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Em said TJs is reopening in July but didn’t give a specific date, but apparently it has been sorta open-ish for the past few weeks.

Plus the rate is as bad as ever .

Bumbar will probably be Friday. They are now starting to put in place the measures to comply with the guidelines, so in true fashion will no doubt not have that done in time for the official re-opening date.

I think New Bar will.

Mt thoughts but I'm certainly not an in the know real estate guy: Perhaps the rental market is bottoming. But my guess is that there is a way to go before sales prices bottom. Motivated sellers are getting out now but I think many owners figure they'll ride things out until 2022. I don't think farangs are coming back for quite awhile. Who is going to buy a non-refundable ticket if a Covid test is required 3 days before the flight? What two week millionaire is coming back if there is a rule that mandates a 14 day quarantine if even one person on a plane tests positive? Perhaps there'll be a travel bubble for Aussies and Kiwis but I don't think tourists from Europe or North America are getting into the LOS anytime soon. I sense the Pattaya real estate market is just not functioning right now. It's not liquid. There are hardly any buyers and tens of thousands of sellers. What's the best case scenario for 2022? I'd say best case is 80% of the farang that were here in 2019. But even if that best case comes to fruition 2019 Pattaya was vastly overbuilt.

The only reason you'd want to go there now honestly is if you're retiring right now and want to buy property because there are bargains to be had as 1/2 of pattaya is for sale. I wouldn't buy a bar though as when I went last year.. You couldn't fill the Emptyhad with all the mongers in Patts.

That is certainly another reason not to bother amogo

It seems that Hunny Bunny Bar has been sold

Nirun has never been that bad, quite the little community in fact. I looked round a studio once (about 10yrs ago) and it was renting for 3.5k. Small though and too many Thai neighbours. Many of my friends bought condos back when they were cheaper, but buying anything through the registered company route is very dubious - it's simply a loophole and one that they may decide to close at anytime. Where I used to stay, in the Centre Condo at South Pattaya, a guy I know had bought 55 in all just to rent out. Bumped into him last year and he has sold everyone of them since, so clearly the market for them has crashed with the shear glut of them. Personally I would never buy anything that I couldn't afford to abandon - all visas are issued at the discretion of a senior immigration officer, a double edged sword if you like, because if they don't like the look of your face then you won't be living there much longer! Jomtien does look a better, quieter example of where to stay though I have considered the Darkside mostly due to a couple of KiT's youtube clips (below). It's an area I've never explored (at all) but some seem to like it and I need to know why!

So glad I booked a 'Jolly' yesterday for Benidorm this August, I can't be arsed with Pattaya for the foreseeable with all the goings on there at the moment tbh.

NokScoot is liquidating. 49% was available for 1 Baht. I should have bought it. Could have turned it into Gender Bender Airways offering direct flights from U-Tapao to Clark. Design edgy uniforms, perhaps shorts and suspenders, for the Flipper Femboy and Thai Twink crew.

Our free food handout today (25.06.2020) for the people in need affected by the corona crisis. The Lady´s worked again very hard. This will maybe our last handout. The girls did a great job :

Love Thread F**king a Rom Thread Just to say to all you weird and wonderful folk after 12 weeks of lock down in Wales. I am finally crawling up the walls, still only allowed to drive 5 miles. Have not put anything on forum as nothing has changed But I am alive which is good I am pleased you old ones like blind boy grunt, stoolpusher and likes are all still alive Just had a look at some of the early post on the other forum about Covid - they make fine reading as most of what the members sayabout only a flu no big problem - noting is stopping them from seeing a bar with ladyboys etc.etc. - well i TOLD YOU So. The Positive is I got a loan from Bank on Bounce Back which i would never have got before the virus My Ebay is doing better than before I have saved stacks on hotels, planes and Thai ladyboys Cannot see myself on route to Thailand until a vaccine or summer ; that is if the General will let scumbag farangs like me back into the country Cannot belive I am replying to a thread by Rom - I really am sinking to the bottom and loosing it