Quietguy Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 19 minutes ago, seven said: Closing the schools would take away so many workers in healthcare who then have to be home with their kids since school closed. No not necessarily. In UK (and France I believe) healthcare workers and other 'key workers' can still send their kids to the schools where remaining teachers take care of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyzzy Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 This was a nice story: 1,000 retired health care workers volunteer to work in NYC https://news.yahoo.com/1-000-retired-health-care-062334411.html 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietguy Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 22 minutes ago, seven said: Closing a society is completely wrong. It won't stop the virus. It won't stop the virus but it will slow it's spread. If it spreads as quickly as present, doubling every couple of days, it will overwhelm any health service. A total lockdown seems to have worked in Wuhan. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietguy Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 14 minutes ago, xyzzy said: This was a nice story: Same in uk. So far over 11,500 retired NHS staff including 6000 retired doctors and 2,500 nurses have volunteered to return to work to help out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 12 minutes ago, Quietguy said: A total lockdown seems to have worked in Wuhan. I hope you are right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcat Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 I think we need to wait a few weeks for some clarity on Wuhan.. Its early days yet and it could bounce back badly . No one has had a vaccine yet and as it was total lockdown so how immune are all these people really . Heres hoping for the best... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietguy Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 i agree. But I can only go on the advice of our doctors, epidemiologists, nurses and scientists who are overwhelmingly calling for a lockdown. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcat Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 some reports are coming out that suggest that 50% of the UK population may already have had this disease....it could be in Wuhan that many more have had it and that maybe it will burn itself out.. so many theories its all confusing . The new test coming on stream will show if you have had Covid and not if you have it it now , a big difference In think the Mardi Gras still went ahead , a Covid 19 party in all but name Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xyzzy Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Tomcat said: some reports are coming out that suggest that 50% of the UK population may already have had this disease....it could be in Wuhan that many more have had it and that maybe it will burn itself out.. so many theories its all confusing . The new test coming on stream will show if you have had Covid and not if you have it it now , a big difference Yes there are some antibody tests that can tell if one already had the virus and recovered. Although considering they don't have enough regular COVID-19 tests that will probably be a way off for most. I heard something about that test that shows if you have COVID-19 or if you already had it. But not much lately. Who knows maybe by summer/fall they will have do-it-yourself home tests? It is actually a possibility to take the blood from those that have recovered and have antibodies, refine the blood and make something that will help the very sick. But it's so labor/machine intensive it doesn't seem much of a reasonable option. It got a little media play a week or two ago as being successful but not much since. So maybe the idea is no longer in favor or just too hard. I'm not a doctor but I play one on the LB sites. I would think that if 50% of the UK population had the virus at some point the ICU/critical services would have been overrun long ago. At the very least they would have seen a steady stream of patients letting them know the virus was already on the loose. But since I'm not a doctor... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alaskanbear Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 Well china lifts the lock down do we take it at face value ?? OR and I hope I am wrong all the people that had the covid19 are at the bottom of a hole some place. Again I hope I am wrong about this horror movie. Alaska just hit 36 now couple days ago it was 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 3 hours ago, alaskanbear said: Well china lifts the lock down do we take it at face value ?? OR and I hope I am wrong all the people that had the covid19 are at the bottom of a hole some place. Again I hope I am wrong about this horror movie. Alaska just hit 36 now couple days ago it was 12. There's 2 ways to think about that. When they say they locked down.. you can think they seriously locked everything down.. unlike here on the streets where everyone is still outside, blasting music like its a party and not caring. The second thing is they were locked down over 50 days. That's 3.5 cycles of the virus running its course and hopefully no one spreading it to someone else other than the people they were locked down with. BTW ever wonder why Trump won't use the defense production act and he wants to end this quarantine. This is exactly what conservatives have always wanted.. 1. They get rich making states bid against each other for medical supplies. 2. Social security spending goes down as they think hopefully a lot of older peeps will die 3. Those that live will be so in debt with medical bills.. they can use their newly placed judges to seize their wealth and property in the name of debt collection. Woohoo conservatives! