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5 Years Later - A Retired Mongers View

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Five years ago, I embarked on my first tour of Thailand, after having used the advice from the guys on this site to walk me through several trips to Cambodia and the Philippines the year before.  I am returning to LOS on November 26, but I will have a fresh perspective and wondering what I will think. First, as per my wont, I will be traveling with a companion.  I have discovered in Southern California that if you are willing to cross the line,  and chase femmeboys, there is an untold number of prospects right in Sunny Southern California.  This transition to femmeboys and not engaging in P$P, may revoke my monger card., but I hope I still have some credibility on this site.  That being said on this trip,  I will be traveling with my favorite Femmeboy/CD girl  to Thailand.  I actually have found that having a trusted travel companion really works for me.

This will be a short trip, 3 days in BKK, 2 in Patts, and 5 on one of the Islands.  Will book the island trip after arrival in BKK based on weather conditions in the region.

I look forward to hanging out at Nana Plaza, and Soi Cowboy again while smoking a Cohiba sitting and watching the action on display.  I was in BKK in May, and had quite a fun conversation over a Cohiba Robusto with a young german guy who was a little agitated that his girl had to work the bar that night, and wouldn't be available for him until after the bar closed.   Ahhhh....the joys of falling for a bar girl...

My first trip to Thailand, I found the P$P scene and girls very different from what i experienced stateside.  The girls really specialized in the girlfriend experience, and seemed to want to just hang out with me.  In the US, my experience with P$P girls was if a "session" was advertised as one hour, I would be lucky to get 45 minutes, and once I reached orgasm, they expected me to pull up my pants, wash my hands, and walk out the door.  My experience with the few Thai LB's I played with was the exact opposite.  I basically had to send them away, otherwise they seemed perfectly content to hang out with me for as long as I wanted. 

Similarly, in my experience in the Philippines, most of the girls who responded to my ads on LadyboyKisses.com, Pinaylove.com, and planetromeo.com (Are those sites still up?), didn't want anything more than cab fare, and would hang with me as long as I liked.  It really changed my perspective on the whole Ladyboy scene in the USA, and I understood why so many of us decide to abandon chasing TGirls in the US, and save their money and travel to SouthEast Asia or points beyond.

So now I'm curious how I will see Pattaya City when I return.  On my first trip, while I road on the connecting flight from Seoul to BKK,  an expat related a story to me, that I couldn't wrap my head around at first.  He stated that in the Pattaya province, the local government contracted with three (3) companies whose sole job was to travel around scooping up dead foreigners (farang) who had died while on holiday. I didn't understand this at all, until on my first night in Patts, I walked out of the Marine Disco at 4:45 am, and saw a 75+ year old farang (who actually looked over 80) stumbling down the street, drunk.  I then understood....I then understood.

So, I'm wondering what my perspective will be on this trip. Will my femmeboy and I just hole up in our hotels, and hire ladyboys all day, or will we visit the traditional tourist spots and spend our money buying fake brand name clothes.  Only time will tell.

 

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Yes, I'm really curious myself!

I can relate to your story because my wife - whom I met here in the USA after my 4th or 5th annual trip to LOS - is trans, but she's originally from Mexico and was brought to the USA as a child. Nonetheless, her attitudes are SOOOO different from any of the U.S.-born GG's that I've ever dated/shacked up with/made long-term plans with that I have sworn off EVER dating another American woman if things eventually crater with my Mexican ts. Did I mention she's now my wife?  LOL

Even though i'm VERY happily married (which in and of itself is still nearly impossible for me to believe!) I still remember my times in LOS with great fondness, and have even considered sneaking into he kingdom for a few days when I do my (now annual) 2 week trip to Tokyo every Oct/November. 

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Great read Randi! :drinks:

For an island, you might consider Koh Samet as you won't have to book a flight. It takes only 90 minutes by car to get from Pattaya to the ferry pier in Ban Phe with taxis charging around 800 baht.

I see you already have a crew if you choose to enter America's  Cup. Filapinas?

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Graet read, Randi.

