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As my 3 biggest customers are based in ROI, a no deal would be absolutely devastating for my business. I would have no doubt there would be several lay offs on the back of a no deal (possibly myself included) as those customers have made it quite clear they would look for a more local supplier with no fear of product being delayed at the border. So many other NI businesses are in the same dilemna, so you will forgive me if I say you can take your misguided no deal exceptionalism and shove it up your arse.

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No, you take your self righteous anger and ram it.  If some in the Republic don't want to trade that's a shame, but to expect the majority of the UK to overturn a democratic decision because you're unsure of the future is weak and childish.  No one gave a fuck when the fishing industry was smashed. Oh no, I'm alright Jack. I'm doing fine. Fuck them, they obviously don't deserve a job.

 

I'm sick of listening to remainers. I don't want to share a country with them. Maybe its time for the UK to break up. Anything except having to listen to cunts like you for another 3 years.  

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7 hours ago, redrockrevival said:

I'm sick of listening to remainers. I don't want to share a country with them. Maybe its time for the UK to break up. Anything except having to listen to cunts like you for another 3 years.  

Could not of put it better myself !    well said Redrock   :drinks:

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Well i hope you guys enjoy the picking the imaginary money off the money trees, digging up all the gold at the end of tge rainbow, and flying about on your unicorns when Brexit happens, after all that is what the Leave campaign promised isn't it.

BTW, I most certainly did not resort to name calling Redrock and Big Tel, I am quite surprised at you both, but a "cunt like me" will remember who my friends are in the future.

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You know I dont know all the ins and outs BUT,since the UK shares a common border with Ireland, why cant those two entities come up with an agreement??  Or will the EU object and punish Ireland?

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Well that's the main problem. The DUP, on who Boris Johnson relies, won't agree to Northern Ireland being treated differently to the rest of the UK.

A lot of Conservative Unionist MPs won't either, unless the DUP agrees.

The EU won't 'punish' the Republic of Ireland, but they will support whatever they want as they will be staying in the EU.

I think the only solution is for Northern Ireland to remain in the European Customs Union and to have customs/border checks on the UK mainland. But Johnson would have to get the DUP to agree to that. Perhaps he'll bung them another billion.

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1 hour ago, Quietguy said:

I think the only solution is for Northern Ireland to remain in the European Customs Union and to have customs/border checks on the UK mainland.

That sounds pretty good to me.  But what do I know? I come from a country that elected Donald Trump.

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I thought long and hard before I voted to leave the EU.  But the more I looked at this organisation the less I liked it. If the vote had gone the other way I would have accepted what my fellow countymen had decided. I'm no little Englander, nor am I anti-fuck all. I just worry about the direction the EU is going. I just see a monster in the making. I see big problems in years to come.

I'm not overly nationalistic either, but I've worked and socialised with great people throughout the country, and I've always been made very welcome wherever I've been. It just makes me angry to see some Remainers who are willing to weaken their own country rather than just accept the path we need to follow.

 

And Ciobha. You're obviously not a cunt. That's unfortunate language for which I apologise. And apologies to anyone else who found the remark distasteful - which it surely was.

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On 10/13/2019 at 11:59 AM, Pdoggg said:

That sounds pretty good to me.  

Well it's actually what Theresa May proposed in her 3 Withdrawal agreements but they were all rejected by Parliament. The DUP voted against as it would mean Northern Ireland being treated differently to the rest of the UK. Boris Johnson and the 'Hard Brexit' Conservative MPs also voted against.

Speculation is now that he might accept it as he is having to face reality as Prime Minister. We wait to see what the outcome of his negotiations are.

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9 hours ago, redrockrevival said:

 It just makes me angry to see some Remainers who are willing to weaken their own country rather than just accept the path we need to follow.

People who are against leaving aren't doing so because they are willing to weaken the UK. They believe the UK will be weaker politically and economically if we do leave.

I voted against remaining in the Common Market when we had the referendum in 1975. I thought it was just for the benefit of big business. I have many reservations about the way the EU operates now, particularly about it's support for austerity measures across Europe and for market liberalisation, which means encouraging privatisation by member states.

But I do think it can only be changed from within. I know that won't be easy, but neither will trying to survive on our own in a world which is carved into trading blocks.

