Brief recent P.Burgos review

[BobDobbs]

 Decided to try out Cafe Cubana. It is teeming with LBs after dark all sitting in the cafe past the patio or outside. There is a wall of LB freelancers hanging around the front of the nearby Best Western Oxford Suites too. You can grab one, and buy viagra/cialis from a dozen different hustlers on the 10 second walk back to your hotel.

Some ridiculously beautiful ones that show up later in the night. They don't bother you unless you look at them and smile tho sometimes they may sit with you if brand new and don't know the game well. You can also just pick a table full of them and party it up with drinks, lots of guys did that going right to a LB table. I saw one sit in front of a guy who wanted no part in LBs, so watched them uncomfortably tolerate each other until I decided to invite over to eat with me and saved the guy. Apparently just arrived that night in Manila from a province. Bought dinner, drinks, asked me if crashing at my hotel was OK as too late to spend the long ride home to her Manila suburbs apt tho I had no intention of sex just wanted a dinner date. Didn't ask for any money, I paid anyway as was one of the greatest GFE ever. Crazy fetish for tall men, climbed me like a tree and really got off on it.

If you want maximum discretion, stay at the Royal Bellagio, the hotel above cafe cubana so can bring your lb date to the elevator in the bar inside and disappear to your room. Theres an elevator security guy but the place is arab owned and they don't care at all about bringing up LBs from the bar. I unfortunately stayed at the Best Western which if you don't get one of the executive rooms and just a reg room, is a total dump with roaches in the bathroom and filthy interior, air-conditioning leaks occasionally, bed is good though. Security didn't ask for ID of LB guests which has already been posted here. Weechat around midnight had countless freelancers within 200m search by distance. Anyway if offered a 19th floor room, refuse it is a shithole.

Same pick pocket Mindanao kids hanging around in groups getting constantly chased by security. Expect them to try and snatch sunglasses, phone, anything. Why Phil cops don't clear these kids permanently who knows.

Traffic at night (Wed in my case) is a parking lot. Nothing moving at all except dudes on suicycles racing beside the sidewalk so prob a bad idea to taxi here at night.

Edit: if you need an ATM, theres 2 across the street from Cafe Cubana outside of  the Makati Palace Hotel where the guards stand at the main entrance.

 

[BobDobbs]

Some more advice, an Australian guy the size of hulk hogan sitting by the rail at Cafe Cubana was getting pestered by those annoying street vendors and I had to prevent him from killing the vendor and getting into police trouble. I just say no thanks, make hand signal I'm not interested and look away, they never ask me twice. Or I totally ignore them (best strategy). He made the mistake of saying hey I'm trying to eat here, can you understand to fuck off and none of these guys speak good English so just assume they can continue pestering you. It almost seems organized, usually armed security out front of cafe cubana blows a whistle then chases away the beggers and vendors harassing patrons but at the same time a distraction with security is happening the vendors exploit this and arrive like a tsunami blanketing the front patrons until security returns. Avoid the immediate rail seats and patio, you can still see all the freelancers in the street one table over.

Some Europeans (Swedes?)  were at the patio drinking and left their phones sitting there on the table like they were back in Sweden and no surprise it got snatched. Security caught the kid and returned it but FFS, hide all valuables away from arms reach of passerby desperate homeless and organized snatcher kids.

[BobDobbs]

Hilarious sign inside the hotel attached to Cafe Cubana. There is some model looking Russian chicks sometimes freelancing across the street by Makati Palace hotel, no idea what they charge but prob a lot

 

[BobDobbs]

Review of P.Burgos on the weekend. Cafe Cubana will have some stunner looking LBs show up for breakfast in the morning. They sit near the washrooms morning and night almost always where the standing tables are so they can show off outfits and look at every guy going to and from the bathrooms. The whole block seems owned by Saudis, so often arabs are there eating and scoping out the LBs but they are generally respectfull of the LBs (not the wait staff tho, grabbing their asses and shit), the Americans and Australians are also cool with the worst tourists as purely an anecdote being the young Brits. Don't sit near them because they can't hold liquor worth shit, treat staff like garbage, make lewd comments at the LB tables near the bathroom and twice I saw security surround them with tasers and tell them to leave. First was them picking a fight with a LB table and second was some idiot throwing money and change at a waitress. Remember these are only anecdotes from the 3 days and nights I've been there, so 6 times in total, usually its very friendly inside.

