alaskanbear Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 1 hour ago, seven said: Same here. If we don't do away with the current system now, it will be hell to pay. In the 14th century, once the mass death phase of the plague was over, that is exactly what the feudal elites tried to do: to reimpose their old privileges and traditions and economic logic - on a population that had just lived through the most traumatic event imaginable. _____ If we follow the orthodox economic playbook now, just as after 2008, once the crisis is over, political elites will call for more austerity - healthcare cuts, wage cuts and tax rises for ordinary people to reduce government spending and erode the debt pile. I don't trust the Dems or the Reps, try something new all independents ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duke007 Posted April 4, 2020 Share Posted April 4, 2020 Self isolation made easy 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Watch this.. it may save your life or a ton of pain. It's better than hoping for the Trump Administration making a ventilator available for you anyways. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted April 5, 2020 Author Share Posted April 5, 2020 https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/02/media/chris-cuomo-coronavirus-reliable-sources/index.html Chris Cuomo sick at home. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandiUno2 Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 "Everybody wants to be the biggest. But no one focuses on being the nicest. James Garetson, Tiger King. These are trying times. Let's work on being nice to each other. So when this pandemic is over, the fight for our survival, and those we love, will not have been done in vain. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bumblebee Posted April 5, 2020 Share Posted April 5, 2020 Nice touch by the neighbours. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Seems that we're UNDERCOUNTING the ACTUAL # of Coronavirus DEATHS because not everyone can even get tested to confirm they have it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdoggg Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 5 hours ago, RandiUno2 said: "Everybody wants to be the biggest. But no one focuses on being the nicest. James Garetson, Tiger King. These are trying times. Let's work on being nice to each other. So when this pandemic is over, the fight for our survival, and those we love, will not have been done in vain. Well said Randi! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdoggg Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 Big Brother is watching! Facebook is launching new tools that use anonymized location data collected from users to show whether people are adhering to social distancing measures designed to stop the spread of the COVID-19 coronavirus. The company said on Monday that its Data for Good program is developing Disease Prevention Maps, which show how people are moving around regions. Facebook hopes this data can be used alongside other information that public health officials collect to help determine areas where COVID-19 outbreaks are likely to occur. According to Facebook, the maps include: Co-location data: The probability that people in one area will come into contact with each other. Movement range trends: This data shows at a regional level whether people are staying home. In the San Francisco Bay Area, for instance, a higher proportion population is sheltering in place in part because tech jobs allow for remote work. A social connectedness index: This data reveals friendships across states to show the areas where people might need more support. Facebook says it won’t show patterns around the movements of any specific individuals, and won’t be used to identify individuals who aren’t adhering to the social distancing or shelter-in-place guidelines. “We think that Facebook and the wider tech industry can continue to find innovative ways to help respond to that crisis,” said a company spokesperson. “But we don’t think the help entails compromising privacy.” The collection of location data is opt-in, meaning Facebook users will have to choose to share it, although the company has previously warned that it can pick up information about users’ movements through other features, like check-ins. Facebook also said that it won’t be looking into why people in particular areas are or are not following the guidelines. A spokesperson noted that instead, the company will explore trends across populations. For instance, some states have a larger population of people who have transient jobs, or would struggle to work from home. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woodie Posted April 6, 2020 Share Posted April 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Cherjam said: some of my pics from my daily walk to relieve my boredom and excercise I think at this time the shots of the graveyards are a bit close to the bone. I remember walking through the graveyard at St Andrews Scotland and reading the headstones. Whole families wiped out. Some had 10 or 12 in a household!. A bit scary considering what is going on now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mod1 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 This thread is now locked and will be hoovered. But even beyond the lese majeste issue, we pride ourselves on being a friendly forum. In these dark days of COVID-19 we're mostly cooped up at home, perhaps out of work, and likely to have loved ones infected. Please let's not have extremely hostile political discussions impact the camaraderie of our band of brothers. A new thread has been opened. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mod1 Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 Thread re-opened. To be clear mentions of any RF are not permitted on LBR. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTel Posted April 7, 2020 Share Posted April 7, 2020 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcat Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 I think it was Kurtz the Austrian leader who said yesterday that it is likely that no international travel will be possible without a vaccine , that may be applicable to Austria but i think this is how it will be all over. The other way is a Anti body test cert which is still a way off in the UK after all the Chinese ones UK bought are faulty . Just hope they get this sorted by October, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdoggg Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 5 hours ago, Tomcat said: I think it was Kurtz the Austrian leader who said yesterday that it is likely that no international travel will be possible without a vaccine , that may be applicable to Austria but i think this is how it will be all over. That's my guess too TC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Quietguy Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 On 3/23/2020 at 11:35 AM, stoolpusher said: I was told today immigration at Jomtien was standing room only as many tourists have to extend the holiday Visa. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigTel Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8196515/The-coronavirus-facts-China-wants-world-forget.html The coronavirus facts China wants the world to forget: Beijing releases a COVID-19 timeline - but fails to include whistle-blowers, Huanan food market and 'the order to destroy all samples' State news agency Xinhua published a 37-page report to show China's efforts It said the timeline proved Beijing shared news timely and informed the world But a MailOnline analysis discovers some crucial events were not mentioned Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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deleted Posted April 8, 2020 Share Posted April 8, 2020 Macabre pic on the front page of the online New York Times. Lots of people have died in NY over the past few days, but hospitalizations are down/flattening. 779 people have died there today. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted April 8, 2020 Author Share Posted April 8, 2020 Sweden says Trump criticism of virus strategy 'factually wrong https://news.yahoo.com/sweden-says-trump-criticism-virus-115036838.html "They talk about Sweden, but Sweden is suffering very greatly," Trump told reporters. The Swedish state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell: “Yes, now, no one should take this too seriously. It is, of course, that all countries suffer from it here, more or less. Of course, it is very difficult in Sweden. Not least in the health sector. However, in comparison with the situation in New York, where I happen to have a relative that works, so it is still very good in Sweden,” said Tegnell. In contrast to the american president claims Anders Tegnell, that herd immunity is the only way to go – either through the vaccine or by the fact that large parts of the population get the disease and become immune. “I don’t know what he thinks of it (the resistance against the herd-immunity, ed.), but those of us who work with infectious diseases know that this type of disease continues to spread, until we achieve immunity in the population. There is no other way to stop it.” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyzzy Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 4 hours ago, seven said: “I don’t know what he thinks of it (the resistance against the herd-immunity, ed.), but those of us who work with infectious diseases know that this type of disease continues to spread, until we achieve immunity in the population. There is no other way to stop it.” Well I am certainly not agreeing with Trump. There are some studies starting to show up that those that had the virus and were asymptomatic or had very little illness did not create any/many antibodies and therefor are likely not immune. The latest I heard on this was today from a doctor on TV that was in the Obama administration in some major health capacity. The only thing we really know about this virus is we don't know shit. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strocube Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 “The only thing we really know about this virus is we don't know shit.” Yep. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Quinn Posted April 9, 2020 Share Posted April 9, 2020 BANGKOK — Bangkok City Hall is preparing to impose a ban on the sale of alcohol starting Friday with a stated aim to curb gatherings and coronavirus infection. The ban, lasting 10 days at this stage, would be imposed in order to dissuade alcohol-fueled parties and gatherings, particularly at night where the 10pm to 4am curfew is already in effect nationwide, officials say. https://www.khaosodenglish.com/news/crimecourtscalamity/2020/04/09/bangkok-to-ban-sale-of-booze-for-10-days-starting-friday/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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