mick-lynch-on-winning-the-rail-strike-pr-battle 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Ranger Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 10 hours ago, seven said: Take this. While the U.S. democrats been sitting on their hands for years, this guy is actually doing something. There is hope after all. Tore into the nay sayers and Tories on Question Time last week in a good way 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Ranger Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 44 minutes ago, Quietguy said: He was speaking at a rally outside Euston station on Saturday morning. I didn't know about it or would have tried to be there. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jun/26/i-dont-want-to-be-an-icon-mick-lynch-on-winning-the-rail-strike-pr-battle Seen a few off his interviews and question time. This guy talks a lot off sense. I worked as a track relayer (track renewals) and a plate layer (track maintenance) for 8 years after I left the Army and the working conditions back then as well as health and safety were a joke as were the wages. Good on this guy for standing up for the unions. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Ranger Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 2 minutes ago, Lone Ranger said: Seen a few off his interviews and question time. This guy talks a lot off sense. I worked as a track relayer (track renewals) and a plate layer (track maintenance) for 8 years after I left the Army and the working conditions back then as well as health and safety were a joke as were the wages. Good on this guy for standing up for the unions. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted June 29, 2022 Author Share Posted June 29, 2022 4 hours ago, Lone Ranger said: Good on this guy for standing up for the unions. Good man, LR. Unions are essential now more than ever. Starbucks over here are under scrutiny as they refuse to allow union nor following the law for employees. Another horrible company is Joe the Juice. Don't know if you have those charlatans over there. Slaveowners basically, employees have zero rights , aren't even allowed to visit the toilet during shift. Charging €6 for some processed 'juice', people are still buying their shit though unfortunately. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Ranger Posted June 29, 2022 Share Posted June 29, 2022 If anyone needs a reminder of what unions have done for the workers, lets remember that they put an end to this for a start. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka Posted June 30, 2022 Share Posted June 30, 2022 Seems I got the BA5.. fatigue being the worst and its still hanging around for me.. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietguy Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 F*CK! I've just tested positive for covid-19. I thought I had a bad cold and sore throat, but thought I should test and it's positive. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted July 1, 2022 Author Share Posted July 1, 2022 1 minute ago, Quietguy said: F*CK! I've just tested positive for covid-19. I thought I had a bad cold and sore throat, but thought I should test and it's positive. Oh noooo! You’re all vaxxed up triple masks and hardly ever leave the house ?! How in the hell did this happen?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietguy Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, seven said: How in the hell did this happen?? I can only think it was from unmasked person/s on public transport or supermarket. I wear mask outside, but not many other people are. Mask only prevents wearer spreading virus, but not receiving it. Covid cases in uk are rising again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted July 1, 2022 Author Share Posted July 1, 2022 14 minutes ago, Quietguy said: Covid cases in uk are rising again. Same here. Hang in there. You’ll be fine, my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietguy Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 48 minutes ago, seven said: Hang in there. You’ll be fine, my friend. Thanks! I'm not too worried. I've had four jabs so it shouldn't be too serious. It's probably the new BA.4 or BA.5 variant which is supposed to be milder, and not prevented by vaccine. Just feels like a bad cold with sore throat, and I've been feeling tired. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietguy Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 Covid infections on rise in UK. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-62009230 Some graphs for bbg: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdoggg Posted July 1, 2022 Share Posted July 1, 2022 14 minutes ago, Quietguy said: Some graphs for bbg: I'm sure he will appreciate the graphs! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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