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I had the chance to check out the lb go-go bars in NEP and Soi Cowboy,

The usual no photo policy is still being enforced for the go go bars, and likely the genetic girl bars as well.

First off bad news for the lb lover regarding Nana Plaza.

There is only one pre-op lb bar left in Nana Plaza - that is Obsession. The rest are all closed/taken over and converted to new gg bars.

Obsession had about 25-30 lbs on the 2 nights I visited. The customer count was higher on the 2nd night (Sunday around 9:30 pm). I would say there are not many "femboys" in Obsession - most of the lbs had silicone enhanced breasts. There has also been a shift - very few "Amazonian" tall lbs now. Most of the staff were around 170 cm (about 5 ft 6 inches), and a few petite ones around 160-165 cm (5'2" to 5'3"). Some real beauties on staff. While they asked for drinks it wasn't very "pushy". Drinks have gone up, and while I don't drink alcohol - the cola price was 160 Baht up from 120 Baht pre-Covid, and I'm sure the beer/whiskey prices are up as well.

For the postop lover and in general those who like very beautiful/model type ladies, Straps is open again. They have about 25 beautiful post-op lbs on staff. Some of them were in the top 30 of previous Miss Tiffany contests. However, the atmosphere at Straps is quite mercenary, and while I didn't bar fine anyone, rates are higher. One thing I think has changed is no longer insistence in using the Nana Plaza short time rooms as I saw a customer take his chosen companion down the stairs and out the entrance - possibly to his hotel, or another short time hotel in the area.

Next up is Soi Cowboy. There are 2 lb bars here - most of you have already heard of Cockatoo. This bar had the same owner as the former Temptations and Mercury Bar in Nana Plaza.

Cockatoo Bar has about 30 preop lbs on staff, with around 20 average showing up to work each night. There were a few beauties there but not as many as Obsession. Drinks here were a bit less than Nana Plaza, but the ladies were more aggressive asking for lady drinks. The mamasan is Teresa (former mamasan of Temptations and Mercury Bar). She informed me that Obsessions was the last preop lb bar in NEP. She also informed me that DC10 was closed (I checked it twice, and while the lights were on there were no customers and no staff inside. She said some of the lbs in DC10 had a fight/major disagreement with the Nana Plaza owners and it was closed - probably now for sale/rent.

Next in Soi Cowboy is Shadow Bar. This bar also has the same owner as Cockatoo. There are about 20 preop lbs on staff, with around 15-17 showing up each night. There was a femboy working the night I visited. While there were a few lookers, they weren't as many as Cockatoo or Obsession. They were also about the same as the Cockatoo lbs asking for drinks. Something else I heard from Teresa is that the owner of Cockatoo/Shadow bar attempted to buy some space in Nana Plaza, but the owners refused his offer. It sounds like they are limiting the lb bars to one preop bar and one postop bar. Hopefully that number will not be reduced. She also informed me the King's Castle 3 (King's Corner) no longer has lbs in Patpong. I have not yet gone there to confirm, but will later.

I think the lounge bars may be the best action for lbs in Bangkok - Checkin Bar, Chaos 9, Cindy's Secrets (yes the one who used to work at Cascade), and Why Not?

There are plenty of freelancers on Sukhumvit on the odd numbered Soi side from Soi Nana up to Terminal 21. They will start around 9:30 pm, with the most action 10 - 11 pm.
 

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Yes, good report. I have just returned after 10 days in the area. Did not visit Nana Plaza as was told it was not worth it and after a previous experience in Obsessions, gave it a miss. Tried out Cindy's, Why Not and lastly Check in Bar. First two were ok, but could not compare with CIB. That place was full on action, especially on Sat Night. Went there 3 times and each was worth it, with the last night being incredible action.

I have my favorites there, those being Fiat, Susi and Lily. Unfortunately Fiat gave me the word because I had taken other girls when she was not around to start with but appeared later, much to her chagrine. Dont think I will be getting any Xmas cards. The last visit when I arrived looking for her, she was in the process of giving a guy and his gf a lesson in lb behaviour.

Later I was otherwise occupied with Lily in the corner. After watching a guy next to me get groped and assaulted by at least 4 lb's who were being well watered with drinks and reciprocated by giving the guy lessons in group sex. No holds barred!. Lily asked If I would like the same treatment. What could I say?. She was helped initially by one of the bar staff who had rock hard boobs and knew how to use them.

Susi, whom I had spent the night with a few days beforehand and is one I really like, walked past laughing while Lily was down on her knees giving me the treatment.

A great night.

The talent in CIB is unreal. There were about 30 girls and 6 or 7 were the tall slim Amazonian type with fabulous figures. Maybe these are some of the ex gogo bar girls?.

When walking back to my room around 3 am the streets around Soi 11 were packed with lb's and gg's plying their trade.