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pdoggg Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 10 minutes ago, Ashoka said: here's 2 ways to think about that. When they say they locked down.. you can think they seriously locked everything down.. unlike here on the streets where everyone is still outside, blasting music like its a party and not caring. The second thing is they were locked down over 50 days. That's 3.5 cycles of the virus running its course and hopefully no one spreading it to someone else other than the people they were locked down with. Thanks Ashoka for the NYC update. Am curious what's going on in my old hometown. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, Pdoggg said: Thanks Ashoka for the NYC update. Am curious what's going on in my old hometown. Young people think they're immune. Even some middle age people are like look at that retard who's got a mask and scarf to avoid coronavirus while getting food. Some people are so easily brainwashed by the main stream media. The police sometimes do drivebys with loudspeakers blasting.. this is a health emergency.. go home, go indoors, but 20 mins later, they're back out on the streets partying. Edit: LOL https://www.cnn.com/2020/03/24/health/kentucky-coronavirus-party-infection/index.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietguy Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 A graph from the Financial Times indicates places where a lockdown was implemented early have seen a lower rate of increase in Covid-19. Of course that might change I suppose. The US has one of the highest rates of increase, and the World Health Organisation says the US has the potential to become the epicentre of the virus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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duke007 Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 The Prince of Wales (Charles) has been tested positive for the Coronavirus, though only mild symptoms and is said to be in good health, hope everything goes well for him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quietguy Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 He will have to avoid contact with his parents. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quinn Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 1 hour ago, duke007 said: The Prince of Wales (Charles) has been tested positive for the Coronavirus, though only mild symptoms and is said to be in good health, hope everything goes well for him Actually it's CamillaVirus ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ashoka Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 I guess there are idiots everywhere.. even in Ireland. Avoid these ones please.. https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-coronavirus-teenagers-coronavirus-covid-tag-elderly-20200324-dhkqeel5orbyjbsylvizvgih7m-story.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 Swedish PM warned over 'Russian roulette-style' Covid-19 strategy Health experts ‘deeply concerned’ about Sweden’s response Criticism is mounting in Sweden of the government’s approach to Covid-19, with academics warning that its strategy of building broad immunity while protecting at-risk groups – similar to that initially adopted by the UK – amounted to “Russian roulette” and could end in disaster. The prime minister, Stefan Löfven, on Sunday night called on all Swedes to accept individual responsibility in stopping the rapid spread of the virus as the number of patients in intensive care in Stockholm continued to rise sharply. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/23/swedish-pm-warned-russian-roulette-covid-19-strategy-herd-immunity 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcat Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 19 hours ago, xyzzy said: long ago. At the very least they would have seen a steady stream of patients letting them know the virus was already on the loose. But since I'm not a doctor... Some Scientists have put the lower estimate at 45,000,000 in UK but of course its still a theory among others but its getting more credence every day. In Wuhan there is speculation that 80% may have in fact have had it and so herd immunity was reached. It could be possible that for most there are in fact no symptoms... we will soon find out when the new tests are on stream which check if one had had it Once they have this data in one supposes that will let them decide when to break the lockdown. I have a feeling that its will be sooner than we think The Wheels of Industry must turn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcat Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 It seems that 25% of deaths in UK are from a certain religion .. and they are not Christian.. this was aired on LBC radio. extended families and all that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 2 minutes ago, Tomcat said: It seems that 25% of deaths in UK are from a certain religion .. and they are not Christian.. this was aired on LBC radio. extended families and all that In Stockholm 50% are from Somalia and Iran. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomcat Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 yah put the prayer mat away for 3 months Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seven Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 Or stop licking religious shrines. In one of the videos, viewed more than a million times on Instagram, a man is seen at the Masumeh shrine in Qom, saying, "I'm not scared of coronavirus", before licking and kissing the gates. https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-51706021 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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