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. . . .and also they want ex-pats to help the tourist industry. Good job 'Big Joke' didn't get rid of us. ! Not for the want of trying. ! https://forum.thaivisa.com/topic/1176098-expats-sought-to-help-thailand’s-tourism-industry-in-its-hour-of-need-end-to-dual-pricing-mooted/?utm_source=newsletter-20200804-1306&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=news

conspiracy theorists don't need actual evidence Ozzie

"Einstein disguised as Robin Hood, with his memories in a trunk, passed this way an hour ago, with his friend a jealous Monk. you would not think, to look at him, but he was famous long ago, for playing the electric violin on Desolation Row ". Desolation Row. Bob Dylan.

The theory that China manufactured COVID 19 is a widely circulating conspiracy theory. One thing that the propagators of this theory cannot explain is if the whole world is brought to economic ruin - then so is China's economy. What is the point of making this "bio-weapon" if it disrupts their own economy too? Yes, China was late in reporting that COVID 19 is able to spread human - to human by around a month or so. Yes, they did try to suppress the information at the early stages as the higher levels of bureaucracy tried to save "face", but going on to say this was a deliberate bio-weapon is a leap too far, particularly when scientists from so many different countries have come to the conclusion it is not man made.

Coronavirus did come from bats, say WHO scientists sent to Wuhan https://www.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-bats-wuhan-world-health-organization-112507142.html August 4, 2020, 1:25 PM The coronavirus outbreak came from bats and was probably passed to humans through another intermediary animal "host", World Health Organization (WHO) scientists have concluded. The team of WHO experts visited the city of Wuhan, understood to be the epicentre of the COVID-19 pandemic, to probe the origins of the virus and how it spread across the world. Scientists believe the virus jumped from animals to humans at a “wet market” in Wuhan. Rxpharm, what is your opinion on where ( country) Covid-19 originated from? Would be interesting to know.

MELBOURNE (Reuters) - Australia's second-biggest city, Melbourne, already under night curfew, announced fresh restrictions on industries including retail and construction on Monday in a bid to contain a resurgence of the coronavirus. From Wednesday night, Melbourne, the capital of Victoria state, will close retail, some manufacturing and administrative businesses as part of a six-week lockdown. Having already imposed the strictest restrictions on movement, Victoria declared a "state of disaster" on Sunday.