Perhaps we will eventually be better off. During the referendum campaign pro-Brexit campaigners acknowleged that we might be worse off after leaving, but claimed that we would make great trade deals, the rest of the world would be falling over themselves to do deals with us, and that after 2-5 years we would be better off.

But now Farage says he never said that we would be better off, just that we would be self-governing. Rees-Mogg now says it might be 50 years before we are better off.

I do accept that the majority voted to Leave in 2016, but I think now we all know more of what the consequences will be, rather than false promises on the side of a bus.

 

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18 hours ago, redrockrevival said:

And Ciobha. You're obviously not a cunt. That's unfortunate language for which I apologise. And apologies to anyone else who found the remark distasteful - which it surely was.

Apology accepted :love0081:

BTW, I certainly do not wish for another referendum - the country voted, and the vote was leave. I believe in democracy and accept the result. My concern isn't with leaving, it is leaving without some sort of trade deal, which I believe would have a devastating effect on people in all of the UK, and in Ireland. I am no big fan of the EU personally, unelected egotistical anti British representatives whose aim is not the improved lifestyle of people within the bloc, but to make achieve a United Europe and benefit a few countries within it, so much so that I think the EU can be "cuntish". That said, there are several advantages when you look from a free trade perspective, and I don't think the UK is strong enough anymore to stand on it's own two feet. i,e Our manufacturing industry is in the toilet, and further diminishing annually, so we simply don't make enough to empower ourselves, and with a lack of skills, it would take a few generations to rectify that issue.

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8 hours ago, ciobha said:

benefit a few countries within it

So which countries are you referring to?  Powerhouses like France and Germany?   Smaller advanced economies such as the Scandanavian countries?  Or as Donald Trump would say, the shithole countries of the EU with developing economies?


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I would say it is very much set up to suit France and Germany. I am no expert, but looking from the outside, to me it all roads lead to a powerhouse type of economy with those two countries calling the shots and dictating to everybody else what to do, how to run their countries. If they refuse or rebel, the handouts will stop, kind of a blackmail system.

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Good old Boris has secured a deal with the EU at 10-30am this morning. B)

So hopefully Brexit will get done in Parliament on Saturday :clapping:, which incidentally is the first time Parliament has sat on a Saturday since the Falklands War. 

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I must admit I felt a little uneasy

When she bent down to tie the laces of my shoe

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2 hours ago, duke007 said:

So hopefully Brexit will get done in Parliament on Saturday :clapping:, which incidentally is the first time Parliament has sat on a Saturday since the Falklands War. 

I don't really understand the ins and out but reading a BBC article it seem's both Labour's Corbyn and uber-nationalist Farage are against the deal as well as Scotish MPs and Northern Ireland Unionists.   So are the votes really there? 


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2 hours ago, Pdoggg said:

I don't really understand the ins and out

Don't worry , PD. It will all go down smooth. :biggrin:

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3 hours ago, Pdoggg said:

I don't really understand the ins and out but reading a BBC article it seem's both Labour's Corbyn and uber-nationalist Farage are against the deal as well as Scotish MPs and Northern Ireland Unionists.   So are the votes really there? 

Nobody understands the ins and outs! As to whether Johnson will get his agreement through, we wait and see.

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I must admit I felt a little uneasy

When she bent down to tie the laces of my shoe

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I can't believe I have just wasted nearly 4 minutes of my life watching that 'wankstain's' video in the post above :blink:


I must admit I felt a little uneasy

When she bent down to tie the laces of my shoe

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Heres another one then. Enjoy:

You've got Rees-Mogg lounging on the front bench like a sinister, middle-aged rent boy.

 

 

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Not yet, but there's still 6 hours and 40 minutes to go. As far as I know the PM hasn't been found dead in a ditch yet.

Perhaps he meant 31 October next year.

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So Bercow is no longer Speaker.  Honestly,  I'm not really sure where he stands politically but from I've seen on TV he was entertaining.  More fun than Nancy or Ryan!  Unlike former Speaker Denny Hastert (USA) at least Bercow never molested underage boys.    

Reading about the election there would seem to be two key factors:

1) Will Leavers who voted Labour all their lives vote for the Tories much like life long Democrats who voted for Trump?

2) pre-election coalitions with some parties not contesting certain seats. 

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