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Pulci Gorgon

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Since I don't want to fuck QueenJessica's thread, I prefer to create a new one to answer Zeppie's question and complete Bumblebee's answer. 

I've  sometimes had a look at the Indonesian scene for a few years, but I seriously did it in 2021 as I was searching twitter looking for Chinese ladyboys. Twitter would sometimes propose me warias in the window "you might like" and I started exploring warias. I used it to find a few more videos since I had also found waria videos at xnxx.com and I posted the whole in a thread myclub's video subforum.  I also started collecting twitter adresses as I did for Chinese ladyboys but I created no blog for one reason : after a month or so, many twitter accounts had vanished, so I just estimated that twitter accounts provided no stable source of information. I was also too busy to have time to follow warias in details. 
After my trip in Vietnam, I felt like forgetting Vietnamese ladyboys and started watching again Indonesian Twitters accounts. I deleted many links from my files and started adding new ones (Meanwhile, only 2 Chinese ladyboys Twitter accounts vanished from the web). I also found a few webpages dealing with the Indonesian subject. Sorry for this long preamble, but this explains how I searched the web for a little bit of information. 

Bumblebee's right when he says that ladyboys are mainly found in Jakarta and Bali, but teh answer ismore subtle than that. This morning, I had a sample of 181 Indonesian transgenders in my files (I added a few ones in the afternoon). About 60 of them (one third) declare to live in Jakarta, around 35 in Bandung and around 35 in Surabaya. If I add ladyboys in satellite cities around Jakarta (Tangerang, Depok, Kapuk, Bekasi ...), I have a lot more ladyboys in the area of Jakarta. But I can also find more ladyboys around Bandung, between Bandung and Jakarta and around Surabaya. 

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A waria in Bandung

 

I didn't find many ladyboys living in Bali when searching in Twitter. But having read a few webpages about Bali, the island is mainly reputed for its luxury resorts and the ladyboy scene in Denpasar. Don't be fooled and don't look for ladyboys out of Denpasar. You would waste your time. A few Denpasar streets look like a small Pattaya or Patong. 

I also found 12 ladyboys in Sumatra, most of whom in Medan. Sumatra is reputed for chasing ladyboys in the name of the Charia, the islamic law. Ladyboys are brought to public places and their hair is cut in front of a public audience. 

There also exists ladyboys in Borneo (West Kalimantan and East Kalimantan : 6 ladyboys). I also found 8 ladyboys in Sulawesi in Makassar, Biringkanaya, Kendari, Bintung and Manado. Last one : I found one ladyboy in West Papua-New Guinea. 

I just found a few ladyboys in Yogyakarta. The city is reputed for the p4p scene though. The Indonesian Police cracked down RLDs  (warning : edited). I didn't find recent information on the subject nor on Yogyakarta. 

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15 hours ago, Zeppie said:

Nice input PG......kind of a Do/Don't input.  You indicate Yogyakarta as the RLD main hub, with neighborhood full of LB's, but you don't seem to suggest it.  Can you help with my confusion and what is your recommendations. Thanks.

After checking again, I must edit the post. I also edited the OP. 

Dolly is in Surabaya, not in Yogyakarta. Sorry, I haven't checed again and confused. 

I believe I remembered there were many warias in Yogyakarta. If this is true, I had found the information a few years ago. I may have confused with another city. Since I believed there were many ladyboys in Yogyakarta, I just commented that I was surprised not to see so many in Twitter. I need to search the web to find out more information about Yogyakarta. 

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Next post to deal with ladyboys in Indonesia. Before I post pics, I would like to mention one word : "bo". The police cracked down many placed between 2014 and 2016 and many prostitutes were sent to reeducation centers to be kept away from p4p. Other girls (GGs or ladyboys) came back or used internet and social networks. But in order to complete crackdowns, the Indonesian governments or police asked twitter and other social networks to censor accounts promoting p4p. So (girls and) ladyboys started using the word "bo" to bypass government censors. 

 

Here the pics. 

 

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Here's the most beautifull I found. Everybody will recognise Jessica Wijaya who visited us a couple of days ago. Jessica had 3 Twitter profiles. One was suspended and the other 2 are restricted (partially censored. I haven't found a prettier waria in Indonesia so far. 

 

 

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This other waria appeared as mysterious. She has no name, no WA number, no address (she gives many locations around Jakarta, in Bandung and even in Timor Leste). She defined herself as "just an alter ego, illusion, and shapeshifter".She's looking for sponsors through 2 social networks that are more or less Indonesian versions of onlyfans. 

 

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The above looks like  the Gina Lolo Ferrari version of warias in Jakarta. Based in a neighbourhood of Bekassi (East of East Jakarta, she also accepts outcalls. 

 

 

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This great looking shemale Aline is a typical exemple of a beautifull Indonesian shemale. She's well hung, dressed with class and most of her photos and short videos were shot in 5 stars palaces. One more detail : she's top only, so get prepared. You probably noticed her big ass in spite of her remaining (fairly) slim. 

