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Here's a test for you. 

This adorable little long-haired minx goes by the name "Ethereal_Thomas" on Chaturbate.  He's a fav of mine as I try to make my quota of three wanks a day. 

Q: Is he found in the "Men" chatroom or the "Trans" chatroom?

A: The "Men" chatroom.

Conclusion: Well, that's clear....I'm not gay....

 

 

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On 2/25/2021 at 10:57 PM, rxpharm said:

yes, gg = genetic girl

Or as my ladyboy partner says in broken English  "Generic Girl".

Over the years, I have thought this is the best definition of GG.  Just a basic, generic girl.

To the question at hand:

Three things that are germane to the Gay/Not Gay Discussion: 1)Birth Sex; 2) Gender; 3) Sexuality

Birth Sex =  Male, Female, or Intersex

Gender = Male, Female, Non-binary

Sexuality = Straight, Gay, Bisexual, Pansexual, Asexual, etc

Most of us are viewed by the world  1)Male; 2) Male 3) Bisexual - Assuming most of us still aspire to have sexual relations with Generic Girls from time to time

Many of us view ourselves as 1) Male 2) Male 3) Straight - Assuming we haven't crossed the line to dating boys with hairy chests.

For me the critical issue is one's attraction template:   In short, I am primarily attracted to the "female gender" regardless of that persons Birth sex or sexuality. I'm not attracted to tough girl/dyke lesbians - Why? Because they present in the male gender.  So even though tough girl dykes are Female at birth, I'm not attracted to them because they don't present according to female gender norms.  

Also, ass play does not make you gay or straight?  When a man married to a generic girl lets her put on a strap on and peg his arse, nobody accuses the husband of being gay, even though his arse if full of a 12 inch dildo.

This pandemic has gone on too long if I'm address the Gay/Not Gay issue on a ladyboy forum!

 

 

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15 hours ago, soiboy said:

Here's a test for you. 

This adorable little long-haired minx goes by the name "Ethereal_Thomas" on Chaturbate.  He's a fav of mine as I try to make my quota of three wanks a day. 

Q: Is he found in the "Men" chatroom or the "Trans" chatroom?

A: The "Men" chatroom.

Conclusion: Well, that's clear....I'm not gay....

 

 

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This is so good for discussion:

Gender is all about "expression".  Although this individual "identifies" as male, their gender expression is characteristic of many things feminine from the long hair, the purposeful demour facial expression, the feathers adorning the hair, and even the jockstrap(normally a gay male signifier) is adorned with lace to make it femme.  The gender expression here is totally female

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7 hours ago, RandiUno2 said:

This is so good for discussion:

Gender is all about "expression".  Although this individual "identifies" as male, their gender expression is characteristic of many things feminine from the long hair, the purposeful demour facial expression, the feathers adorning the hair, and even the jockstrap(normally a gay male signifier) is adorned with lace to make it femme.  The gender expression here is totally female

Exactly right.  This topic, that involves myriad biological, psychological, social and cultural elements, is rich with nuance and ripe for thoughtful discussion.  Unfortunately, these topics almost always go directly to the sewer; one need only look at what the moron brigade on "that other" forum do to such threads.  But here we are erudite gentlemen of the world, and we dismiss that lesser lot with a collective hair flick.  Hmm...OK...well, something like that, anyway...

So for the next assignment, class, please review the video linked below.  Repeatedly if necessary.  And then write a 500 word essay on the topic of, yes, you guessed it, "Am I Gay?"

https://xhamster.com/videos/cutie-pie-cums-14514162

(You have to suffer through 10 seconds of ads at the beginning, but the wait is worth it.)

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1 minute ago, Cherjam said:

we are all poofters, its just some do not want to admit it. We all suck cock and some fuck or get fucked from boys in make up, stop the denial

Ah, yes, a well-known denizen of that other forum.  Slither back there.  It's where you in particular belong.  There's plenty there like you.  You all enjoy each other's company.  We don't enjoy the likes of you here.