A few days before I had been walking along Sukhimvit Rd and was approached by a lb asking if she could help me out. When I walked away she grabbed my dick, hard, hurtiing like hell. This was a distraction as the other hand was trying to extract my wallet from my shorts. Luclikly the pocket had a button on the flap so it was hard for her to take it. When I realized what was going on I gave her hand a karate chop. She yelled out and took off. A lesson to be street wise!.

 

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I haven't found time to reply so far. Sorry, I was too busy (I'm on holidays :sleep:)

I found your post excellent. You described very precisely the situation of ladyboys bars in Nana plaza and soi Cow Boy. I keep on reporting in local forums in my country and concise information has been missing so far. 

Thanks again for the OP. 

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2 hours ago, Zeppie said:

Thanks Rxpharm.........very informative and also disappointing at the same time.  As a collective thought how and why would NEP shrink like that.  What does it mean when NEP closed all but 1 LB bar.  Whats the future in that?

Less "big box" outlets and more "mom & pop" outlets?
I mean, it's not like there are less ladyboys out there. The thing that is more concerning to me is girls leaning into OnlyFans and cash streams like that which makes getting them at reasonable prices more challenging.

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19 hours ago, Zeppie said:

Thanks Rxpharm.........very informative and also disappointing at the same time.  As a collective thought how and why would NEP shrink like that.  What does it mean when NEP closed all but 1 LB bar.  Whats the future in that?

NEP is not shrinking, and I think it has to do with the NEP owner's view that genetic girl bars are more popular than lb bars. On my 2 trips to NEP it was clear that most of the gg bars were busier than Obsession, and Straps was about 3 times busier than Obsession (however Straps advertises as a gg bar).

Hopefully the NEP owners won't decide to shut down Obsession as well, but with the loss of the previous bars - Chili, Temptations, Mercury, DC10, Casanova and Cascade I am not too optimistic.

Another interesting observation I missed mentioning about Soi Cowboy, some of the gg bars have postop lbs touting outside - they tend to be more attractive than the gg go go staff. I noticed this with at 2 bars, so it isn't widespread yet. I am not sure if they are open to barfines, but I suppose they would go if the price is right.

With regard to lbs shifting to OnlyFans and other online sites - it is becoming more common, but I think for now most lbs are still either going applying to work at the lounge bars in BKK, or freelancing.

I would also draw your attention that Thailand is also experiencing inflation just the same as most countries in the world, so don't expect the prices to be the same as pre-covid times for the ladies, and also anything else you buy in Thailand. Despite this, prices are generally less than you would pay at home.

 

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Well based on your NEP report, it is shrinking for LB bars/Go-Go's.  Why would so many close within proximity of the same time frame.  Only 1 remaining...sounds like shrinkage to me.  They where at one time big money makes or there would not have been so many LB bars at NEP.....so what really changed.  Yeah, movement to mon & pop shops seems like a reasonable conclusion.  But, can weather a storm.  The "only fans" phenomena suggested is not a good sign.   Regardless, you get lack of supply and cost creep.  I have wondered, where if ever there would be another Thailand pop up.  I think it takes the right mix of economic and cultural factors to create another TH. 

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9 hours ago, rxpharm said:

I would also draw your attention that Thailand is also experiencing inflation just the same as most countries in the world, so don't expect the prices to be the same as pre-covid times for the ladies, and also anything else you buy in Thailand. Despite this, prices are generally less than you would pay at home.

 

Could you give us what you believe are standard prices in Thailand now ? 

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18 hours ago, Pulci Gorgon said:

Could you give us what you believe are standard prices in Thailand now ? 

From what I found, not much different to pre covid. At the 3 main lb bars, 2000b plus fine would get you most of the girls. Maybe more for the self titled superstars.

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I was quoted at cib 3000 thb , 1000 goes to the house , skinny but just enough filler in her lips lb on soi 4 wanted 1500 but she said would be gallant enough to use 300 for the room , sad looking lb no customers also on same soi 1000 thb , but bangkok is usually more then other places so , african girls always want 2000 of course , orange and blueberry muffins stay at 10 baht thank god ....

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On 12/2/2022 at 5:30 PM, rxpharm said:

NEP is not shrinking, and I think it has to do with the NEP owner's view that genetic girl bars are more popular than lb bars. On my 2 trips to NEP it was clear that most of the gg bars were busier than Obsession, and Straps was about 3 times busier than Obsession (however Straps advertises as a gg bar).

Hopefully the NEP owners won't decide to shut down Obsession as well, but with the loss of the previous bars - Chili, Temptations, Mercury, DC10, Casanova and Cascade I am not too optimistic.