First, there are levels of virology labs. Level 4 being the highest rated. With the security and safeguards to handle the most leathel pathogens. Like the deadliest coronaviruses or bioweapons. There are 2 such labs in Japan, 1 in Korea, 1 in Canada, and some in other countries too. China has one Level 4 lab. You guessed it. Its in Wuhan. Built originally by Chinese and French engineers until French engineers were kicked off the project and replaced by local contractors in China....which the French said were using medevil engineering techniques and were constructing something dangerous. That level 4 lab was opened in 2017. You have to ask yourself right there......if US had only one Level 4 lab.....in its 10th or 11th largest city.....lets say Austin and the virus started there, at LEAST you have to make the lab a suspected source. I mean....if thats the center of your most lethal virology lab in your country that JUST opened up, you have to investigate. If you are being honest and reasonable. Wuhan is barley known to the world before this....a 10th rate city in China that happens to have the only level 4 lab in the entire nation and JUST happens to also be the center of the virus. There is another lab near by. Its level 3. The level 3 and level 4 labs in Wuhan are at the world center for studying bat coronaviruses. This is well documented. The lead scientist in this area is well know "Bat Lady" who has published and presented on this area. Shi Zhenli. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shi_Zhengli?wprov=sfla1 One of her main areas of research is how S Protiens can make coronaviruses more infectious for human to human transmission through ACE2 receptors. This turns out is the main method of infection of covid. Covid structurally has properties of the 2003 SARS virus with s proteins added to the ssequence. Hence the dramtic rise in infectiousness of this strain. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5389864/ This is an older paper with her research and she presented publicly on this many times too, as well as a wide range covering bat coronaviruses. The fable that this virus comes from a wet market is bullshit. First, the Wuhan markets do not sell bats. Second, Chinese scientists proved that the earliest cases in Wuhan had nothing to do with the wet market. They published their report until it was removed and those scientists punished by the government. I guess with the analogy i used early of Austin being the source of the virus..... you can make up some stories of it being from a bat cave or a chicken farm or something in Austin, but if the scientists at the (hypothetical) only level 4 lab in the US were working on the EXACT virus and the EXACT terrible properties of having the proteins to make it highly infectious..... an intelligent person would have to ask the serious questions at that point, right? "Could this have come from the lab"? Especially if Austin was the mecca for bat coronavirus research, the only level 4 lab in America and the virus started there. I mean, at least question it. Well, the CCP gave their Poker Tell when in mid February, they announced new fast tracked laws for the tightened secrutiy of virology labs in China for preventing leaks. A curious move if this came from a wet market. Why fast track something like that at such a early point of the situation. Then they sent a top army general to secure the lab. Perhaps to stop leaks and destroy evidence. Which this WHO investigation group is not allowed to visit for their investigation into the origins of the virus. Thats pretty much another tell right there. If you have nothing to hide, why block investigations? There were two documented leaks of the SARS virus from Chinese labs in the past. Is it beyond the realm of possibility that this could be the same thing? An accidental leak? The State Department is on the record for sending cabels from the consulate in Wuhan after a visit to the labs back in 2018/19 that they were deeply concerened for the low safety standrads at the labs and the possibility of a leak. But of course, we know China pays high attention to safety standards and is a high degree of transparency so an accidental leak like this could never happen, and even it did, they would never try to cover it up by blaming it on some dudes eating bat soup for lunch! The sequencing of the virus itself has, from my understanding, properties of the additional S Protiens (which increase infectious transmission) and HIV (which attack the immune system), and is based on earlier 2003 SARS virus (which was also originally from bats). I am not a scientist and so this is just based on my readings. Yet these point to engineering of the virus from earlier 2003 SARS virus. If you want to read....here are a couple of articles and there are many more. First i post some videos. You should take the time to watch at least one of these. I meam, your entire world is being impacted by this event..... you might as well take some time to investigate how it happened. Because if its true this did accidentally leak from a lab....and even worse, is a bioweapon, then what stops the CCP from committing another ultra negligent crime again in the future that impacts us all. This is China's Chernobyl. Yet this time the entire planet....the businesses....the schools....hospitals....churches.....sports events, etc....are all radiated. ..take a look now.... https://thebulletin.org/2020/06/did-the-sars-cov-2-virus-arise-from-a-bat-coronavirus-research-program-in-a-chinese-laboratory-very-possibly/ https://project-evidence.github.io/ And if you really want to know how fucked this is......here are articles from 2019 (before the virus) about how a Chinese Canadian scientists at Canada's only level 4 lab (which is in Winnipeg) was busted with her husband (also a scientist there) and Chinese interns smuggling highly leathel samples of viruses back to Wuhan last year. CBC article: .https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/manitoba/national-microbiology-lab-scientist-investigation-china-1.5307424 https://www.the-scientist.com/news-opinion/questions-surround-canadian-shipment-of-deadly-viruses-to-china-66254 And to answer RxPharms question (a lad who lives close to the scene of the Winnipeg theft)....China didnt purposefully leak it. It was an accident. No country....not Chinese or American would release this on purpose during this time. Maybe in other circumstances.....but definitely not this time. Too much to lose. It was an accident. But after millions of deaths (maybe tens of millions over nex few years)? Trillions of dollars lost......who is going to pay for that accident???