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1 hour ago, soiboy said:

one need only look at what the moron brigade on "that other" forum do to such threads.

The most passable ladyboy.  Has to be passable!  There can't be any sign of male whatsoever. I'm not gay!

 I cant be arsed with that other forum anymore. It used to be at least a few interesting threads but now its at an all-time low

with quite a few of the biggest village idiots ever.  By coincidence, the number 1 prize idiot has a resemblance of your username.

Maybe its not fair, as he seems to be an illiterate an(sic) intellectually challenged.

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I had kept the same opinion for years since I started with tgirls : we aren't gay since we just shag special girls. then I started thinking we had blackships : those  who suck ladyboys' cocks, those who bottom, those who look for the largest cock to bottom and be dominated etc ... However, if I don't want to admit I search contacts in LGBTs add websites, I just have to retire to a nursing home and stop playing with ladyboys. This doesn't mean I will look for gay me, with caps and big mustaches. 

Don't be pissed if you don't want to see it this way, we're all ladymen's lovers. BTW, changing my mind didn't drill me a second asshole where I had one. 

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I notice with many guys into Ladyboys that there is a deep seeded obsession with avoiding BEING GAY.

I suffered this too, in the past. It's probably conditioned into us at an early age of making jokes about fags and insulting them and using derogatory language.

It's kind of like calling a Japanese person Korean.

But actually it may be deeper than that. It's just us. We really don't feel gay or believe we are gay (because we are not), so identifying with that group becomes uncomfortable...... because its not us. It's kind of like calling a Chinese person Korean. 

 

Add to that another attribute of many guys into Ladyboys..... the "TrySexual" Factor. A guy who is open to trying just about anything sexually at least once and gets off on variety and new things. This also sums me up.

The TrySexual Factor means we are always pushing our comfort zone and trying new things that hit up against the way of who we are and what we are.....which can be fluid and desires can be fluid too. And this aspect sometimes leaves blokes questioning themselves after the fact. After you just beat off to gay porn or ladyboy porn. After you just blew a 20 year old femboy on a drunken night of whiskey. 

 

An Inuit (Eskimo) has 37 words for snow. Which type are you? Powder Snow, PouffySnow, IceySnow, Packing Snow, Snowflake, etc.... 

Don't bother trying to explain any of that to someone in the tropics. Regular people will just default us to Gay or Bi.

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2 hours ago, The-Sith said:

An Inuit (Eskimo) has 37 words for snow. Which type are you? Powder Snow, PouffySnow, IceySnow, Packing Snow, Snowflake, etc.... 

I'm twinkie snow, or pixie snow, or femme snow, or femboy snow, or good old ladyboy snow, and sometimes even pert A-cup GG snow.  The skiing's terrific with any of those snow conditions.

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3 hours ago, The-Sith said:

An Inuit (Eskimo) has 37 words for snow. Which type are you? Powder Snow, PouffySnow, IceySnow, Packing Snow, Snowflake, etc.... 

How much would The Sith pay for a romp in the snow with bi-Miley?

Don't eat the yellow snow!   :cold:

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21 hours ago, The-Sith said:

I notice with many guys into Ladyboys that there is a deep seeded obsession with avoiding BEING GAY.

I suffered this too, in the past. It's probably conditioned into us at an early age of making jokes about fags and insulting them and using derogatory language.

Yes when I was young same sex relationships (between Men) were illegal, the monotheistic religions preached against homosexuality, and homophobia and sexism were the staple of many 'comedians' . But these days most Western countries accept and legalise gay relationships, religions are more tolerant, and homophobia and sexism is generally unacceptable in the media.

I know there is still some stigma and homophobia in parts of society, but I would have thought that guys who are into ladyboys and on ladyboy forums would know better.

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1 hour ago, Quietguy said:

Yes when I was young same sex relationships (between Men) were illegal, the monotheistic religions preached against homosexuality, and homophobia and sexism were the staple of many 'comedians' . But these days most Western countries accept and legalise gay relationships, religions are more tolerant, and homophobia and sexism is generally unacceptable in the media.