 

Except these 4 best looking warias, Warias often look different from ladyboys we see in other Asian countries. If you look at it carefully, warias start having fats at a fairly young age. I saw many cute faces but, once the video or a pic shows a body, I can see a fat ass, a fat manly belly and wide shoulders. Femboys sometimes use fat at the level of their chest to press it at both side and make believe they have a big breast on a pic. Here are a few fat warias. 

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Fat belly blond waria

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Not very slim either

 

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Fat boobs - her ass must be huge

 

 

Angel face with fat body and ass

 

 

In VN, I had see only one so fat ladyboy. In Indonesia, they are legion. 

 

Last, but not least, waria and crossdressers wearing a hijab. 
I used the word transgender when speaking of Indonesian ladyboys. Either, they are femboys or ladyboys, they name themselves "waria" or even"shemale". I also found somewhere that very few Indonesian ladyboys have SRS. So they don't want to change their body. They were born with a cok, they want to live with a cock. Otherwise, they will also play with their cock : like many ladyboys in other countries, they can top or be versatile (but I don't remember I read teh word versatile, they'd rather write "top/bot"). 

There seems to be many warias who are just crossdressers. I imagine they have a double life : nice boy with their family and pretty hot slut with male dates. I saw plenty of dirty short videos in Twitter. 

 

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Moreover, many warias also wear a hijab (islamic veil). The same waria can post 9 pics in normal dress, short skirts, slutwears, naked, then a pic with a hijab. I found exciting to see these sluts sucking a cock dressed in a hijab, or taking off their dress to be fucked and keep their hijab. 

 

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The second ladyboy here above (prettiest after  Jessica) posted this pic with a hijab to wish a happy Muslim celebration. She ad posted an even prettier pic with a long skirt and a hijab in which she had a lot of class. Warias are not disturbed to mix religious signs and slutty  wears in their clothes. 

 

Crossdressers are even funnier imho. As above mentionned, they seem to have a double life. They also seem to wear hijabs to test their social life in female wears. Then they make their face, then they will try to wear Western female clthes later, but they already wear slut pants under their Muslim dress. 

 

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The above crossdresser from Bandung looks like a wise muslim girl. She doesn't look like a stunner but her Twitter account looks like a porn site in whgich she performs in every video. She does enjoy to be shagged. 

 

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This crossdresser doesn't even have long hair. This twink uses his hijab to transform into a sluuty girl in just a minute. 

 

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Last but not least. I criticized Sumatra since there seems fewer ladyboys. However, I couldn't resist posting 3 pics from this waria living in Medan. I guess I will never go to this city, but she deserves respect given the conditions where she lives. 

 

Keywords you can use :
waria : you will find an Indonesia ladyboy, seldom a maysian one. 
bo : p4p I saw that "bohai" is sometimes used. 
Cder : acronym for crossdresser in Indonesia? You will find a waria crossdresser every time you use this acronym. 

In Java (Jawa), if you use the above properly, the input a city/province/district  name, you can make sure you will see a waria account. 

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On 2/20/2023 at 11:17 PM, Pulci Gorgon said:

Here's the most beautifull I found. Everybody will recognise Jessica Wijaya who visited us a couple of days ago. Jessica had 3 Twitter profiles. One was suspended and the other 2 are restricted (partially censored. I haven't found a prettier waria in Indonesia so far. 

That look seems to be a local one, this girl looks kinda similar Yoana Putri #shemalesurabaya 

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23 hours ago, bumblebee said:

Another Twitter girl with that similar look, and it’s a great look.  A sorta 50s movie star look to some extent. CLAASY MAUDY ALLISYA SHEMALE || 081218858191

@ShemaleShema1
 

I've just added her in my list, "Jakarta ****" (4 stars). only one wari is rated 5 stars (Jessica). I started sorting warias by rates (from 2 to 5 stars) and categories (waria-shemale-TS vs Cder. I eventually created no category as Hijab waria or crossdresser. 

Yoana Putri was already in the list Surabaya ****. But she's not really interesting. Although she posted her WA number, she aims at selling video calls, not meeting clients. 

 

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Great profile. I had her in Bandung and Semarang. She seems to be in Jaksel (Jakarta) now. 

 

Here is the prettiest profile I found in Sumatra. @ZilqiNatllen

 

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Ladyboys are rare in Sumatra. Islamic laws are sometimes enforced in Sumatra provinces. Ladyboys are brought to a public place and shaved by police officers under the crowd's gibes, so they are very discreet. There seems to be a small community in Medan though. 

 

 

Zilqi looks so cute that I doubted she's a ladyboy. Anyone got a clue ? 

 

 

 

 

PS :biggrin:

 

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As I messed it up with RLD, I looked for more information dealing with the subject. There used to be large RLDs in Indonesian cities but the government decided to shut down red light districts all over the country. 