Another interesting observation I missed mentioning about Soi Cowboy, some of the gg bars have postop lbs touting outside - they tend to be more attractive than the gg go go staff. I noticed this with at 2 bars, so it isn't widespread yet. I am not sure if they are open to barfines, but I suppose they would go if the price is right.

With regard to lbs shifting to OnlyFans and other online sites - it is becoming more common, but I think for now most lbs are still either going applying to work at the lounge bars in BKK, or freelancing.

I would also draw your attention that Thailand is also experiencing inflation just the same as most countries in the world, so don't expect the prices to be the same as pre-covid times for the ladies, and also anything else you buy in Thailand. Despite this, prices are generally less than you would pay at home.

 

one factor could be that GGs generally can charge more than LBs..... one factor is there is a much wider customer base for GGs.

LB Mongers are looking for that economical deal..... and even that is one reason I go with LBs..... because a stunning fox that wants to rip off my clothes and suck my cock like a pro with real passion and meaning is affordable with LBs. But I'd have to pay significantly higher to get that level of beauty and enthusiasm with GGs.

 

The super foxy Coyote bars like PIMP and LION are so over priced that it's ridiculous (easily blow $2k per person including drinks)..... but that's all I can be arsed to hit in BKK because the GG go go bars that are on par price as LBs (lets say spending $250 on a night) have GGS that have let themselves go, don't give a shit about their appearance and attitude..... are kind of just going thru the motions....and not as interested in an older guy as an LB.

so of course business owners are going to chase the bigger bucks. GG customers pay more.

I guess the short term future for us will involve a little bit of ghetto-ization in BKK.

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4 hours ago, The-Sith said:

one factor could be that GGs generally can charge more than LBs..... one factor is there is a much wider customer base for GGs.

LB Mongers are looking for that economical deal.....

Interesting take. In some places the LBs command more, but I guess in Thailand there is a greater supply.

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3 hours ago, outsider said:

Interesting take. In some places the LBs command more, but I guess in Thailand there is a greater supply.

the LBs that command more are the top talent. We all know who the super stars are. They are super beautiful and usually they are porn stars too.

 

But the top talent GGs are a multiple on that number. Paying $700, $1.5k...... up to as high as $10k.... for a night with a top talent GG is what is paid at that level. 

One of the reasons I go for LBs is because I'm attracted to them and dollar for dollar they are way better value than the girls..... in Thailand for sure.

I suggest mongers try some of the clubs I mentioned above in BKK like the PIMP to see the difference. The babes are fucking HOT! and they know how to serve. Every time there is a great time.

 

The hottest night club in Miami is e11even. Its a regular club with regular men and regular women...... plus 200 super hot strippers stripping all around a massive club and in the circle in the middle with guys "making it rain" on their ass (I.e. streaming dollar bills on their asses).

The best part is that normal women love going there and it just makes a night way wilder because you showed up with women in your group and there are hotties stripping everywhere..... plus lap dances and blow jobs in the rooms.... and you can take the girls home.

The party is so much fun and the element of adding sexy strippers who fuck makes it a next level experience.

 

 

i know one of the girls who worked at e11even and she told me the AVERAGE girl makes $1 million per year. And some clear double that at $2mill.

Let's face it......men are stupid when it comes to matters related to their dick (like all of us!).

 

 

 

 

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Update: Patpong is less than a mere shadow of its former self. More than 50% of the clubs are closed as well as the shops. About 1/2 of the street is blacked out with the closed shuttered clubs/shops. This also caused the night market to shrink and what remains is much less busy than before.

The old King's Corner (which was a mix of postop/gg's) located across from King's Garden is now split into King's Massage and King's Castle - with signs proudly stating 100% LADIES. I had a look through the door and that is likely true. No lbs in sight. I did spot a couple of lbs down a side soi parallel to Patpong - not sure what bar/club they were working at.

The former King's Corner 2 (which was directly behind King's Garden in the short side alley connecting the sois, is closed. Not even a sign of another business looking to set up there.

The remaining gg bars looked to be in dire straits with hardly any customers. If this continues it seems likely Patpong will be redeveloped into something else and the red light district will be lost.

I did check out Nana Plaza again. Obsession bar fines are 500 Baht, with 2500 Baht short time price for a lady. On the Saturday night I dropped in around 9:30 pm not many customers, only around 20-25% full. The gg bars were busy.

On the other hand Straps was packed out. I found out the bar fine there is 700 Baht, plus 3500 Baht short time for a lady - (using the NEP short time rooms). If you take her back to your hotel it is 4000  Baht short time. Again a lot of model types there. While you may not like postop lbs, it is a good place to check out the eye candy and remember that they were pre-op before. Head and shoulders more gorgeous than all the gg staff in the NEP gg bars.

I would have to say this does not look good for lb go go bars. It seems to me that the lounge bars and freelancers will be where most of the p4p lbs will be found in the future.

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