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Oh well, its not easy being a lefty among this hard-nosed rightwing crowd. And I thought THE FORUM was conservative.:biggrin:

I'll give it a rest now and wish you best of luck with Brexit, deal or no deal , hard Brexit or stay...

Only  ladymen cockpics from now on :)

 

 

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1 minute ago, seven said:

Oh well, its not easy being a lefty among this hard-nosed rightwing crowd. And I thought THE FORUM was conservative.:biggrin:

I'll give it a rest now and wish you best of luck with Brexit, deal or no deal , hard Brexit or stay...

Only  ladymen cockpics from now on :)

 

 

Don't be too disheartened mate. I certainly have a socialist streak in me, but I think the old choices of left and right are collapsing - certainly in the UK anyway. Don't pick sides just pick policies. I've become quite a fan of George Galloway. He was possibly the most hated man in Britain during the first Gulf War. A rabble rousing, unpatriotic, terrorist loving communist. Or so the media led me to believe. But he saw right through those wankers Blair and Bush and called it for what it really was. Today he's still a total lefty but one that still fights for the common man.

Interesting times man.

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2 hours ago, seven said:

Oh well, its not easy being a lefty among this hard-nosed rightwing crowd. And I thought THE FORUM was conservative.:biggrin:

I'll give it a rest now and wish you best of luck with Brexit, deal or no deal , hard Brexit or stay...

Only  ladymen cockpics from now on :)

 

 

Now, I would say YOU are in the majority.

This thread is about Brexit and I have contributed to getting off that topic, sorry.

Pics of Ladymen, their hard cocks and the white nectar from which it flows are most welcome!!!

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23 hours ago, redrockrevival said:

So in the US what happens if you get sick, break a leg, etc? 

Surely you don't get left on the pavement, em...sidewalk.

I haven't been back in the USA since Obamacare was enacted so don't have first hand knowledge of the current system.

The insurance that I had at my last job was quite good.   What helped is that my company self insured and only used the insurance company for administrative purposes.  The insurance company took on no financial risk so there was no incentive for Claims Department to be unfair.  There was also an appeals process where someone from my company could overrule the insurance company since my company was paying anyway.

The problem with the old system was that if you or someone in your family had a pre-existing condition and lose your job then it will be extremely difficult to get health insurance at an affordable premium.  

I feel strongly that medical care is a human right and not a privilege. 

Under the pre-Obamacare system if you did not have insurance and you got very sick you could very well go bankrupt and lose your home.  Part of the problem is the rack rate might be 10 times the negotiated rate that an insurance company would have to pay to a hospital.

Your money or your life.

  I'm not really sure how Obamacare is working out.


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6 hours ago, Pdoggg said:

The insurance that I had at my last job was quite good.   What helped is that my company self insured and only used the insurance company for administrative purposes.  The insurance company took on no financial risk so there was no incentive for Claims Department to be unfair.  There was also an appeals process where someone from my company could overrule the insurance company since my company was paying anyway.

  Things have changed a bit these days at many businesses. Many companies have employees paying a greater amount of insurance costs. The ACA actually made it worse for companies offering their employees great health care plans (so called Cadillac plans). A friend of mine has to play a much greater part of his insurance at his work because he has a Cadillac plan.   

6 hours ago, Pdoggg said:

The problem with the old system was that if you or someone in your family had a pre-existing condition and lose your job then it will be extremely difficult to get health insurance at an affordable premium.

Preexisting conditions were a big part of my problem before the ACA. I have one skin condition, that isn't as noticeable as it once was, that I haven't taken medicine for in 10/15 years. But it will be a preexisting condition for all my days I guess.

6 hours ago, Pdoggg said:

Under the pre-Obamacare system if you did not have insurance and you got very sick you could very well go bankrupt and lose your home.  Part of the problem is the rack rate might be 10 times the negotiated rate that an insurance company would have to pay to a hospital.

I came back from Thailand with a GI tract problem years ago and had to have a stool test. I had changed insurance companies and the testing lab sent the bill to my old insurance company that of course rejected it. The lab then billed me directly US$450 for the test. I called and gave them my new insurance details. Going through the insurance company the bill was reduced to US$90. So the hospital was charging 5x as much to people with no insurance. FWIW it's been a few years but the last stool test I had in Thailand cost 100 baht.

A lady I know back where I grew up was all pissed off about the ACA as she made too much money to get any assistance on paying her insurance premium. The cheapest insurance she could get a few years ago was US$1000 dollars a month. She was considering going without insurance. She changed her mind after she had a brain aneurysm. The medical helicopter flight alone to a bigger city cost US$100k. So not having insurance in the US is like playing Russian roulette.

Sorry, back to Brexit. I don't really understand all the facts. But the EU quotas on immigrants would be hard to swallow. I think GB has already absorbed a lot of Indian immigrates to make up for their past? So much so it starts rants on other boards. At least they kept the pound and could manipulate it as necessary. But I really know little about Brexit as it usually just starts arguments and I have no idea who to believe. IMO the EU is a failed experiment. What works for one country at a certain time might not work for others. But again I know little.

BTW Rick it may not sound like it but I think the vast majority of guys on LB boards are liberals. Because of the nature of our sexual preferences. You will find a majority (IMO) of conservatives on the Thai GG boards like pattaya-addicts.  

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