I don't know her either but she sure is cute

Powder is ready for a ride :-P

What say you, QG? Good Covid-19 News From Italy...and Sweden https://www.yahoo.com/news/good-covid-19-news-italy-053810746.html (Bloomberg Opinion) -- The lifting of Covid-19 lockdowns around the world was never going to be easy. But as infections are flaring up from Spain to Australia, it’s worth noting that two of the hardest-hit countries at the pandemic’s peak — Italy and Sweden — are keeping the virus’s spread under control. Daily confirmed cases in both nations are now averaging at around 200 each, well below their respective peaks, with no rebound in sight and no strain on hospitals. By contrast, the daily case count in Spain rose past 2,000 last week and France’s surpassed 1,000. This is by no means a second wave, but it’s worth asking what Italy and Sweden might be doing differently to manage the virus. These countries once stood out for the wrong reasons. Italy was the first European country hit by a Covid-19 surge and the first to impose a draconian lockdown. Sweden took a more liberal and controversial approach — at odds even with other Nordic countries — that kept schools open and broadly stuck to recommendations on social distancing and self-isolation rather than forced quarantine. While Italy’s lockdown arguably saved lives, it came late. Sweden’s, meanwhile, never came at all. On a per-capita basis, Italy’s death toll of more than 35,154 comes to about 600 per 1 million people, as does Sweden’s 5,743. Still, in the current post-peak phase, with Italy gradually reopening its economy and Sweden maintaining its policy, both countries seem to have found their stride in living with the virus. There’s no quick fix or perfect template for Covid-19, and everyone makes mistakes. Italy’s closure of schools came with a huge cost that brought little benefit, while Sweden’s botched handling of care homes for the elderly probably led to deaths that could have been avoided. But as we move into a new phase of this pandemic the two countries are clearly worth watching.

Are you thinking of diversifying on the farm?!

Yes, some people pay crazy prices for a 10 year old whisky (that costs today in the new botteling the same as before maybe about 30€). Sometimes like you say because of novelty or as collectors interest. But sometimes the Whisky in the old botteling had another (maybe better taste) than the new botteling. (this can happen because the quality can change over the years). I and also other people experienced that with the Johnnie Walker Green Label. Its still a good whisky but the older botteling tasted better. I think the reason why the blends are selling better is simple: They are cheaper and get more advertised. I never saw a singlemalt advertise on the TV here in Germany ( i dont know how it is in other countries).

Great question Also to rub salt in the wound we have one of the chiefs of Thai tourism coming out with lets let the Chinese back in. https://pattayaone.news/tourism-chief-says-it-is-time-to-let-the-chinese-back-in/

so who is it ?please

A second lockdown has been imposed in Manila and the surrounding provinces as surge in coronavirus cases threatens to overwhelm the struggling health service. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-53646149

Yes she is. She's a right wing nut job who has been banned from facebook and twitter for her 'hateful' content. I wouldn't put her up as an authority on anything.

Always believe a ladyboy forum , no one on these type of forums would ever say anything that wasn't true .

Sure, infectious diseases experts state with certainty that covid-19 evolved through natural processes. But that guy on the ladyboy site says it's a Chinese bioweapon. WHO DO I BELIEVE?!?!?

Evidence is SOOO 20th century. It's 2020, where feelings=facts.

While you're pondering the above - here's an easy one with pic pinched from today's Guardian Art Quiz. Name the song !

Lady this is a VIRUS. We have no cure. Our only way to contain it is to stop giving it to each other. Not that it will change her mind but she should read this: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/12/us/30-year-old-covid-party-death.html A 30-year-old man who believed the coronavirus was a hoax and attended a “Covid party” died after being infected with the virus, according to the chief medical officer at a Texas hospital. The official, Dr. Jane Appleby of Methodist Hospital in San Antonio, said the man died after deliberately attending a gathering with an infected person to test whether the coronavirus was real. In her statements to news organizations, Dr. Appleby said the man had told his nurse that he attended a Covid party. Just before he died, she said the patient told his nurse: “I think I made a mistake. I thought this was a hoax, but it’s not.” COVID is very real. I personally know 3 people who have died of it, 1 of it was a guy some of you might know if you met him in patts.. frequenter of lb scene but avoided forums like the plague named Mark.. 48 years old.. no pre existing conditions.. met him this february as my fav lb and his fav lb are friends so sometimes we'd get together. He was an investment banker. He's gone from COVID in less than a week. And obviously she's a lunatic who only cares about fanning the flames.

Peer-reviewed medical journal: "Our analyses clearly show that SARS-CoV-2 is not a laboratory construct or a purposefully manipulated virus."

I would guess some people would buy it just for the novelty value. I do have a Scotch question though. Scotch connoisseurs rave about single malts but the top sellers are blends. Why is that?

Could not agree with you more. What is really incredulous is the way the CCP talk retaliation and deliver sanctions to Australia when Australia called for a enquiry on How this Virus erupted, talk also about retaliation on the UK when we reversed our decision on Huawei and 5G yet there doesn't seem to be any talk on retaliation on the CCP for unleashing this on us.