A few doors down is Arabian Nights club and sisha restaurant with surprisingly good food, esp the breakfast platters. Can sit in there and watch the street or get takeout. I didn't go to the night club but I'm betting its like high society in Angeles with freelancers galore.

The street beside 711 near Cafe Cubana, if you walk down there you'll find Ziggurat restaurant which is a really good patio Arab restaurant. Perfect place to bring dates tho they always want to go to Cafe Cubana to show you off to other LBs.

Fri night there was at least 40 LBs hanging in front of the Best Western and walking up and down past Cafe Cubana. I preferred the ones inside the cafe to walking the street since they look much better, and after buying them drinks/dinner they didn't want any $$ tho I paid for taxi generously. No theft or drama issues, really nice girls actually. If you want a reg GF just go to the cafe forget the dating sites.

Finally I always tipped the Cafe security since they are the only real professional security I've seen yet in Phils meaning they don't stare at your girl, they hail cabs for them and negotiate a good fare, and they allow them in where other places they will have to wait outside  for you.

Edit, at night if walking with a LB nobody will harass you, whereas if walking by yourself on P.Burgos hookers latch on to you, kids swarm you and those fake iphone vendor guys are relentless following you around. Your date will just shout "school" in tagalog at the kids and they scatter.

[BobDobbs]

Forgot to note, if you get one of the Best Western rooms ending in 10, like 1410, 1210 ect, you will have perfect view from balcony (ask front desk to unlock it) of front of cafe cubuna and LBs standing outside Best Western at night. Or suite in front with big wrap around windows.
 

If you can get a lower floor, something under 10 because the elevators are shit and take forever stopping every floor for huge group of employees.

To complete the weekend review Sat night most of the LBs get picked up fast, tho later at night like midnight there will be some stunners showing up. Price is whatever you offer, never ask them or get huge inflated price. They'll also will go with you to Cafe Cubana if asked where if you seem flirty/normal and not a creep over drinks the asking bid will prob be taken.

Finally they love to be submissive, so if you whisper to them in Cafe Cubana how you're going to make them be your sissy girl they'll go totally crazy unless one of the alpha top ones, there's a few walking around offering their services very bluntly.

 

[Pdoggg]

3 hours ago, BobDobbs said:

Price is whatever you offer, never ask them or get huge inflated price.

Lots of good info in your report Mr Dobbs!  

Like you, I prefer to make the offer, especially in situations where I know it will be accepted.   

The alternative, by asking how much, too often leads into a negotiation and who wants that prior to sex.

My buddy Eyemahk convinced me of this many moons ago.  Of course every guy has different methods but it has always worked for me.

Some guys don't like to talk price at all, but generally these are guys who for their own personal reasons actually prefer paying more than most guys, maybe the baht or piso amounts are so meaningless to them, why not pay more or maybe they want to make sure that they are first in line the next time.

 

[BobDobbs]

1 hour ago, Pdoggg said:

Lots of good info in your report Mr Dobbs!  

Like you, I prefer to make the offer, especially in situations where I know it will be accepted.   

The alternative, by asking how much, too often leads into a negotiation and who wants that prior to sex.

My buddy Eyemahk convinced me of this many moons ago.  Of course every guy has different methods but it has always worked for me.

Some guys don't like to talk price at all, but generally these are guys who for their own personal reasons actually prefer paying more than most guys, maybe the baht or piso amounts are so meaningless to them, why not pay more or maybe they want to make sure that they are first in line the next time.

 

Other day I was sitting in that open air tequila/Mexican themed bar across the street from the Best Western and every guy in there along the rail was waving in LBs from the street to sit and drink and then name a price. That's another good bar to scope the talent outside and make an offer instead of approaching on the sidewalk where you'll get swarmed lol

 

[BobDobbs]

Alas I was going to review the LBs in LA Cafe when I ended up just dating one I met at Cafe Cubana, so to avoid playing with fire didn't go but prelim research I found a review of the Brickstone hotel attached to LA Cafe here

1500p a night, not bad rooms either and also Motel 168 looks promising if you were going to ladyboy monger there and want to avoid mad traffic back to your reg hotel. 