I know there is still some stigma and homophobia in parts of society, but I would have thought that guys who are into ladyboys and on ladyboy forums would know better.

The reality today, however is this:

 

1. Gay men are much more accepted

2. Lipstick lesbians and bisexual females are celebrated and butch lesbians are accepted

3. Male to female trans are much more accepted than before but still it's more a recent phenomena and they are lower on the totem pole of LGBTQ acceptance than gays and lesbians, and lower on totem pole of societal acceptance.... but at least things are better now for them.

4. The lowest of the low on all totem poles in LGBTQ, and definitely societal acceptance, is the LOVERS OF TRANS. We have no acceptance, and are totally not acknowledged nor appropriate for coming out of the closet in society. Stigma, outcasting, women and men making derogatory remarks, maybe even problems at the job would ensue and perhaps not be protected by law.

 

 

 

 

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46 minutes ago, The-Sith said:

The reality today, however is this:

 

1. Gay men are much more accepted

2. Lipstick lesbians and bisexual females are celebrated and butch lesbians are accepted

3. Male to female trans are much more accepted than before but still it's more a recent phenomena and they are lower on the totem pole of LGBTQ acceptance than gays and lesbians, and lower on totem pole of societal acceptance.... but at least things are better now for them.

4. The lowest of the low on all totem poles in LGBTQ, and definitely societal acceptance, is the LOVERS OF TRANS. We have no acceptance, and are totally not acknowledged nor appropriate for coming out of the closet in society. Stigma, outcasting, women and men making derogatory remarks, maybe even problems at the job would ensue and perhaps not be protected by law.

I agree with that, but why would guys on a ladyboy forum refer to guys who like lbs as 'queer'. Why would they claim they are in no way gay?

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1 hour ago, Quietguy said:

I agree with that, but why would guys on a ladyboy forum refer to guys who like lbs as 'queer'. Why would they claim they are in no way gay?

You think that guys who like LBS are "gay"?

 

That's a real surprise. I try to be super acute and honest about this stuff (i.e. avoid 'denial' and other things like that)...... and I don't see most of the lads I know in the LB scene as "gay"..... I don't see myself as "gay".

 

I DEFINITELY am NOT straight. That's not an appropriate label for me either...... but "gay" is even less accurate than straight.

First of all, gay guys very rarely are attracted to ladyboys. Gay guys aren't licking and smelling GG pussy like its their favorite hobby. And gay guys usually look well groomed, fashionable, fit (this in no way describes the majority of LB lovers).

I think I understand what you are saying..... its that guys into LBS should not be judgemental or derogatory against gay men because its wrong, and we overlap in behavior and attraction too. 

I totally agree. Being into LBS should make us more compassionate for the those groups left in the fringes of society because of their adult sexual feelings.

 

But who cares..... like I said, for those who live in the tropics...... there is only one word for snow. They haven't seen it, they haven't touched it. So their mind can only process one variation. Don't bother talking about snow to someone like that. 

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1 hour ago, Quietguy said:

I agree with that, but why would guys on a ladyboy forum refer to guys who like lbs as 'queer'. Why would they claim they are in no way gay?

Ask any ladyboy if she is gay and she will say she is straight,  they don't consider themselves to be gay 

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2 minutes ago, stoolpusher said:

Ask any ladyboy if she is gay and she will say she is straight,  they don't consider themselves to be gay 

That's right Stoolpusher...... and I know a lot of ladyboys who became ladyboys because they didn't want to attract gay men into their life. They wanted straight guys who like femininity.

 

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5 hours ago, The-Sith said:

The lowest of the low on all totem poles in LGBTQ, and definitely societal acceptance, is the LOVERS OF TRANS. We have no acceptance, and are totally not acknowledged nor appropriate for coming out of the closet in society.

We don't even get an initial!

How about a C for Chaser?  Chaser is somewhat pejorative but at one time so was Queer.

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