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some place in China are getting back to business as the Americans have been measuring the pollution and heat emination from office buildings and its back to normal in a lot of places. Some provinces will be more relaxed than others. The actual figures though are bound to massaged to a degree ....i agree I have some business in Ningbo and Shanghai and they are doing ok right now ... they are shipping orders

China could end up being a pariah state when this all washes through according to some press reports. The initial cover up is what led to this situation.

What a contrast to today for all of us including Ammy. This is one she sent me from her home. Having a hard time.

Ah the memories!. I could use it now.

Coronavirus Porn Is Going Viral on Pornhub In a video titled "Bodycam Footage (CDC Agent) Investigates Deserted Wuhan," you're watching from the first-person point of view of "Jerry," a healthcare worker in a hazmat suit, stumbling around in the dark remnants of a medical facility. He breathes hard and his heart pounds, and a voice coming from his walkie talkie tries and fails to get him to respond. There's a sudden, brief scuffle, and a woman in a hospital gown jumps him, pulls his erect penis from a hole in his clean suit, and wordlessly fucks him. https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/xgq5ew/coronavirus-porn-going-viral-pornhub-xhamster

Unfortunately possibly infected stuff is also a problem in civilized nations. Reportedly 180,000 pounds of African "bush meat" is smuggled into the US in a year. A possible source of all kind of bad things including ebola. And we can't even stop it in the US. Do a web search for African bush meat and pick the news source of you choice.

Ya their numbers are total bullshit, not even close to being truthful or accurate

sorry .. i agree with you as well.. what i was mentioning that in some UK Press they were concentrating in the China cover up... of the course the wet markets is where this all started and i agree it should be stamped out for good

...and something needs to be done, and someone might needs to be accountable for the worst crisis we've seen so far in our lives. The cover-up in the beginning of covid-19 is just as bad. I don't trust the numbers coming out from China now. Its not like their actions before made them more trustworthy.

Yes it is: Among the many viruses human beings have been subject to, most viruses such as SARS and covid-19 i have originated from China, or more specifically, Chinese wet markets. Chinese wet markets are open shops set up on the street where people can buy animals of various kinds to cook and eat. Most of these animals are slaughtered on the spot, further increasing the risk that is presented to humans of catching a virus that the animal has. In these markets, cages are stacked on top of one another and animals of various kinds, including wildlife, live in small, confined spaces. The animals in the bottom of the cage stack are doused with various liquids from animals that are stacked above them, including urine and feces. These animals are nonetheless still eaten by the population. Most deadly outbreaks have been traced back to these markets, including the recent coronavirus, which has claimed thousands of lives in the last few weeks. At every occasion of an outbreak, the government closes these markets, only to open them up again a mere few weeks later. Let us fight the inhumanity the government presents to animals, and the risk they present to the rest of the world and ask the United Nations to put an end to these markets once and for all. https://www.change.org/p/ban-ki-moon-secretary-general-of-the-united-nations-ban-wet-markets-in-china?recruiter=183957786&utm_source=share_petition&utm_medium=facebook&utm_campaign=psf_combo_share_initial&recruited_by_id=f026670d-e4cf-4098-9534-5b73fa9fb92c&utm_content=mit-20730210-10%3Av1

Its not the wet markets .. its the cover up about the discovery of the novel virus strain... they could have jumped on this 4 weeks earlier ... remember the whistle blower who died I think Covid has now being called SARS 2 in the UN,

Must be something in the water in Cambodia as Ammy, along with Lily and Nancy are all from there.

Steady Eddie gets back home to Blighty

It's a work of art, a masterpiece!

When Pattaya gets back into gear again, I am heading to this hairdresser!

Yes, but she will probably stay there now until things pick up in Jomtien again. A pic of Teya to remind us of her

Kris Kristofferson is my favourite singer, and that's my favourite song. I've got all his albums. I saw him live on his 60th birthday about 22 years ago. He usually does a UK tour every summer. Last year one gig was in Kenwood House grounds in Hampstead Heath. I didn't want to spend £80 to sit on the ground on a cool June evening, and thought I would be able to hear the concert from outside the grounds but couldn't. If he comes over this year and does an indoor London gig I will try to get a ticket. But he is getting on (though not as old as bbg) and reportedly losing his memory (like bbg).

I'm the existentialist. Sunny says that's old hat and favours a more robust combination of dialectic materialism and post structuralism. We argue about that .

All across Thailand this evening at 8 pm for 5 minutes as a show of appreciation and respect for what the medical profession there are doing is by going out on your balcony or doorway and hand clap .