In Surabaya, "Dolly" (the popular red-light district Gang Dolly) was shut down in June 2014. It was reputed as the largest RLD in South East Asia. Bars, karaoke and other businesses had to close (read here). Ladyboys still freelance in a cemetery called Kembang Kuning. More details in Coconuts.co

In Jakarta, the largest RLD was in Kalijodo (also called KCD as Kalijodo fucking center). That was a dull area sometimes described by mongers as a "slum", "infamous" or "unsafe". The police asked people to leave the area then the whole shanty town was bullozed in February 2016. 

More details :
Kalijodo as it was before crack down
destruction of Kalijodo

Kalijodo now

 

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The question remaining, is it worth it?  Seem more enforcement by federal and local authorities.  Are the cost comparative, i.e., p4p, hotels, transportation, food, etc.  Whats the attitude, GFE or pure business and clock watchers?  I now its very dependent, but what's the typical expectations, as compared to TH.

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It's better to know what you're getting into and be familiar with the scene before you decide to go. So far, I'm not counting pros and cons, I'm just digging the web to find informations. As for Vietnam, I keep informations confidential since I don't know whether they are reliable or not. 
Make your own search. 

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Since last week, I have been feeling somewhat discouraged to continue my research. I have been able to identify over 350 warias and have found a few interesting articles on the Indonesian scene(s). It takes finding the right perspective to truly understand how things work. For instance, there is no single law that applies throughout the country, but rather, law enforcement is delegated to the provinces. It is common to read about waria persecution in Sumatra, but the island has several provinces, and Aceh province, for example, enforces Sharia law, making it a hostile environment for warias, while the province of Medan has an interesting ladyboys community.

 

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Additionally, warias can be found in many cities in Java, particularly in the largest one, Jakarta. The police crackdowns are  being carried out more smoothly, and lawsuits are being filed based on legal grounds that differ from province to province.
Unfortunately, I have not received any responses to my contact requests in Java (except for one negative response asking me not to bother them). I don't want to exhaust my contact list.

I have finally received two price offers (one in Jakarta and one in Makassar, Sulawesi): LT at 3 million Rupiahs (equivalent to 6,800 baht) and ST at 1.5 million Rupiahs (equivalent to 3,400 baht, and in some cases, there are additional down payments required to cover taxi or hotel expenses).

Warias can be found throughout most of the western part of the country (From Central Sumatra to Bali, rarely in West Papua, in Balipapan (3 provinces of Borneo and Sulawesi). I could share my list of Twitter accounts in a discrete way if someone is willing to take over and delve deeper into the topic. However, I would probably do this through an unpolished blog to avoid exploitation by PY."

Despite police crackdowns, warias can still be found on the streets at night, particularly in Jakarta. I even came across what seems to be a brothel in a hotel where warias (or gays) had worked, although I am uncertain about the document's date. Those warias still working on the streets are mostly aging and unappealing.

 

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On 2/20/2023 at 3:24 AM, Pulci Gorgon said:

Bali

I would recommend Bali as the destination of choice for the first time Indonesian monger.  Sex workers from all over Indonesia go to Bali to find customers.  Bali is safe; a good place to learn the ropes.

The ladyboy street action is on Dhyana Pura (officially known as Jalan Camplung Tanduk), a gay street in Seminyak.   The Kuta-Legian-Seminyak area is quite popular with Aussies.  Many extremely late night clubs.

Went their three times from 2005-2009.  Good food, good vibe. Back then if you knew what you were doing you could have sex for 300,000 rupiah. I'm sure asking prices are quite a bit higher now.

I met a few nice ladyboys. My favorite was from Sulawesi.  A friend met one of the street from Sumatra and brought her back to Thailand and they lived together for a few years.

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The ladyboy scene seems to be fairly restricted in Bali. My search is likely to be biased since I used Twitter, but I have found only 14 warias in Bali, while I found 20 in Medan, 106 in Jakarta and close surburbs (not included satelite cities around Jakarta). 

I had also found informations about prices at 300,000 rupiah ba few years before covid but can't confirm the price since I was told only 1.5 million for ST. It seems that waria prefer LT (3 million). I might really surprised by such prices increases. It reminds me of Vietnam but worse. My feeling is that waria don't trust or avoid contacts with foreigners and the few who do quote high prices. 

Last but not least, I omitted to mention airfare prices. These are 21 to 40 % higher when flying to Medan (Reaching Kuala Lumpur then reaching Medan with Air Asia) rather than Bangkok. Going to Jakarta costs about 25 % more and to Denpasar (Bali) 62 to 68 % more. I think that Bali can be a great destination for Aussies and New Zealanders, and maybe for expats living in Asia, but I can't find advantages for myself.  
Maybe, when I am older and have time to stay longer than a month, I will go and visit Indonesia and stay in Sulawesi without looking for warias. Sulawesi seems to be full of great beach hotels à 15 $ a night (perhaps with food included) and prices went down after covid. 

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