Everytime I walk past Cubana its filled with guys sitting with ladyboys, was again tonight. If I were to do this all over again I'd get a large suite at Royal Bellagio for just a few days, meet some stunners in the cafe then airbnb sexy vacation with the one LB the rest of the time near greenbelt or around Phils away from the sex district.

Edit, also look at couchsurfing site, LBs in manila offering their apts with 'shared bed' 

[Pdoggg]

1 hour ago, BobDobbs said:

look at couchsurfing site, LBs in manila offering their apts with 'shared bed' 

That's one stop shopping!    

Here's a link to Couchsurfing

[BobDobbs]

Speaking of price, a great looking LB freelancer who claimed to be brand new to the area just offered me 500p short time across the street from cafe cubana, so Angeles prices are possible on P.Burgos. 

[BobDobbs]

A really good bar on P.Burgos is 'Cheers' run by an Irish ex MMA fighter. Tons of expats to drink with and you can smoke inside if you want. Located right beside the Citadel Inn. Always some LBs and bargirls in there playing pool too.

[sydneyjohn57]

1 hour ago, BobDobbs said:

A really good bar on P.Burgos is 'Cheers' run by an Irish ex MMA fighter. Tons of expats to drink with and you can smoke inside if you want. Located right beside the Citadel Inn. Always some LBs and bargirls in there playing pool too.

Cheers is a shadow of its former self although is still one of the alfresco type bars that I visit each trip. It was the first alfresco in PBurgos with previous names of Vila Bar and before that Matrix. The service has declined terribly over the years but beer prices are still good. 

[BobDobbs]

On 5/18/2018 at 6:27 PM, sydneyjohn57 said:

Cheers is a shadow of its former self although is still one of the alfresco type bars that I visit each trip. It was the first alfresco in PBurgos with previous names of Vila Bar and before that Matrix. The service has declined terribly over the years but beer prices are still good. 

Indeed service is shit but almost every bar I've gone to here the wait staff just sit on their phones ignoring everyone so I assume that's normal these days.

 

[36O]

[360, regardless of what the forum software tells you  :)] 

Good posts. Everything you describe is just the way I remember it. That's why I never went back. But that's what my brother thinks of Pattaya so I guess each to their own. I've been here for a good number of years and I have no illusions regarding the thais and pattaya in specific but in my opinion it's by far better than manila. You couldn't pay me to visit Manila again.

[BobDobbs]

On 5/23/2018 at 9:25 PM, 6864_1462980543 said:

[360, regardless of what the forum software tells you  :)] 

Good posts. Everything you describe is just the way I remember it. That's why I never went back. But that's what my brother thinks of Pattaya so I guess each to their own. I've been here for a good number of years and I have no illusions regarding the thais and pattaya in specific but in my opinion it's by far better than manila. You couldn't pay me to visit Manila again.

Goes from developed to extreme third world pretty quick. I don't want to fearmonger but my last two days on P.Burgos were a crime fest as I stupidly decided to prance down the street going for breakfast at 6am (anybody else there, go to the Filling Station, the 1950s themed restaurant above cafe cubana with same menu if that early and they have a smoking section if interested). Twice I was swarmed pick pocketed with a dozen junkies and kids all trying to get in my pockets until the security guy beat them off with a baton (glad I tipped the Cafe Cubana security all those times). I also caught a robbery setup, some woman with kids who begs foreigners until they pull out wallet and give 20p to go away, who then turns around and signals three young 20s looking street guys where the wallet is who follow the foreigner. I don't give shit to high pressure beggars so only saw this happen to other people. Told security and their response is only 'yes, those are bad boys'...?? In my country bouncers would beat you senseless if you hung around front of their bar stealing.

Be aware this was 630am and nobody should be out at that time I was basically lucky I didn't get jacked. 5:00am most of the bars close and you should gtfo the street until at least 7:30am.