Man, I have tried to find femboys to shag here in SoCal and have had no luck. Perhaps was looking in the wrong places. Have gotten almost nothing from Craigslist or Grndr. 

Yeah, my experiences in both Thailand and the PI have pretty much spoiled me from even thinking about going after a gg or trans girl here in the US. Not interested at all. 

Met a sweet little cutie when I was in the PI this last June. Have kept in touch with her. May go back and visit her again. Wa even thinking about seeing if I might be able to bring here here to the US.

Best of luck with your travels.

Cheers

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Awesome. I look forward to your perspective after beingh away and how things of changed. Personally I think the scene overall is better but Nana Plaza is worse.  I reckon you are transit about now. Safe landings and have a great trip.

 

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All set and I have packed the vitals...3 pair shorts, 3 shirts,  swim trunks, snorkel, mask, and flip flops.  Anything else i can buy on the ground for less than in California.  Flying the peoples airline, China Southern on a super super discount fare of $460 roundtrip from LAX to BKK, so naturally the online check-in doesn't work.  I expect to fly with passengers carrying on chickens and goats, but hey at that price, I will suffer through.

Starting to get amped and looking forward to getting back to Ladyboy central.

 

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Happy New Year to all my friends at Ladyboy Review.  PDoggg you have been doing a great job keeping this site going as an information resource for people interested in the international ladyboy scene.  I am forever indebted to you for this site which I used to walk me through my first trip to SouthEast Asia, and which opened up my mind to a whole new way to view the ladyboy scene.

I promised a trip report from my post Thanksgiving 2017 trip to Thailand and to share my view after 5 years of adventuring.  I have been very hesitant to share my ruminations on Thailand for fear of offending members of this board, but I will state my perspective and pray that each of you accepts it as the reflections of someone who is, or at least was,  "one of us".

First, my trip was short, just 10 days on the ground in Bangkok, Pattaya, and Koh Samet.  My actual purpose was to escort one of my Trans friends who hosts a regular sex party in California to explore the possibility of an international sex party/tour for western Transgirls/CD's and their admirers in Thailand.  We had a nice meeting with the owners of the gay hotel in Patts.  However, the logistics, financial risk, and fact that yours truly doesn't want to be a tour guide for 40 needy Trans/CD girls and their admirers, will probably put the kabosh on the idea.

I actually did not hook up with any Transgirls for the whole 10 days. i did have a great time dancing at the gay disco in Bangkok called DJ Station, enjoy a few drinks at a couple of ladyboy go-go's in Pattaya, and had a great time chillin' on Koh Samet, and dancing on Full Moon night at the Silver Sand's bar/disco. 

I now see the ladyboy scene in Thailand as EXACTLY the same as the genetic girl scene in Philippines and Thailand. I used to give myself and others a pass that the only reason I had to go to Thailand and Philippines to meet ladyboys was because there just were not enough here in the US.  But guys who went to genetic girls was just doing it because they didn't have the juice to pull pretty young genetic girls in the States.  I am now of the opinion it is really the same for ladyboys.  

After my first trips to Asia, and a subsequent failed attempt to bring one of my favorite ladyboys to the states, I decided to make an effort to explore with no reservations the scene stateside, and opened my mind to femmeboys/cds without breast implants. (On one trip to philippines I travelled with a young ladyboy on hormones, but no breast implants, and broke the ice on that issue).  I discovered there are many pretty, cute, and horny as fuck young femmes right in southern california, especially asian and latin. However, I also discovered being either recent immigrants, or second generations to the USA, they had adopted US money values, and knew the difference between living in Gardena, California vs Santa Monica, California.  Like everyone, they wanted a little more. In the Philippines, one of my favorite ladyboys was happy if I would send her $50 a month in support to help her out (I'm sure she had a few other guys sending gifts, but hey, it is a "ladyboy career")  However, in the US, a girl you would support would need $1,500 for an apartment.  Now, most femmes in the US  don't expect 100% support, but just like genetic girls, they do expect a guy to have resources to show them a good time, and if an emergency hits, maybe help out in a pinch.  Similarly, on the P4P scene, it is difficult to get a pretty TS escort for less than $150, and many elite girls in Southern, California are now in the $400 a session range (I hear rumor $500 dates are not uncommon now). I guess the 1% are doing well under Trump.  