They don't spend as much as their punters ! 55555

A 6% reduction in GDP could mean that the deaths caused by a lockdown maybe worse or equal to that caused by a depression that follows.....It may sound Trumpian but this model probably has some legs. An "inconvenient" model perhaps. The exit strategy is the most important thing right now. Are people going accept with being couped up for months on end .... probably not ... testing seems the only way out now ..in the millions and million

They really have to stop eating bats and snakes.

No, Sunny's are bigger than 300's,more like 450's. Oh shit, I see you said 300 bc!.

I'd still smash it!!!!

Me too, I have no love for the fookin pigs.

He didn't say it was OK he said that is the way it is.

And therefor its ok? I disagree with you.

https://off-guardian.org/2020/03/28/the-propaganda-of-terror-and-fear-a-lesson-from-recent-history/?__cf_chl_jschl_tk__=cbb226445e18322693c52c887e3cd525e4766906-1585499778-0-AXG-LVVvcMBrRPHpZDx1WI1jrlvcDsCcfFwqW5gD4VrKEwW-HPIWrp_Hz_TRYPP9z18okB5jRylD513uST4HBg5MjlWzqxREGNWCappxxgplB4Tb8cinWGCIWRdZK9xoRUsjw1bdRm2QvLgDQKCCXj2PTYd4g4bce88JO5ESBDflA82NiyEQU7KsmNaTy-TS_sMA9vFd_h7sYbLfnaF3sUjAIK9zY6Q7bGKj8-buDrLYLe-kiJT4C6A9Hx-ekuPE4ZijJYyN3r1pXUIRWlhldFekOXPm_BLz-F4BD9vu-GgoO-XrUjcVl_82jTrGYzmEMYWFmNXbpG_azCggk-qq0c76iybZrMjogzkpUG9XI4-MhR1csFC8hcbTYFcLJObLRw The Propaganda of Terror and Fear: A Lesson from Recent History Dr Piers Robinson, Co-Director Organisation for Propaganda Studies The ongoing and unfolding reactions to the Corona Virus look set to have wide-ranging and long-lasting effect on politics, society and economics. The drive to close down all activities is extraordinary as are the measures being promoted to isolate people from each other. The deep-rooted fear of contagious disease, hardwired into the collective consciousness by historical events such as the ‘Black/Bubonic Plague’ and maintained through popular culture (e.g. the Hollywood movies Outbreak and Contagion), means that people are without question highly susceptible to accepting extreme emergency measures whether or not such measures are rational or justified. The New York Times called for America to be put on a war footing in order to deal with Corona whilst former Army General Stanley McChrystal has been invoking his 9/11 experience in order to prescribe lessons for today’s leaders. At the same time, political actors are fully aware that these conditions of fear and panic provide a critical opportunity that can be exploited in order to pursue political, economic and societal objectives. It is very likely, however, that the dangers posed by the potential exploitation of Corona for broader political, economic and societal objectives latter far outweigh the immediate threat to life and health from the virus. A lesson from recent history is instructive here. 9/11 AND THE GLOBAL ‘WAR ON TERROR’ The events of September 11 2001 represent a key moment in contemporary history. The destruction of three skyscrapers in New York after the impact of two airliners and an attack on the Pentagon, killing around 3000 civilians, shocked both American and global publics. The horror of seeing aircraft being flown into buildings, followed by the total destruction of three high rise buildings within a matter of seconds, and the spectre of a shadowy band of Islamic fundamentalists (Al Qaeda) having pulled off such devastating attacks, gripped the imagination of many in the Western world. It was in this climate of paranoia and fear that extraordinary policies were implemented. The USA Patriot Act led to significant civil liberty restrictions whilst the mass surveillance of the digital environment became normalized. In the United States torture was authorized in the name of preventing terrorism whilst the Guantanamo Bay facility in Cuba became a site in which accused individuals have been held without any adequate legal protection or due process. Remarkably, the individual accused of leading the alleged 9/11 plot, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who ‘confessed’ to CIA interrogators after being ‘waterboarded’ 183 times, has recently received his trial date, set for January 11 2021 and 20 years after 9/11. Civil liberty restrictions, mass surveillance and torture were only a sub-strand of the major war-fighting-policy that was enabled by 9/11. Presented at the time as America’s ‘New Pearl Harbour’, 9/11 provided the conditions for a series of major regime-change wars which persist until today. Critically, these wars have not been primarily about combatting ‘Islamic fundamentalist terrorism’/Al Qaeda, but rather attacking ‘enemy’ states. Indeed, the evidence that the 9/11 event and the alleged threat of ‘Islamic fundamentalist’ was then exploited in order to pursue a geo-politically motivated set of regime-change wars which had little connection to the purported Al Qaeda threat is well established. Former Supreme Allied Commander of NATO, Wesley Clark, famously went public in 2006/7 stating that immediately after 9/11 he had been informed that the US was intending to attack seven countries within five years including Iraq, Syria, Lebanon, Somalia, Sudan and Iran. Clark stated: Clark’s claims have recently been corroborated by retired Colonel Lawrence Wilkerson (chief of staff to Colin Powell and Iraq War planner) who stated that he had actually seen the same plans Clark was referring to many months prior to 9/11: Documentary evidence for these claims has come by way of the UK Chilcot Inquiry into the 2003 Iraq War. For example, a report quoted a British embassy cable, dated 15 September 2001, explained that ‘[t]he “regime-change hawks” in Washington are arguing that a coalition put together for one purpose [against international terrorism] could be used to clear up other problems in the region.’ Another document released by Chilcot shows British Prime Minister Tony Blair and US President George Bush discussing phases one and two of the ‘war on terror’ and when to hit particular countries. Blair writes: The regime-change wars that have flowed directly and indirectly from 9/11 continue to this day. War and conflict continues in Afghanistan and Iraq whilst the nine-year-long war in Syria has borne witness to extensive and illegal policies pursued by Western governments including the funding and arming of extremist groups coupled with support for groups actually aligned with Al Qaeda. Iran continues to be subjected to US hybrid warfare tactics including sanctions and covert operations whilst the threat of military action is very clear and present. The human cost of these wars, built upon the ruthless exploitation of public fear of terrorism in order to pursue multiple ‘regime-change’ wars, has been huge. According to the Brown University ‘Costs of War Project’, the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq have killed a combined 480,000 to 507,000 civilians, coalition military members, and foreign fighters, with an untold number having been maimed and disfigured. IPPNW estimated that the first ten years of the ‘war on terror’ in Afghanistan, Iraq and Pakistan killed 1.3 million people. Since 2011, in Syria alone, over 400,000 people have died as a result of war. The numbers of people displaced as a result of these conflicts are also extremely high; wars in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, and Syria have wrought a combined 9.39 million refugees, 10.78 million internally displaced peoples, and 830,000 asylum seekers. In addition, there are persisting and very serious concerns with respect to the possible involvement of state actors with the event of 9/11. Recent and critical developments regarding the events of 9/11 include the publication this week of the University of Alaska study of the WTC7 Collapse which confirms that the official US government investigation was wrong if not plain fraudulent. Other important developments include publication last year of the 9/11 Consensus Panel evidence and increasing scrutiny of the official narrative from mainstream academics. Overall, the 9/11 global ‘war on terror’ is increasingly coming to be understood particularly across the world as, first and foremost, a remarkable propaganda campaign designed to enable violent conflict in the international system and with its effects and objectives being far wider and deeper than had been suggested by official narratives regarding the need to combat Al Qaeda. CORONA VIRUS: A NEW 9/11? The lesson of 9/11 is that major events can become what scholar Peter Dale Scott describes as deep events which are exploited by political actors in order to precipitate and manage major political, economic and social shifts. 9/11 became, in effect, the deep event that enabled 20 years of unfettered Western warfare abroad and severe civil liberty restrictions and extensive surveillance at home. At the time of 9/11 many people in the West were terrified of terrorism. Public opposition to the invasion of Afghanistan (the first regime war to flow within months of 9/11) was almost impossible without being accused of being reckless in the ‘fight against terrorism’ or of being an ‘Al Qaeda’ sympathizer. Muslims throughout the West were widely despised. US President George Bush declared that ‘you are either with us or against us’. The parallels with what is happening today are obvious. Is the Corona Virus a new 9/11, a new deep event? We cannot yet be sure, as of this writing. Perhaps the current strategy of suspending basic liberties will work to effectively eliminate all threats posed by the virus. Governments will then restore the civil liberties currently being suspended and all will fairly quickly return to the way things were before. Perhaps the economy will confidently weather the fallout from the ‘lockdowns’ and everything will return to business as usual. And perhaps a sober ‘lessons learned’ review will lead to public health officials developing reasonable and balanced plans, such as developing sufficient capacity for rapid testing and tracing, which can be deployed the next time a sufficiently dangerous virus starts to spread thus avoiding terrifying publics and implementing draconian measures that inflict significant damage to the social and economic fabric of society. Or perhaps not. It may be that, as British journalist Peter Hitchens has been warning, the loss of liberty and basic rights will continue indefinitely as governments greedily hold on to their increased powers of control over their citizenry. Similarly, Italian journalist Stefania Maurizi has warned about the risks in Italy of state authorities, hostile to open societies and the political left, exploiting Corona in order to increase their control. An obvious concern here is whether there will be a permanent impact on mass gatherings and protests. James Corbett warns of a permanent state of ‘medical martial law’ and there is certainly the very real possibility of the normalization of government-imposed quarantine and other freedom of movement restrictions. Margaret Kimberley of the US-based Black Agenda Report warns that Corona may be used as a way of covering up both economic crisis and collapse. She notes that the Federal Reserve ‘recently threw Wall Street a $1.5 trillion lifeline which only kicked the can down the road. The can has been kicked ever since the Great Recession of 2008’. The likely destruction of small businesses might allow for ever greater corporate choke-hold on the economy with more people forced into the corporate workforce. There is certainly the danger that Corona will be exploited in order to distract from severe economic problems whilst also enabling the pursuit of new economic strategies which worsen rather than mitigate the social inequalities that already tarnish Western countries. And, of course those actors behind the regime-change wars that flowed from 9/11 may use the Corona Virus to increase pressure on the countries they have been targeting for the last 20 years and those they wish to target in the future. Already we have seen the regime-change advocate John Bolton blaming China for the Corona Virus whilst the New York Times reported that US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and national security adviser Robert C. O’Brien were ‘arguing that tough action while Iran’s leaders were battling the corona virus ravaging the country could finally push then into direct negotiations’. ABC news report that, despite the Corona Virus, US and UAE troops have held a major military exercise ‘that saw forces seize a sprawling model Mideast city’. It is also worth nothing here the recent US assassination of Iranian General Solemeni and the on-going proxy battles between US forces and Iranian-backed groups in Iraq. The possibility of Corona being exploited in order to further the regime change wars we have seen over the last 20 years is extremely likely and it would be naïve in the extreme to think otherwise. Whatever the Corona event may or may not be, the fundamental lesson of the last 20 years is that governments can and do exploit, even manipulate, events in order to pursue political, social, military and economic objectives. Fearful populations are frequently irrational ones, vulnerable and malleable. Now is not the time for deference to authority and reluctance to speak out. It is time for publics to get informed, think calmly and rationally, and to robustly scrutinize and challenge what their governments are doing. The dangers of failing to do this likely far surpass the immediate threat posed by the Corona Virus.