I really didn't like Pattaya this go around.  I did have a wonderful time dancing with my travelling companion at Insomnia Disco on Walking Street, but I literally felt like I was at a Lawrence Welk retirement home when I ventured to Dontang Beach. There is nothing wrong with older people enjoying the sun, and one day I will be old and out of shape, but since I'm not, it was totally unappetizing and literally made me feel bad about myself.  Why was I hanging out on this beach, and I could tell my traveling companion (with whom I have traveled to several nice beach resorts) was wondering as well.  However, we did have a mission...organizing a tour for girls who were dreaming/fantasizing about a Thailand adventure.

And that is my final analysis....Thailand as a sexual paradise is just a FANTASY in the mind.  Just like the facades of Las Vegas beckons gamblers with dreams of striking it big at Roulette, Thailand is a facade of sexual adventure and freedom which fails to deliver its promise in the long run unless one accepts that all you can do is limit your losses since the house will always win. On my return to Bangkok, I stayed on the Dusit Thani Hotel in Silom.  My last night I decided to walk to Patpong Night market to say one last goodbye to the redlight districts.  As I walked I turned down a street with more flashing neons signs than Times Square New York. Each sign was for a Karaoke bar, and in front of each 5 story mini mall of Karaoke bars were rows and rows of pretty asian girls.  But I noticed something strange. In every other sex district, the girls and hockers would accost me nonstop, but here I was absolutely ignored, and not a single girl made eye contact. I think I wouldn't have noticed, since I prefer ladyboys, and i could see these were all genetic girls except a local tout/hocker did accost and let me know, that this district was strickly for Asian customers, and the girls would not approach any non-asian clients.  Apparently, the Korean or Japanese who frequented this street would refuse to hire any girl who was with someone non-asian.  So there you have it...segregated commercial sex. It's just business as a friend would say.

All that being said, I love Thailand:  the alleys of Chinatown, the beautiful temples, the Chao Praya River, the beautiful waters off the shores of the Islands, and the incredible street food.  I will return, but not to monger or look for sex play, but just to enjoy the culture and sites. There is actually more and better sex play in California, albeit at a higher price, but I'm prepared to pay that price, and I guess I'm fortunate to be in a situation to do so.

Anyway, I hope each of you enjoy your adventures, and I will continue to follow you all on her,d and live vicariously through your stories.

Now, maybe Brazil!

All the best

Randi Uno

 

 

 

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as an addendum, I just spent 8 months in Thailand (couple weeks in Cambodia and P.I. too), much of it in Issan and have to say using Thai Friendly and LINE worked out much better for me than bars or cruising streets.  Sex there is still a blast and here? well, the cost is prohibitive to the least.  And I"m in the boonies a bit, in the Deep South, so forget just meeting them. And since CL shut down ya ain't gettin any. 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       

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On 7/10/2018 at 12:47 AM, JustSumGai said:

. And since CL shut down ya ain't gettin any. 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                       

Yes, the American Taliban is attacking all things sexual and definitely all things Transgender (ladyboy) in the US.  So, I guess those who are interested in ladyboys, and are willing to allow the American Taliban to essentially erase Trans from official existence in the USA, then Thailand and Southeast Asia will forever be the destination.

 

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well, it's prostitution, they don't care about ladyboys, hell, in my area was'nt but about six on there regular, and another dozen of so that obviously traveled a regular route. Shame the Mexicans or carribeans can't get it together.  Imagine hot Puerto Rican ladyboys, mmm.  Catholic country, they're still killing trans ppl there. Mexico? COULD be some good spots but basically I think you're right and as long as Thailand has so many on offer no one is going to compete.  But then you have the junta. Eh, soon we will expire and no worries.  Until then fly on :)

 

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