The Grim Reaper will come and ask seniors to pay for the bill. The longer the party, the more salted the bill. Here, many people believed they weren't taking too much risks breaking governmental advises. This week, the Pharmacy placarded "Sick people must stay in the street. They will be served outside". Yesterday, I heard ambulances twice. Everyone is free not to respect discipline at war but bullets will catch those who played too much.

Let's hope they don't hike the price up now then eh PD

I think many of us can just dream of the day when we will get back at this stage Jimmy. I doubt many, if any, will be back in the next 6 months or so.

Sunny might go into meltdown too!

Nice one Tel

I don't think this is inappropriate as the bar has closed... Sunny's TF - https://www.thaifriendly.com/Sunnt Told me she "some day" picks up the occasional customer from it. My impression is she's just managing to keep her head above water. Tough times for the girls indeed...

Had no idea where to put this. But sort of reminds me of when I first saw a ladyboy on the Robin Bird show.

5000 baht ? back in my day most high end pussy and top Ladyboys got that for one night... my self my price was free . but I only paid tops 2000 lt.

Yeah me and my fav ladyboy were talking. She was showing me videos of people in Thailand at home in isaan and uploading dancing/ singing together at Morlams yesterday. I told her.. in 2 weeks 1/2 the people there could have covid 19 because they're supposed to be under quarantine. And also if you've seen the videos of how busy Morchit has been/ always is.. its a massive hub for spreading covid-19. The numbers are vastly underrated but the people of Thailand tend to not live very long anyways. 60 is considered an old age in isaan. So it may infect them but they won't have the casualty rate of say Italy or Japan or even the USA.

Testing and restricting foreigners coming in? That wasn't the case, was it. Quite the opposite. Again, I saw the numbers of chinese people in December and January and by then the virus was raging, we just didn't know. I don't think Thailands numbers are correct, and don't even want to to think about what India has coming. He also dismiss herd immunity which is something inevitable. Its just a matter of how soon we want herd immunity to let the healthcare system cope. Who knows, Bill does I guess, I sure as hell don't. We're all guessing at this point, so is the Korean doctor in rxpharms clip to some extent. Doctors in the west dismiss facemasks. I do wear gloves in supermarket now.

Pics of Sunny from her fb page

How dare you question the dominant FEAR NARRATIVE!? You, sir are a thought criminal and clearly in need of quarantine, stat! I agree, man. I think we’re being scammed and royally fucked with. I am not saying there is no virus, or that the virus is a complete fabrication. But I am saying, I think think this thing is being blown out of proportion to deliberately ratchet up the hysteria. Fear keeps people compliant and unquestioning. This serves various elite agendas. Mostly it distracts from the giant money grab going on in the form of “bail outs.” This thing is also a convenient pretext for total police state clampdown on the people. You think them authoritarian pig bastards are gonna wanna give up their new powers after this thing has subsided?